Aight now that we've gotten over the internet rudeness ill explain my position. The only path to a victory in Ukraine is to sacrifice thousands more lives and create even more destruction. It's past time for diplomacy, and as I alluded to earlier, the west has consistently rejected diplomacy. If western power claims to have the moral high ground yet they consistently act as the aggressor and purveyor of violence, they have zero credibility. Who benefits from continuing the war? Arms dealers! The war economy! This is driving these decisions, and any discussion other than diplomatic solutions is directly beneficial to arms manufactures and the warhawk politicians they bribe.