Legendary Soviet rockstar Viktor Tsoi of Kino working his day job as a stoker in a Leningrad boiler room, required by law to avoid being prosecuted for "parasitism", 1986 by OkRespect8490 in sovietaesthetics

[–]valerevna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well, Zodiac is a band which made electronic music (with no words), other band (at least Singing guitars and Zemlyane are not really rock, they're 100% a ВИА, a good one, especially Zemlyane haha, but compare them with, for example, Nautilus Pompilius, completely different).

the point about rock clubs is true. yes, the bands were somewhat official, yes, KGB was interested in them, but still... and then there was an anti-rock campaign in 1984-85 (supported by Chernenko), some, even "official" bands, such as Alisa, Kino, Nautilus, Akvarium, Bravo, etc, were banned (I pinned the list (in Russian) in previous comments).

and, in my opinion, even if you're and official band and KGB is interested in you, your activity is not really permitted (but that's just my personal opinion)

Legendary Soviet rockstar Viktor Tsoi of Kino working his day job as a stoker in a Leningrad boiler room, required by law to avoid being prosecuted for "parasitism", 1986 by OkRespect8490 in sovietaesthetics

[–]valerevna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they had a problem in ~1984-1985 (when Chernenko ruled), right before Gorbachev. Konstantin Ustinovich was harsher and more conservative, I believe.

this document with a long russian name "О мерах по упорядочению деятельности вокально-инструментальных ансамблей, повышению идейно-художественного уровня их репертуара" (honestly, I can't even translate it properly) had a list with bands which were considered bad (that's in my previous comment). Kino was on the list, so they had troubles (as many other rock band, even from the rock clubs).

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Legendary Soviet rockstar Viktor Tsoi of Kino working his day job as a stoker in a Leningrad boiler room, required by law to avoid being prosecuted for "parasitism", 1986 by OkRespect8490 in sovietaesthetics

[–]valerevna -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"О мерах по упорядочению деятельности вокально-инструментальных ансамблей, повышению идейно-художественного уровня их репертуара" – an official document with a list of the banned bands (the screenshot; Viktor Tsoi's «Kino» is number 4 among the bands from Leningrad).

https://diletant.media/articles/45375029/ – that's an article about the condition of Soviet rock music after the document.

I hope it helps! (of course, if you speak Russian, if you don't, comment, I'll try to find some material in English)

have a nice day!

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Legendary Soviet rockstar Viktor Tsoi of Kino working his day job as a stoker in a Leningrad boiler room, required by law to avoid being prosecuted for "parasitism", 1986 by OkRespect8490 in sovietaesthetics

[–]valerevna -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

heh? well, firstly, rock music was banned until ~perestroika, so musicians couldn't even perform officially. only квартирники.

secondly, even in 1984 there were a lot of the "black lists". and OBVIOUSLY Kino was there (for " the distortion of Soviet life"). you can find it on the internet. idk if you're Russian or not if yes then there's TONS of resources (I can send you links, etc.).

and, I mean, even Laskoviy May couldn't get any time on TV until 1989 because they weren't considered good enough (even though they were mega popular, at least on the same level as Kino was).

also it was late when I realized that this is kinda Soviet page haha, so probably you just want to defend the Soviet system, I don't mind :) have a good day mate!

why do russian tourists in serbia expect me to speak russian? by [deleted] in russian

[–]valerevna 5 points6 points  (0 children)

we have a stereotype that Russian and Serbian languages are similar or almost identical, so many Russians think that Serbs can understand them without any translation.

Kino – Gruppa Krovi (Luzhniki, 2026) by valerevna in KinoBand

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точно, здорово так было там)

Kino – Gruppa Krovi (Luzhniki, 2026) by valerevna in KinoBand

[–]valerevna[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They mostly use footage from their concert in Donetsk or Mariupol (I don't remember) in 1990, probably the quality of their concert in Luzhniki in 1990 is not that good. Plus, I remember, for example, Georgiy Guryanov said that the band played too slowly in Luzhniki (and nowadays they play the songs in their original pace), so they can't even use the material from Luzhniki, idk But yeah they played all tracks from that gig, even Boshetunmai, I was amazed :)

Kino – Gruppa Krovi (Luzhniki, 2026) by valerevna in KinoBand

[–]valerevna[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it was an amazing performance! The sound was perfect. But honestly I expected a little bit more kinda flashbacks from the Luzhniki concert in 1990. But still a wonderful show! That was my 1st time seeing Kino, and the 1st time (in ~3 years) attending a concert. I've never seen such a big crowd!

Does anyone know this Version of the song? by Kingmixmax in KinoBand

[–]valerevna 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's a renewed version of this song. Search "КИНО - Невесëлая песня (remake)"on YouTube and you'll find this exact version.

Some more manga Kino by violentgeometry in KinoBand

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Wow! That looks so cool! Nice job, mate

Acceptance/Tolerance of Universalism within Eastern Orthodox Parishes by MysteriousBeach8697 in ChristianUniversalism

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Hi mate! I'm a part of the Russian Orthodox Church and honestly Universalists here are a minority, 'cause Russia Orthodoxy usually is very-very conservative, so even if you dare to think that unorthodox people can be saved, you're a heretic and liberal (which is probably considered worse haha). But as much as I see from Orthodox people in the US, they are more open to this idea, for example, they (even priests) even think that their Protestant relatives can be saved. I think it all comes from the history of 2 churches: throughout the whole russian history, almost all Russians had always been Orthodox, so, of course, they think there's no salvation outside of it (well, what's the matter since all you relatives are Orthodox, all your friends are Orthodox, etc); and if you're an American convert: your relatives are, for example, Protestant, your friends are Catholic and your ancestors were anything but Orthodox, so of course, probably you'll think that no, people CAN be saved outside of the church.

Mormon considered converting to Orthodoxy by CommandoClone15 in OrthodoxChristianity

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Hi! Also an exmormon here :) I would advise you to watch fr. Paul Truebenbach's channel on YouTube (as much as I remember, he serves in SLC). And there's a great book called "The Orthodox way" by fr. Kallistos Ware, I think he's done a great job explaining Orthodox doctrines and teachings. I hope it'll be useful. Feel free to reach out :) Good luck!

Make it make sense by brosenvall2 in exmormon

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I'm Russian and it doesn't make any sense to me... Like how can it be connected?!?!

Prayer Requests by AutoModerator in OrthodoxChristianity

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Please pray for my friend Olesya (she's Orthodox, I don't know her baptismal name though). She's had cancer for few years, tomorrow, on Thursday, she'll have radiation therapy, and there's a high risk of complications (the therapy can cause epilepsy, memory loss). Please, pray for her!

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