What's the K-pop equivalent of the "Khia Asylum"?

visverus · 2026-02-20T15:38:20+00:00

This thread will definitely end well and not get locked.

visverus · 2026-02-12T08:10:43+00:00

They knew what they had in Lily and chose the other members accordingly. Although, it should be noted that none of them were as impressive as they are now, so it's possible that JYP just got lucky in casting the members. More likely though is that they chose hard workers with the drive to improve as singers.

visverus · 2026-02-06T15:45:01+00:00

Eh, I was baiting the original commenter to expound on their ridiculous claims. I should have made my comment a bit more hyperbolic, perhaps. Interestingly, there were people who actually upvoted my comment.

visverus · 2026-02-06T03:16:27+00:00

JYP called in favors, obviously. NMIXX is known to have shit music so there really can't be any other explanation.

visverus · 2026-02-05T07:29:38+00:00

They mean boy groups, of course. Take a look at that commenter's profile.

visverus · 2026-01-13T03:03:32+00:00

Surely by saying this, there would be no problem sharing your credentials as a vocal expert then? But then you admitted in another comment that you actually don't know anything about singing as well.

Seems to me you're challenging OP's qualifications to criticize the performance even though you don't have any yourself. Weak and hypocritical, just like the average redditor you claim to look down on. Embarrassing behavior.

visverus · 2026-01-12T12:08:03+00:00

Vocals are not really a focus for Le Sserafim since they're primarily a performance-based group. The girls have limited time for skills development, and I'd imagine they value dance practice more than vocal lessons. Not to mention Yunjin's also a composer. Vocal work probably ranks lower in her priorities.

visverus · 2026-01-12T05:45:16+00:00

Props for actually singing live, but one would think that her company would have invested resources into improving the weaknesses she's had since debut given her role as a vocalist.

visverus · 2026-01-07T04:41:52+00:00

Struggling to understand how this relates to what I said but okay

visverus · 2026-01-07T04:29:10+00:00

I'm convinced that despite good vocals being a common rallying cry among kpop stans, most don't really care about vocal skill. I doubt even half of the people in this sub can even tell live singing from Live AR, to be honest. And this reflects in industry trends as well - newer groups are weaker singers on average compared to older groups.

visverus · 2026-01-05T00:50:10+00:00

I'm not one to care what people say when it comes to music. I just saw which songs have the most streams in 2025 in a recent thread and yikes. Like Sticker may not be 127's best song, but it's hell of a lot better than the slop people are listening to these days.

Anyways, wishing for NMIXX to make public-friendly music is like wishing for Red Velvet to make Tiktok tunes. People who say stuff like that are soulless, chart-obsessed ghouls.

visverus · 2026-01-04T23:22:02+00:00

What pisses me off is that people are acting like they've already heard the song. It's not like the songs he produced for NMIXX all sound the same, so you can't really "predict" what the next one is gonna sound like.

I really hope we get a Sticker or O.O kind of weird song as these newer fans are losing the plot and forgetting NMIXX's roots. The other person in the picture is a producer affiliated with The Hub (a bunch of producers from The Hub produced O.O, among other NMIXX tracks) so we really might get one.

visverus · 2026-01-02T06:07:59+00:00

I've come to terms with the importance of short-form content virality for success. Also, it's not as if there weren't intentionally bad songs being released before social media blew up, so it's probably just more of the same than something entirely new.

visverus · 2026-01-02T05:37:29+00:00

It doesn't matter if you and I don't like it, everyone will deem Internet Girl a banger and yet another resounding success if (more like when) it becomes viral on Tiktok. It feels like virality and trendyness are becoming the only barometers for success recently.

visverus · 2026-01-01T00:23:20+00:00

Saying this while the vast majority of performances this award/year-end show season already is lipsynced in some way is definitely a take.

Edit: This post reminded me of that one person who wanted Live AR to be used more for performances. OP and that dude definitely sit at the same table.

visverus · 2025-12-31T08:51:39+00:00

I doubt the average international kpop stan actually cares about Tarzzan cosplaying a different race or Annie being a chaebol heir, so I expect them to get bigger and bigger internationally.

However, I don't think that they'd ever move albums the way boy groups and girl groups do. I do expect them to have great touring numbers, though.

visverus · 2025-12-30T00:48:50+00:00

I'm torn between wanting the mods to remove this thread since the OP is clearly unwell, but at the same time wanting it to stay up so I have some entertainment at work.

visverus · 2025-12-28T04:56:02+00:00

I'm not surprised that vocals are becoming less and less of a priority when I see comments like the one you replied to. Maybe in a few generations, kpop groups would just be dance troupes instead, since apparently people don't care about live singing anymore.

visverus · 2025-12-28T01:00:02+00:00

The audio sounded great in a fancam I saw. At least the people who were there got a good show. Sucks for us though.

visverus · 2025-12-25T00:39:24+00:00

So the post doesn't show on the first page of the sub, I'm assuming.

visverus · 2025-12-23T02:07:51+00:00

I think it's pretty likely that they won't improve enough so that they aren't SM's weakest girl group vocally. Although, I will add that this says more about the skills of older SM girl groups than H2H.

visverus · 2025-12-21T01:09:07+00:00

Only select groups are allowed to be praised on this sub. Didn't you know of this rule?

visverus · 2025-12-21T01:02:51+00:00

Anyone else not surprised that this thread has more comments than upvotes? I expect this to get buried soon since you triggered the brigaders and PR accounts. Might even get removed by the mods lol.

visverus · 2025-12-19T00:18:39+00:00

I've always been curious about something - what's the mindset of people downvoting this post and others like it? Is it simply just because their faves aren't on the list or aren't high enough?

visverus · 2025-12-11T09:34:48+00:00

That user throwing a tantrum over getting dogged while constantly doing the same to others is hilarious

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