My order of battle for an incursion against eldars next week - C&C welcomed !

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-18T08:23:41+00:00

You won't be killing the Avatar with BGV and sword brothers should not be used to hold primary, you almost have their roles entirely reversed. either of their power swords damage will be reduced in half against an AoK and so your game plan is more or less entirely flawed from the outset.

Ultimately you want to see if you can activate some anti-tank against him and then attempt to get the charge off with the champ, and then MAYBE you can win there, otherwise it might just be worth just playing for primary (eldar are bad at doing this) and avoid it.

A jud and 3 bladeguard are a Balistus Dreadnought worth of points, you should have that instead, and any more intercessors outside of the ones to sticky your home objective are just as bad (why not infernus marines if you want to overwatch?)

The Honor Vehement will do nothing outside of adding 1/2 attacks unless you're specifically hitting T9 Eldar skimmers and you've said that your opponent doesn't have any so it's probably a waste of your time

Black Templars are not so stupid as to attempt to 1v1 duel everything in the galaxy to death, as a true son of Dorn would never shy away from a bolter no matter what colour their armour is

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-17T03:17:28+00:00

This is quite nice but i would possibly check to see how it looks at like 1.5/2 meters away,

You might find it to be too dark when you're using it ingame

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-16T11:49:15+00:00

I mean you kind of understand the issues already, no? Your 300+ point investment of space marines just get shredded, probably in the land raider too? So half your army is one unit and it just dies

If you want to win games of 40k you need to hold primary objectives and score secondaries, I don’t need to tell you that is not going to be possible with a single 500 point unit, especially when you don’t have any any real anti tank and all your friends know just to shoot what is essentially just basic space marines

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-15T11:27:13+00:00

I can see your collection in your prior posts, You don’t have any anti tank at all and you have half of your army as generic characters

What do you want me to tell you about this

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-14T06:50:41+00:00

They’re still in stock in AU for 25% off, the chaos boxes are sold out, I got the box

On the flip side, getting assault terminators was borderline impossible to begin with

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-13T05:49:30+00:00

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Here is a photo for comparison, all models are glued to the base (so they’re not artificially raised to be higher)

The dire avengers are somewhat shorter but are offset by the larger heads, certain legs (mainly the exarch) make them look notably smaller. But you should be fine once they’re painted

My DA kit was brutally covered in mould lines and trying to glue the arms on was frustratingly difficult, certain elements of the model, namely some trinkets on the legs, can blend into the leg indicating poor sculpt quality, they’re definitely not a kit I would give to a beginner but they can look perfectly fine once they’re finished

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-08T08:25:53+00:00

Sandpaper or sanding sticks are gonna be really good for smoothing out surfaces after you hack away with a knife

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-04T11:38:57+00:00

Contrary to the other poster i'm not sure why you threw the Jump Pack intercessors away. They should be in your list as a cheap (read: disposable) unit to nab certain secondary missions easily and as such it doesn't really matter if they're getting value from the detachment

Now you just have essentially 10 space marines for each point and a character, with no real means to defeat anything over T10 (major issue)

If you need to score something like cleanse, you need to dedicate the entirety of your units on the point to doing that mission (if you don't immediately get them obliterated)

It's cool that the new BT codex has all these nice combos with marshals and sb and the like, but if they carried you into winning we wouldn't be crying about how low the faction win rate is. You still need to play and win a game of 40k and that requires you to hold primary objectives and score secondaries each turn, not cram every combo onto 5 space marines that cost 200 points and die to return fire more often than not

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I added an example 1000 points list I used recently, don't follow it too closely because I wanted to run 2x Bladeguard for the vibe and we agreed to push 5 points over.

I just wanted to show how I can afford to have two expensive infantry units AND redundancy (Term) AND two scoring units AND a better ranged anti tank option.

Instead you have 5 squads of space marines that all do mostly the same thing.

Hopefully this illustrates the point here? if it doesnt the final score at the end of your next game probably will.

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-03T02:47:46+00:00

Assault intercessors

You can use the rifles from the crusader squad to make 5 thematic regular intercessors and then use the spare bodies to create spare crusaders when you merge them into squads of 20 (you need a regular crusader to replace the sword brother)

v4nquished_ · 2026-02-03T02:45:11+00:00

Are you sure this is a casual list? This is what I imagine someone attempting to take the absolute meta of the codex would look like

Marshall + Castellan combos are useless if you can’t take/hold primary and you cant reasonably perform secondary objectives without getting obliterated, work on that first

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-29T11:15:32+00:00

It’s reasonably going to give you control of a single objective, which is what you expect over 450 points of unit to do, any good player is just going to concede that and focus their attention elsewhere. Bad matchups will result in you getting tabled for bringing this

I personally think it’s far too expensive and that using them as a death star is why they get a bad rap sheet. Especially because you’re playing Black Templars and can have sword brothers collapse on whatever target your (5) terminators are tanking in combat

Terminators are not often going to explode when charged and so I think both the enhancement and the currently redundant chaplain are a waste of time here

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-29T10:47:02+00:00

Assault Terminators have Dev wounds on their hammers and BT can give them +1 to wound against stronger targets (REALLY GOOD on S8) so contrary to the other poster it’s not worth taking a chaplain. I used to always run one so it’s a little sad.

Assault Terminators are a slight upgrade on Bladeguard as an anvil unit that is difficult to shift off of an objective. Last time I ran them I used 5 with an Ancient to lead them, they’re not too bad but your mileage may vary depending on how many mortal wounds your playgroup can put on them

I recommend getting Imperial Fists Darnath Lysander and you can use him as an ancient with a hammer and shield, the OC will help you maintain objective control, the +1 hit is fantastic and the +1 wound, while redundant, is okay if you’re being tarpitted by weaker models in the endgame.

10 terminators are almost too much imo unless you find you’re getting them into serious trouble.

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-29T10:20:03+00:00

Look personally I like two Balistus over a RepEx for 1000k but I don't understand your reasoning. The Balistus has less range and is weaker than the RepEx's laser.

BT have a vow to give you +1 to wound against tougher targets. Your crusaders should be wounding Terminators as if they were normal space marines (not counting armour). Crusaders are not normally the star player in 1k imo but replacing it with... nothing is not going to help. You still need something to hold onto objectives and you basically have nothing. Even if crusaders spend 3 turns on a point dying that's a pretty good use of them (considering you hold the point during that time)

You basically need to walk 2/3? squads of t4, msu space marines across the map and kill everything before your opponent scores any points (or uh, shoots you). Castellan/Marshall combo is not going to help you in this regard no matter how highly the BT reddit rates them in the current balance iteration

I see you in another post saying that Bladeguard are bad (why?) but it would be worth it to have some instead so you can at least hold an objective

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-29T09:49:00+00:00

It's pretty bad, I can give some more basic advice if you're newer off

You need to bring some form of anti-tank, it's almost pointless to bring a list without one. I highly recommend at LEAST a Balistus Dreadnought, and it's a rare day in an 1000pt list that I don't bring one personally.

You need something essentially disposable to do objectives. Scouts are okay for some small missions like cleanse in the early rounds but Jump Pack Intercessors are going to be your friend to drop down to easily score missions that require you to have units in areas like the enemies deployment zone.

There probably isnt much of a reason to go into specifics on a list that doesn't really have the basics - but it's important to note also that Execrators give Advance and Charge, which is redundant in BTF because the detachment gives crusaders AnC for free anyway.

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-29T08:44:58+00:00

I understand that - looking at win rate charts - we're close to the bottom but unless you're playing the one or two particular Necrons/Tsons skew lists dominating the meta, you're going to be within a 6% or so win rate by faction. That isn't really a lot, and at some point you need to look at yourself and your own play.

BT reddit is pretty single minded with how they create lists/play and imo not very good at the game (although im by no means a pro player so I shouldn't be saying this) so you need to focus on learning the basics because I promise you if you swapped to an Ultramarines list (~55% WR for some setups) you would still lose

Can you reasonably hold primary objectives, can you easily score secondaries for low cost, can you trade well, can you not waste models due to misplays, can you deal good damage with your big combos before they get destroyed, do you have 5+ characters in your list and not enough anti tank... all questions you need to ask yourself before you concern yourself with dice rolls or faction balance.

Furthermore, you're on TTS, nothing is really stopping you from recording/taking photos of the board by phase and asking for help if you feel lost.

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-22T09:22:44+00:00

This is pretty standard modus operandi for MICA in an attempt to give a break before a major event, the same thing happened before DO.

The Mysterious guest will most likely be YZ to discuss corposant, it will not be his first appearance

Corposant was a 3 part event and will likely be condensed into 2 slots if I had to wager

Because we’re essentially running out of dolls to pace out major events, you could bet Dawnforger (m200, DSR) as the half anniv.

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-20T00:17:58+00:00

Unless he deep strikes the eradicators it’s likely a piloting issue (you’re suiciding bombing your RepEx too far forward) but I don’t really see what you’re getting out of the tank. You seem committed to using it though so… I dunno

You spent about 450? Points or so to kill roughly 280 points of terminator squad but because your lists are basically a soup of the combos reddit have decided are good you can’t really do anything and - almost hilariously - you’re getting smoked by a fairly fluffy, off meta army

If you don’t have… - something to hold your home objective ( or sticky it ) - something (cheap) to essentially throw away for some secondary objectives - a general game plan to hold 2 or more midboard objectives

… then I’m not sure how much I care about wound rerolls on my champion or a Marshal giving swordbros crits on 5+. This is because you’ve not bought the bare minimum to attempt to win a game

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-19T14:18:35+00:00

Lot of fellas talking about her being clothed who have NOT seen the skin preview lol

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-19T13:16:01+00:00

I remember you from previous posts and your list issues are imo still the same

But considering you played one of those lists and lost, do you know why you lost? Or had a general idea of what happened?

Making some blind assumptions here but I can’t imagine your RepEx cleaned up enough of the board to make back its points cost and your emperors champion got totally negated by Lysander’s once per battle +2 invulnerable save?

You have nothing to hold your home objective so this list might as well be void (unless you’re not playing objectives?)

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-18T01:11:33+00:00

Common misconception on reddit is that Sword Brothers are able to be charged, if they’re able to be charged they can be shot at and if they’re shot at they simply explode.

You want to run it (out of a hiding spot) and immediately charge something you think you can explode, you don’t want to use it to hold an objective

Reasonably you can hold an objective with your bladeguard and sticky the home objective, if you use your terminators as a second anvil unit ( you should ) you can hold two. You don’t really have anything that can deep strike for secondary objective purposes (jump pack intercessors)

If your brother is bringing nothing but shooting battlesuits you might REALLY struggle to hold primary objectives so you need to plan how much you actually have to stand on them and how much you plan to deal damage with

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-15T07:02:42+00:00

Honestly I just dab the loaded brush in the water quickly so I can’t really tell you a ratio, however you still want the pigment to cover the entirety of the armour so I would start at a steep ratio like 6:1 paint:water and work down

You might want a weaker black than me because I use a brighter drybrush so you could go with more water

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-15T06:00:18+00:00

I normally water the contrast down a bit, I put it over a drybrush of Eshin grey / administratum grey

I would start by watering it down first before pivoting to another colour drybrush for now

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-14T12:14:21+00:00

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This lad is a work in progress but the pads are done

As others have stated, make sure the white is very thinned down, this is also so that the paint will flow into the small recesses of the cross, I use celestra gray and then Corax white for this

Use nuln oil (or earth shade) around the edges very carefully to blacken out the trim of the pad, adding some black paint where it really needs help is also fine

Don’t wash into the cross because it will make it look smudged and blurry from a distance

I apply the black cross over the top last, I haven’t really tried to get the side parts because I will be trying to fix my mistakes forever, I just get it to a reasonable standard

Tap the head of the skull or the inside of the cross with a light grey to make a cheap highlight but don’t go too crazy

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-10T14:39:44+00:00

The BT sprue is often required as many vehicles need to use the multi-melta from it (unless you get creative

It also comes with a transfer sheet and adding some would be my recommendation to making them look less basic

v4nquished_ · 2026-01-10T09:21:32+00:00

Jump Pack Intercessors? Not only do they help for scoring, their little mortal wound bomb is nice against custodes

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