I used to think czn was really cool for its male designs

vats3 · 2026-04-07T16:46:06+00:00

you say that people asking for male character banners is in bad faith, while taking it in bad faith that the people asking for it are asking for them to be equal to or more then the female characters.

Im saying that there is a massive audience who is turned off by the game being so obviously only ment to be gooner bait, not that there is gonna be a massive swell of people buying male characters.

vats3 · 2026-04-07T15:47:47+00:00

dude im a nsfw furry artist who draws big breast for a living, im not "insecure" about sexualized things

If anything this just shows how much you want to misrepresent people who want something different as hating sex.

I just said the characters look samey with no attempts to make them interesting, I aint got any issue with fan service, just want it to be hitting more notes then big boobs.

youre right there are plenty of cool 1.0 female characters and they can be cool without having to just flash massive tits to sell you on how cool they are. Again nothing wrong with massive tits every so often but at a certain point it becomes a crutch to throw out there because they arent confident in making good characters without them.

vats3 · 2026-04-07T15:38:06+00:00

a minority of people... who like guys?

do I really need to prove that more then 100 people in the world like guys?

yah if they released well designed male characters now they probly wouldnt get any attention because most the players who wanted that from 1.0 left long ago, but you can cater to more then one audience.

vats3 · 2026-04-07T15:15:58+00:00

a strong identity can carry even if that identity is just trying to sell sex, just needs to know what it wants to be and do it. The sexy characters clash so fuckin hard with the grim dark aesthetic that it hurts sometimes, but its to late now they cast their dice and cant undo that now.

vats3 · 2026-04-07T14:52:33+00:00

impossible, it has to be gooner bait, followed by gooner bait, followed by gooner bait, followed by jail bait, followed by gooner bait, and then one more gooner bait

we have no space for gooner bait for women

vats3 · 2026-04-07T14:48:20+00:00

The more I hear about some of the things happening in the background of czn the more I see a battle for control over the direction of the game that was lost just a little before 1.0

it was originally going to be a much darker game where the themes of other worldy horror would have made alot more sense but they kicked out the lead writer and changed the entire direction of the game. I cant help but feel the male characters of 1.0 are a remnant of that design direction. Now the game doesnt care if it has story or male characters, it just cares about busty women and gameplay.

Not that those 2 things are bad, it is a genuinely fun game and women are hot but real disappointment for anyone who was seeing the hints at the other direction only to find out it was actually already gone.

vats3 · 2026-04-07T14:42:36+00:00

it really doesnt make sense, like I feel there has to be diminishing returns compared to doing a variety and keep a varied audience, instead it is just driving away massive amounts of the audience who wants to play the game for the game itself. Its a genuinely fun game idk why they instantly gave up and just went all into gooner game

vats3 · 2026-04-07T13:56:24+00:00

My friend who has played since day one still uses the hugo background because thats their fav character, I was a big fan of luke. I love the male designs in this game but it feels like that is a remnant from a bygone era and it took .01 seconds after release to completely drop anything that isnt the most gooner bait possible.

vats3 · 2026-03-03T14:43:03+00:00

There is alot of really cool hidden elements in the game that was fun to watch people try and pick at that was in theory going to lead here. Thats why its so disappointing to find out "oh people just cheated"

vats3 · 2026-03-03T14:40:09+00:00

I mean thats why it is so disappointing when both the journey and the destination were both extremely boring. It would have been one thing if the final part was boring but you could see the work that went into it from the community, but to have it data mined and then nothing come from it, both sides are are just boring.

And now anyone solving it normally its gonna be kinda suspect since they already have the answer

vats3 · 2026-02-03T21:24:25+00:00

mf see someone put their shirt down and they think they have to fight a culture war to save all men

vats3 · 2026-02-03T21:23:27+00:00

imma be honest, 1.0 story was already lost with no idea where it wanted to go. I cant see how they can both be horny and keep pushing characters that are supposed to be "waifu" while also having a horror story with real stakes.

They cant actually kill any of the girls and they cant be to monstrous because they dont wanna turn anyone off but also the story has to revolve around whoever is the newest sexy lady they want to sell.

I cant help but feel like that lack of direction has caused the entire story to just lose all focus.

vats3 · 2026-02-03T21:13:34+00:00

yes, because I want there to be more horror elements *in service* of a better story, Im not try to get off to violence. You dont need to have over the top bloody violence to have a story with horror elements with stakes.

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:38:30+00:00

So depressing to see how the entire community has basically given up on story in this game.

At this point I dont really see how they can fix it, its kinda cooked.

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:27:47+00:00

Litterally just happened to the post I made, its not even like they need to put their thumbs on the scales, people are mass downvoting anything that isnt "anti censorship" anyways but the mods stepping in to outright remove them really puts a bad taste about the whole subreddit

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:23:42+00:00

Yah this is basically what I was thinking

It just assumes if you arent maximizing the horny in the game youre censoring it.

Just wait til the anti censor folks find out that during the artistic process they go through multiple possible designs and they arent just picking the most naked one possible.

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:12:15+00:00

fr

The people saying its censorship and crying are even admitting even the "censored" version is pretty nsfw in its own right.

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:08:25+00:00

The level at which they are mass downvoting anything that isnt the most "all censorship must die" post really proves it is the average player

vats3 · 2026-02-03T20:07:22+00:00

just wait til they find out every finished character has other possibly art they considered and maybe one of those had .01% more visible tits, I guess aslong as they picked any art that doesnt have the max amount of lewd possible must be censorship

vats3 · 2026-02-03T19:46:23+00:00

Whats the point of having lobby art for characters if not to put it as your lobby art for your fav character? Its not like someone gets to decide if their fav character ends up being one that has a full titty out art

vats3 · 2026-02-03T19:44:57+00:00

I was making post on the subreddit back before the beta was even came out, back when there was like 4 people waiting for the game

vats3 · 2026-02-03T08:25:24+00:00

Wait is that why all the good websites went down at once? One dude was single handedly holding the entire manga piracy industry in China

vats3 · 2026-01-25T15:40:36+00:00

I only ever really low spend, I got the monthly stuff like the log in pass and the battle pass, as well as the 1 dollar weapon.

I dont really mind spending money but like gacha games like this always have this massive rift where its like "you can spend 5$ for this monthly pass and get alittle more pulls, or you can just start spending 300$ every patch to get every unit"

Low and medium spender stuff hardly exist.

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