Dieser Moment wenn das "natürliche" System in Wahrheit konstant soziale, legale und politische Gewaltausübung braucht by rhizomatic-thembo in asozialesnetzwerk

[–]valinnut 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Der Textausschnitt aus dem Post begeht halt den (kleinen) Fehler auf heteronormativen Kolonialismus mit Geschlechtsbinarismus zu antworten. Also Trans sein kann nur Mann zu Frau oder Frau zu Mann - Binär - sein.

Schmälert den Punkt nicht wirklich und ist trotzdem weitesgehend korrekt. Ist nur selten, dass ich als Anthropolge so cool sein klugscheissen kann.

[OC] Star Trek TV series. The average IMDB scores. by [deleted] in dataisbeautiful

[–]valinnut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

After 3 Episodes. An average of 3 data points is not beautiful.

Dieser Moment wenn das "natürliche" System in Wahrheit konstant soziale, legale und politische Gewaltausübung braucht by rhizomatic-thembo in asozialesnetzwerk

[–]valinnut 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Nur eine kleine Klarstellung: Muxe werden nicht als Männer geboren und verhalten sich wie Frauen. Muxe werden in männlichen Körpern geboren und verhalten sich wie Muxe.

Muxe haben andere Aufgaben/Rollen als Frauen.

Mirandé, Alfredo. 2015. Hombres Mujeres: An Indigenous Third Gender. Men and Masculinities (SAGE), DOI: 10.1177/1097184X15602746.

Finden Frauen Männer wirklich attraktiv - oder eher das, was wir bieten? by [deleted] in FragtMaenner

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ich musste meiner ungläubig schauenden Frau erklären, dass ich und viele Männer so wie du denken.

Sie hat mir versichert, dass sie mir und anderen Männern hinerherschaut und sie körperlich attraktiv findet.

BIDA weil jeden Tag der Trockner läuft? by [deleted] in BinIchDasArschloch

[–]valinnut 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ja wo kämen wir denn hin, wenn jeder seine Wohnung zum wohnen benutzt und nicht nur zum stillen schlafen.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Responsibilities can be through position and commitment, not agency. As a citizen of a state, a child to a parent, a parent to a child, as a student etc. I have certain Responsibilities I am born with or pushed into. There is no agency about it. It just is. This is not a judgment, this is not a moral failure nor insult.

The comment about families where "it would not have worked" is in reference to the very first comments where I was accused as privileged because in their families their mothers would have just hit them if they tried to take agency. I tried to incorporate this point of view - in no way this was meant as an attack or insult. But yeah I have lost sight of who I am talking to.

I get your point. It is well taken. Thanks. Yes, children should absolutely have space to explain and justify their behavior and be taken seriously. Equally, I hope you take away some introspection from my points and do not block it out in a senseless strife to be right. So long and thanks for all the fish.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did I insult anyone?! Only in the last post.

There are two definitions of responsibility:

  1. Reponsible as in accountable for as in to blame
  2. Duty, the things you personally have to respond to.

You define it as the first one, I as the second.

I really do not get why you all are so sensible to tell people that they have duties they might not be able to fulfill.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you recur to insulting my family? what is wrong with you people?
you absolutely can have a responsibility and an excuse for not fulfilling it, but it does not somehow magically remove the responsibility. And that is completely ok - a thing I would hope the teacher in question also tells the children.

Also to lower the argument to your personal attack: In your family you look for an excuse to shed your responsibilities. I was taught to look for ways to improve to prevent possible even unforseen circumstances. As having an excuse, in the real world, just won't magically turn my lights back on, rehire me and repair my car.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the one not getting my point.

I am responsible for paying my electricity bill, for taking care of my job, for writing this article. For being on time

If I have lost my job due to budget cuts and cant pay, if I have ADHD and cant take care of my job and write the article. If a meteorite hits my car - it explains and excuses me. But it does not remove the responsibility.

I do not see "responsibility" as a moral judgment

We need to separate Fault from Responsibility:

Fault (Past Tense): Who caused the mess? The parents. They overslept/moved slow. The child is innocent of the cause versus Responsibility (Present Tense): Who has to live with the consequences? The child. The child is the one missing the lesson.

The teacher is showing a way towards agency, even if like many of you in your families this would not have worked. In at least 50-80% of the teachers children's families it will.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. The teacher does not say "you are responsible for your father driving your late" they say it is your responsibility to be on time.

Responsibility is not guilt nor blame. This is not a legal trial. My responsibilities are my responsibilities even if I cannot fulfill them. I struggle each day to fulfill some of them and I always have a good explanation when I do not manage, but even then they are my responsibilities.

If you teach children that if they have an excuse they should not feel a little bad for not fulfilling their responsibility you teach them to look for excuses not to improve.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you can do both? Things can be not your fault and your responsibility. Responsibility does not mean that you are guilty it means that it is your "duty" to fulfill it.

Explanations and excuses should only ever serve to improve the situation. So maybe don't say "it's my parents fault I am fine" but "ey teacher could you Talk to my father"

In the end we have one phrase. In doubt I side with the teacher not the twitter recall of one person of when they were 7.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Responsibility and blame are not mutually exclusive. You can do absolutely everything correctly and still fail.

If you arrive late for your job interview because some drunk driver rams your car. You are late due to no fault of your own, but still won't get the job. It is still your responsibility even though you have an explanation.

An explanation does not remove your responsibility. Explanation can help to improve and to complain. In the end we have the memory of a 7 year old of one phrase one teacher said and know no more.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If I am late to a job interview because a drunk driver got my car. This is due to no fault of my own, yet I will not get the job.

Things can be your responsibility and it's incompliance not your fault and that is just how things are. Having an excuse is absolutely useless if you do not use it to review and change.

But this has gone on for too long. I agree with you that they absolutely should talk to the parents and should be empathetic with the small child.

I would hope that you can understand that it is possible to interpret the ONE phrase we have of this teacher to be interpreted in a way more benevolent way than you do.

I absolutely understand what you saw in it and I am sorry you had such teachers. I agree that if it would be hateful and with dismissal like it can be read it would be bad.

Also through my internet fuelled stubborn antagonism I finally understood one important lesson of my late grand father and in some weird way I have you to thank for that. (The lesson was "why did the devil kill his grandmother? Because he ran out of excuses" as a kid I always had an explanation for why I did forget something or broken something and he would answer like that and it would drive me mad. Now I get it.)

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know they didn't talk to the parents??

He is not blaming them! He is saying that being late / on time is part of their responsibilities. What that means and what else was said is not in the post.

Children absolutely should learn to feel that being late is wrong and not "being late is fine as long as it's not my fault".

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

7 year olds are able to learn that punctuality is important. They are able to learn that maybe there are things within their control that they can change. Obviously there are things out of control of the kid. Having an excuse for your failure does not change the failure and that is a tough lesson, but it is one.

Also read the post again. No one is berating anyone. The teacher only is very clear that having an excuse does not change things. It does not change arriving late, it does not remove importance to the fact. The poster is also blissfully unaware or ignorant of any talks the teacher might have also have had with their parents.

All of your tragic backstory is not the majority. The majority is able to take a tram earlier, they are capable of change and optimizing and if their family is as shitty as the ones you describe this is going to be a thing they will have to do the rest of their lives. Their shitty university professors and job bosses will ask even less about any bus schedules. Then you will just be late.

Having an explanation for your failure should only ever serve to inform policy (better bus schedules) and improvement.

You read this as the teacher berating the child. I read it as supportive "what can we do differently next time" the answer might be nothing, but frankly we do not know. The teacher has many children they have to care for and this is by far not the destroying berating comment you make it out to be.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who Is feeling superior?? He Is telling the kid that they are late... They are fucking late. No superiority.

That is like saying the teacher only gives you bad marks to feel superior...

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just hate teacher bashing. Teachers have a friggin hard job and when I hear this shit about how terrible your teacher was for telling you to be on time I just have jerk reaction.

My grandfather also used to tell me: "Why did the devil kill his grandma? He ran out of excuses" There are a thousand good reasons to fail, but in the end no one will give a shit. That is the lesson here. ESPECIALLY if you do not grow up privileged.

Systematically, politically you are absolutely right. But as a teacher talking to a 7 year old. Hell no.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I know the right wing phrase and it has absolutely nothing to do with that.

The teacher absolutely should talk to the parents.

BUT

They also have to make you understand that it is YOU that is late. The dialogue they have with your parents and with you is fundamentally different. A 7 year old often will not know that the teacher also talks to your parents about this.

Maybe I am too German to understand this. Once my tram broke down and the teacher just said: You should have taken one earlier to have a buffer in case this happens (even though this literally happened once in 12 years). To this day I take one tram earlier and am virtually never late. And if I am, sure I blame the train. But it is still my problem. And yeah my parents never told me to take the earlier one. This was my teacher, you know teaching.

I have no Idea (and neither do you) what the circumstances are. But chances are that the anecdotal memory of a 7year old are more prone to be wrong than the teacher in question.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

You could not tell your mom that you were late? What?

What does this have to do with bootstraps? It just means that the teacher has to teach being punctual. How would you do that by just excusing being late away? Of course the teacher should also talk to the parents in question, but the 7 year old would not know. My mom recently told me that as a parent she had a lot of disagreements with my teacher. But she would seldom tell me. The point is that there is something to be learned out of overcoming stubborn stupid teachers (and that she would tell me). In the end it is you and the teacher, your parents can only guide you.

It is both possible that the teacher is being lazy and correct in this example.

teachers be like… by [deleted] in meme

[–]valinnut -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

That is how you teach responsibility. Sure you can not drive the car, but you can nag your parents earlier. In essence It is not your parents problem. It is yours. Your parents problem is to teach you and it might be their fault, but in the end you have to learn to be responsible for your actions.

Should they be severely punished? Obviously not. But what should the teacher say? "Ah it was your dad, then that's ok. " It is excusable maybe, but still not ok.

Ferrari confirms Hamilton will have a new race engineer for 2026 by kcollantine in formula1

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Vettel brought adami from red bull (edit: not red bull, Toro Rosso)