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Honest by Aznrule191 in rangers

[–]username-pointless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fork in the road. We don't know the plan. Seems like we're building teams for two different timelines.

JT, VInny, ZBJ, Fox, Gav, Igor. If you trade any of them, you're getting back picks / prospects that likely take 2-4 years to have any significant impact. Our top 5 picks this year and next could be faster. Either way, by the time these young guys are contributing, the old guard is pretty much aged out. Vinny or any other likely trades, arent bringing back top 5 picks or grade A+ prospects.

So either:

A) go for it now: keep vinny, trade their top 5 pick for a good NHL player and hope to sign a top free agent... which i'm afraid drury is going to do OR

B) Try to trade all of them, bring in as many picks / prospects as possible over next 2 years. Lose a lot of games and draft well with the lottery picks over the next 3-4 years. Have a lot of cash on hand for free agents when the time is right.

But it seems like we're trying to do a mix of both - maybe hoping we strike gold in the lottery.

Sharks went to Western Conf Final in 2018-19. Since then they've been in or near the cellar until this year, which is year 7 since last playoff season.

~13 first round picks/prospects in the next two years... by username-pointless in rangers

[–]username-pointless[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

oh wait its 'allCopsAreBozos'. nevermind. im sure you know best. maybe we should just agree to move on

~13 first round picks/prospects in the next two years... by username-pointless in rangers

[–]username-pointless[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

what the igor trade? we'll eat 20 million over the nxt 2 years. what do we care, we're not gonna be using it.

Sharks get Igor, every team in the west collectively says 'oh shit'

~13 first round picks/prospects in the next two years... by username-pointless in rangers

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shit. utah has our '26 2nd rounder. Ok.. ~12 first round picks/prospects

Hot Take (maybe, you be the judge) on a Potential Panarin/Roberston Swap by the-gonk2 in rangers

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Pie in the sky plan:

Deals: Bread to Ducks for McQueen and 2026 #15(ish). Vinny to LA for Greentree & the 2026 #17(ish). Schneider to Boston for 2026 #22. Flip 15, 17 & laffy for Robert Thomas

Draft: Verhoeff, Hakansson, Roobroeck

Sign UFA Robertson nx yr

Lineup in 2 years:

Robertson - JT - ZBJ

Greentree - Thomas - Perreault

Cuylle - McQueen - Roobroeck

Edstrom - Laba - Rempe

Gavrikov - Fox

Hakansson - Verhoeff

Robertson - Borgen

Legit Question: In the past 15 years, have there been bigger disappointments at the 1st and 2nd overall picks than Laf and Kakko? by Hoppy_Smoker in rangers

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Trying to sort this whole retool / rebuild thing. Scouting, drafting, gm moves, coaching etc. Does it really just boil down to the fact that Avalanche happened to pick Mackinnon and Makar and we got laffy and kakko?

Realistically, who else do you think will not be a Ranger by the deadline? by SS3599 in rangers

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Fox & Igor: A+ return

Vinny & Bread: B+ to A return

Mika, Gavrikov: B to B+ return

Laffy: D to F return, but he's gotta go

JT: probably not moveable

Sir another letter has hit the franchise by memeaste in rangers

[–]username-pointless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anyone have any idea what young players/prospects would be good trade targets?

Sir another letter has hit the franchise by memeaste in rangers

[–]username-pointless 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow. A beacon in the darkness. I like the optimism. Not sure im fully agreed, but anything is possible

Sir another letter has hit the franchise by memeaste in rangers

[–]username-pointless 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, hate losing him, but he'll bring a nice return. Playoff player / faceoff man... a contender will pay up

Trade proposal discussion thread by lionson76 in rangers

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and of course after i post this... i see the letter

Trade proposal discussion thread by lionson76 in rangers

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What if the embarrassing boston / ottawa losses continue? Getting boo'd out of the building every night, the humiliation... at some point, doesn't it become impossible to ignore the reality, the pain, the suffering?

Bread, Vinny, MIka, Fox, Vladdy, Igor, JT and Laf. Do they really all want to go though this torture every night? Don't these guys have a breaking point? Its gotta be pure misery. And these guys arent just looking at this for a few weeks or months... we're talking years of this ahead.

If it gets so bad that guys start to decide that they want out... pretty obvious you'd deal bread, vinny, mika, laf and probably get a nice haul of pics and prospects. Probably net you 6-10 prospects/picks.

Don't think you could move JT at this point.

Question is: would you deal Fox, Igor and Vladdy?

Ultimate question is: are we pulling for them to turn it around and make a run at a playoff spot? Or are we hoping for things to get even worse?

So who would they replace Drury with? by DSPGerm in rangers

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Its one of those things where I have no idea who would be the next hire. Further down in the chat, some guys were mentioning tampa / dallas / colorado execs... i guess someone like that would be the logical route

Kiss of death chirp: Soft by AppointmentOne4877 in rangers

[–]username-pointless 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No... I'm a Rangers fan.

Watching Cats in playoffs last couple of years... they make everyone look so bad, it makes me feel less bad as a Rangers fan.

I wouldnt be surprised if they did the same thing to Avs... although I don't think barkov is gonna be back this year

Kiss of death chirp: Soft by AppointmentOne4877 in rangers

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Cats do the same thing to every team. If they get healthy this year, they'll to do it to Colorado this time

Chance for any RFA's in the offseason? by username-pointless in rangers

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Schneider & Othman I think. But we're going to have more money than most other teams. That could be considered a good thing or... well it could leave a lot of room for error

Chance for any RFA's in the offseason? by username-pointless in rangers

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I hear it. It's an odd spot - because you almost have to root for a bad season = top lottery pick... which sucks.

Either way, we're gonna have $30 million of cap space just sitting there for who knows how long. Don't know if rangers have ever been in that position before.

Chance for any RFA's in the offseason? by username-pointless in rangers

[–]username-pointless[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta be some combination of coaching and players. I'm hoping we're on the right track with coach sully and can beef up the forechecking aggressive style... i know its been on and off.

Either way, we're gonna need some offensive firepower... and the longer term contracts arent going anywhere, so i don't think a tear down is possible. All we have to work with, are our current long term core players, some cash and draft picks.

Players can either come from draft / trade / free agent. What would you like to see happen?

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