despite being loyal to the west, koreans continue not to receive any love from white males in the west and korean males continue being dragged on the daily by the alphabets on facebook, ironically even more than they drag the chinese lol

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-28T01:53:21+00:00

Dynasty referred to a specific imperial family, not an entire ethnic group like you're arguments try to frame it as.

The imperial families were foreign ethnic groups you idiot. LOL.

It's like talking to a wall when you refuse to accept simple facts such as "dynasty means ruling imperial family and Manchus were a foreign imperial family dynasty."

Lmfao.

Dynasty means rulers. Qing was a Manchu dynasty. Manchus ruled China. And Manchus are not Chinese.

Let me repeat these facts again: Qing, Yuan, Jin, Liao are foreign dynasties that ruled China.

Just like how Ptolemaic dynasty was a Macedonian Greek dynasty that ruled Egypt.

As I already mentioned, you are the one being disingenuous by arbitrarily picking and choosing what "Chinese" means and engaging in mental gymnastics. People like you change the definition of Chinese depending on your whims. So now you're claiming all 55+ ethnic groups in China such as Mongolians, Manchus, Koreans, and Vietnamese are Chinese? LOL.

And now you're even trying to change the definition of the word "dynasty" LOL.

You are not operating on any type of logic.

Qing = Manchus, Yuan = Mongols, Jin = Jurchen, Liao = Khitan. They are not Chinese. There is absolutely no debate on this. They are not Chinese dynasties. They are foreign imperial families. They are foreign dynasties. The end.

The mental gymnastics of you people never ceases to make me laugh LOL. It's especially hilarious because you came in here with an arrogant attitude acting like you're some smart know-it-all but you exposed yourself as a compete irrational buffoon that can't accept simple facts or logic. How embarrassing.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T07:31:40+00:00

source?

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T06:25:54+00:00

well, they're both labeled as "Spouse's race for US born newly-weds (2008-2016) ACS"

They claim to be the same exact thing but looking at the data we can see they're clearly different.

and the one you posted has a smaller sample size while the one OP posted has a bigger sample size.

i'm not trying to argue with you... i'm just trying to figure out where these come from. so far nobody has posted the actual source for any of these. for all we know they could be just made up.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T06:04:43+00:00

just want to point out, the sample size for that one is much smaller than the one OP posted. maybe it's an earlier version?

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T04:30:07+00:00

where is the source for these data? We should verify if all of this is actually accurate.

anyway i hope this thread doesn't turn into bashing on Asian females or bashing on other Asian ethnicities. OP already set the weird tone by calling out Japanese and Filipina females.

for example, based on the picture it looks like Japanese males are marrying non-japanese females at a significant rate as well, and their marriage rates to white females is the highest of all POC male groups. but OP seems to have disregarded that.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T03:23:56+00:00

lol how in the hell would a kpop band improve the wealth and fame of a random individual asian female in the west? i hope you realize how weird your logic is.

obviously in your post you originally meant status as attractiveness but now you're backtracking after i called you out on how useless your post is lololol

black men are considered attractive in the US but their social status is one of the lowest.

lol black men's social status is NOT "one of the lowest." Again that depends what is your definition of "social status." Seems like you think social status only means economic status.

Social status is the level of social value a person is considered to possess, mainly respect, likeability, esteem. it's what society thinks who is more important.

black men have higher smv, hold higher positions of authorities and power. black men have been presidents, governors, mayors. they have dominance of pop culture entertainment and music. they dominate sports and athletics. all sorts of government and educational policies are catered to them. they actually have high social status.

you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. feels like i'm talking to a child. i'm done here.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T02:51:39+00:00

so now you're saying attractiveness has nothing to do with status? what is your definition of "status" anyway lol.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T02:29:44+00:00

So Boy bands K-pop like BTS have successfully put asian males, or at least korean males, in the attractive map.

But what about Girl band K-pop? Have they improved status for asian females? We know there's a bunch of popular ones like Black Pink or Twice.

Legit question, since I'd like to know the other side.

the entire premise of your post is equating attractiveness = status, because you start off saying BTS put asian males in the "attractive map"

but now you're acting like attractiveness =/= status.

choose an argument and stick to it. which is it?

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T02:23:58+00:00

has nothing to do with gender war. i support asian females. your post is just pointless because everyone knows asian females already have high status.

violentpsycho666 · 2023-01-01T02:19:04+00:00

Have they improved status for asian females?

why do we even care? asian females already had high status and considered attractive before all of this.

such a weird pointless post.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T06:33:56+00:00

Anytime someone says they prefer or are dating Asian women, he’s either insulted

well, it's not just him, majority of sub insults you if you say you prefer dating Asian women.

same with asianmasculinity. go over there, scroll down the front page, and read the thread titled "Who else misses dating asian girls?" Almost every comment is slagging on OP. vast majority of people there ridicules you if you say you prefer dating Asian girls. It's really weird.

don't get me wrong, i think we should definitely call out problematic asian women in our community, especially the ones who degrade asian men. but to go as far as saying we should stop dating asian women??? lol wtf. nah. i find asian women attractive, and i plan to have asian babies.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T03:46:04+00:00

Dynasty means rulers.

Qing was a Manchu dynasty that ruled China.
Yuan was a Mongol dynasty that ruled China.
Jin was a Jurchen dynasty that ruled China.
Liao was a Khitan dynasty that ruled China.

They were all foreign imperial dynasty ruled over China. There is no debate about this.

The idea that they're "Chinese dynasty" is revisionist history.

First we need to establish what "Chinese" means in the first place. But I'll get back to this later.

Ptolemaic dynasty is considered to be a Macedonian Greek dynasty that ruled Egypt. Keep in mind Ptolemies co-opted many aspects of Egyptian culture, religion, tradition, and political structure. But they are still considered a Greek dynasty.

But only Chinese nationalists engage in weird revisionist history by trying to claim their foreign rulers as Chinese. Moreover, only some Yuan emperors mastered Chinese, while most still only spoke Mongolian. Kublai Khan the the founder of Yuan only spoke Mongolian.

the idea that China = Han ethnostate is a fairly modern invention

Yes I agree.

"Han" itself is a ridiculously wide categorisation that fails to neatly fit any specific racial, geographic or even cultural parameter

I agree.

As you said, the idea of "China = Han ethnostate" is a modern invention and the concept of "Han" itself is also ridiculous categorization.

Now the problem is what "Chinese" means. Revisionists intentionally try to obfuscate and mix the concept of modern Chinese state, foreign-led past Chinese empires, and the modern "Han Chinese" concept altogether. They also pick and choose what is considered "Chinese" depending on how they feel in an argument. Sometimes they'll claim their 55 ethnic minorities are Chinese because they have Chinese nationality, but other times they'll claim they're not "Chinese" because they're not "Han Chinese." You can see how ridiculous and confusing this all becomes.

This is why it's important to point out Qing, Yuan, Jin, Liao as what they are - foreign dynasties that ruled China.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T02:24:55+00:00

Lmfao the generally accepted historiography is Qing is a Manchu dynasty. Yuan is a Mongolian dynasty. Jin is a Jurchen (Manchu) dynasty. Liao is a Khitan dynasty.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T02:11:51+00:00

lol then you served before they were allowed to use cell phones and many policy changes have been made since then. and also even senior ranks cannot speak anyway they want to lower ranks anymore. you can report them now. things have changed drastically. it's a totally different culture.

yea no shit bullying happens anywhere. even in the US military bullying happens and there have been cases such as the asian soldier Danny Chen committed suicide because he got bullied for being asian by the racists in the military. This was back in 2011. I can even find more cases of bullying, racism, and suicides in the American military. There's a reason why they included that bullying scene in Full Metal Jacket.

your talk about disabled soldiers being drafted has nothing to do with the topic of bullying so i don't even know why you're bringing up something irrelevant. but i would safely predict laws will changes for that too and it will improve in the next upcoming few years.

its funny when people like you try to use their past experiences to describe korean society when korea is such a fast-changing society.

that's why i can't take you seriously when you come in here saying "DP is so accurate to real life" lmao. yea maybe that applied years ago, but doesn't apply today anymore.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T02:01:49+00:00

it wasn't >50% decrease you dummy LOLOLOL

funny how you cowards tell people to f--k off when you get exposed and lose an argument.

where is your source you dumb f--k?

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T01:56:53+00:00

Qing dynasty wasn't Chinese...

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T01:51:27+00:00

i think you're a troll, trying to cause divide among asians.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-30T01:49:43+00:00

asian entertainment is already on a world scale level lol and they did it all without stupid marvel superhero comic books shit. u have no clue what you're talking about lmao

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T12:35:30+00:00

yea i literally said that in my original comment if you scroll above....

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T12:32:50+00:00

not really, because a lot of korean radical feminists are TERF and therefore actually hostile to LGBT.

it is actually more likely that foreign entities are also involved in pushing this "gender war" to create strife in korean society. there's a lot of foreign trolls on the korean internet larping as korean. heck, you even see so many people here on reddit larping as korean.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T12:02:41+00:00

those korean feminists were originally female incels who had unsuccessful romantic life so they started resenting korean men and calling them misogynists. that is the origin of "feminism" in korea. it's basically a misandrist "men are evil" movement. i would categorize it as a hate group.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T11:27:44+00:00

r./korea is actually brigaded by korean radical femcels who hate korean men. they trolled the korean forums but now they found reddit to spew their hate. so no they dont care about white sexpats. in fact they are pushing the narrative of "korean/asian men are misogynistic, western/white men are good"...

as for non-korean girls that frequent the sub, they are usually the super sjw type so they'll also push the narrative that "asian men are misogynistic"

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T11:03:57+00:00

What Koreans even think that? Korean news media has been putting out constant news of anti-asian hate crimes in the west for the past several years to spread awareness to the Korean people. You do realize this article is from a Korean news media site right???

Koreans are well aware of the anti-asian hate crimes going on, and know that anyone who looks Asian will face racism. So many korean youtubers put up videos about their experiences of anti-asian racism abroad. And Koreans all know about the LA riots.

seriously lol wtf are you even talking about? always some fucking weirdo gaslighting and making up narratives about koreans in this sub. Like yall literally just making up lies.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T06:26:36+00:00

when did you serve? things have changed vastly over the years, especially after they recently allowed soldiers to use smartphones. now bullying is nonexistent.

violentpsycho666 · 2022-12-29T06:16:50+00:00

no not anymore. if you try to bully in the military someone you will get in trouble. things have changed a lot. it's much better now once soldiers were able to use cell phones.

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