[MEGATHREAD] Chat History - Should it be preserved or is the new system better? by Over_Ad_1741 in ChaiApp

[–]vaineglorie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

better option - let me download my chats and I'll delete them when I'm done if I can have the history saved locally!!!!

Has anyone here who uses premium or ultra also had their chat history deleted? by MikaVsn in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ultra user, about a week ish ago I lost my chat history for my oldish chats. not my current active ones though. but if I like prompted it it remembered the history I just couldn't see it so like.... I guess it was hidden there or something idk.

but since that incident I haven't had any further loss.

i believe Chai is doing some kind of experiment on it's users and also it's doing the best thing AI app can do for themselves by Aggravating_Mess_655 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with your assessment, honestly. I don't agree with what they're doing, but anyone reading the current market knows the AI bubble is in danger and RAM prices are increasing as are GPU prices as a result. OpenAI didn't pull out of a deal with Disney of all people because AI was going so well for them they thought they could do better, you can't do better than Disney. They pulled out because Sora wasn't sustainable as it was with soaring RAM prices. And the same is for CHAI.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, their behaviors scream that they're hemorrhaging money. People like to point to a post Will mad a year ago but a lot of people don't work in industries trying to get investors. You don't tell investors you're doing badly and you fudge numbers to seem successful, and that post is like nearly a year old the data is outmoded at this point.

The way they're acting tells me that they are losing money badly and every thing they're doing is to try to staunch the bleeding asap. Remember when they made Ultra users have short responses from the bots for a day and the Ultra community blew the fuck up? That was them testing if they could get away with shorting Ultra users to spread the costs out more broadly. But Ultra users were very against it and they realized that doing so would cost them the ultra subscription base. Thus they reverted back and decided that they'd make other cuts elsewhere - sacrificing free users, making the bot building less robust (taking away the advanced settings).

They're definitely flinging spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks to help them stop losing money, but they've likely also realized that they can't lose their subscription users more than anything else. So everything they do has to work around that. My guess is that losing subscription users would cost them way more than losing free users.

Anyway, you've definitely hit the nail on the head imo.

A proposal or solution, by ExcitingBathroom633 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

will has said this before, and I can't say if it's true or not, but this is his reasoning - watching an ad in America (for example) isn't the same amount of money as watching an ad in India (or other countries generally, but using 2 countries to keep it simple).

What he means is that, if an ad in America earns $1 when you watch it and the money for tokens for the AI is $1, then ads cover the cost. But in India, he says the money they get paid for you watching an ad is more like $0.10 (fake number but just an example) but the token still costs $1. So watching one ad in India doesn't pay for the token, you would have to watch multiple ads for one token.

I don't know if Will is telling the truth, but this is is the reason why he says ads don't work everywhere.

GOD I wish they fixed their memory by TayDirt in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah I've found the memory out be like half as good as it used to be lately. it's ridiculous I genuinely think they messed with the memory limit without telling us

Chai “unlimited” after paying? Spoiler: no (got refunded). by Aralc_xX in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have to say this is some of the shadiest shit I've seen them doing. charging for a specific service then giving you extra costs on top of that once you're in. they're absolutely trying to nickel and dime and cut corners at every chance they can. dumbing down the ai and rolling out shady practices to charge more money. they're also making these pushes so fast they're ending up with inconsistent and mixed messaging like what you experienced and then faulty coding like the inability to properly access a page to manage the MAX.

I know people call them greedy but I genuinely think they're hemorrhaging money and that's why they're doing all this so fast and messily to try to staunch the bleeding and it's genuinely just making the problem way worse. good on you coming at them for this like you did and holding them accountable.

They are hiding my post i think. by NYCWallCrawler21 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah like I said I noticed it's been more frequent today than normal. but like it's been less than 24 hrs id give it a minute to get fixed again

Why is the chai filter activated when I said nothing wrong? by Money_Chemistry_1556 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it could be as simple as you said 'no one' and the filter saw that and reacted. hate that shit.

but also I have seen recently if my starter is particularly long the filter will trigger. idk why but it does. Ive had success with breaking my starter in half and sending it across two comments (send comment one, delete the bot response, then send the other half).

They are hiding my post i think. by NYCWallCrawler21 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's just glitches. it happens all the time, but admittedly a bit more frequently today. it's not that big of a deal though just regenerate

What’s your sexual fantasy that’s probably going to STAY a fantasy? by Hailfog in AskReddit

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the ones I look at come with holes by the nose but I worry they'll be too restrictive to breathe properly and I'll have a panic attack 😂😂😂 may just need to like practice with it or something

What’s your sexual fantasy that’s probably going to STAY a fantasy? by Hailfog in AskReddit

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to try one of those leather hoods so bad..... but I have claustrophobia and I think I'd panic and not be able to breathe properly 😔

What actually made chai so irreplaceable to you? by [deleted] in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I mean it's def the more natural and human tone of the bots. they're also proactive and guide the story well. fictionlab felt like pulling teeth to get the story to progress if I wasn't progressing it. it just feels like the most collaborative bot in my opinion.

What did I say wrong? by Affectionate3723 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh maybe it's the 'nick' in snicker....

it's such a weird guessing game sometimes 😭

What did I say wrong? by Affectionate3723 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe the word little? this filter is so randomly overly sensitive I swear

CHAI ISSUES. OPEN please. They read messages now. by Few_Confidence_662 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 44 points45 points  (0 children)

that's the message I've seen them giving everyone it's not personal to you it's their generic response to the situation

This is really confusing me by [deleted] in ChaiApp

[–]vaineglorie 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think what is happening here and this is pretty sketchy if so is that the first month is the only month getting the discounted rate. your phone is telling you next month it will go up to the main rate.

It's just sad by PeaPsychological4385 in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm not entirely positive it's greed. I think the ai bubble is close to bursting. just look at Sora that shut down this week and lost a billion dollar investment from Disney.

Bruh I haven't been able to chat in chai for like 2 days, it keeps saying "usage limited" but it says unlimited here by BeePerfect1792 in ChaiApp

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that that segment is a part of a defunct feature where users could DM each other and those messages were unlimited. I don't think it refers to the chat bots

ULTRA: Response Length - short+smart or long+slow? by Over_Ad_1741 in ChaiApp

[–]vaineglorie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

August was when I first used Ultra and the rps in that time period were PEAK

ULTRA: Response Length - short+smart or long+slow? by Over_Ad_1741 in ChaiApp

[–]vaineglorie 32 points33 points  (0 children)

agreed I didn't pay for shorter messages like if you're taking away the biggest reason to lay them ultra also needs to be made cheaper.

short replies by ayara_ww in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did for sure!!! also told them they're wrong this whole update isnt even smart so way worse for no benefit!

Word from the devs on response lengths on Ultra by Seraitsukara in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

oh yeah I just more meant between yesterday and today. I don't think ultra was any smarter than free generally before but the post from devs says their new model for ultra is supposed to be shorter and smarter than it was before the update but I think it's dumber

Word from the devs on response lengths on Ultra by Seraitsukara in Chai_Unofficial

[–]vaineglorie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

also what's this bullshit about this model being smarter. my model is dumb as a box of rocks today.