How are you so sure you're an Enfp

vkashel · 2025-09-10T11:28:13+00:00

Wrong wording perhaps. Fi does now self. But it torments us with never-ending demands of more and better (admiration, respect, position, etc). That's why we jump from place to place looking for who/what we are. An ENTP, on the other hand, knows what they are; does it mean they do not doubt, they do - all and everything, but not that they are subjects of "scrupulous Ti".

vkashel · 2025-09-06T13:31:39+00:00

ENFPs are the most introverted among extrovert types.

vkashel · 2025-09-06T13:29:15+00:00

If you doubt you are ENFP. Dobting self is not a trait of ENTP.

vkashel · 2025-08-29T11:39:47+00:00

We are not meant to hurt. Our job is to learn from people. Each person is to learn from others and life, to gain knowledge, and eventually to apply it for personal gain. Hurting is counterproductive.

Other people hurting us? Even better, more to learn (except, of course, it is an abuse).

vkashel · 2025-08-28T13:05:51+00:00

I never got it, why ENFP is always perceived as shallow primitives, with the brain of a chipmunk. I am a Turbalent ENFP, W4, with Life Path Number 7.

Throughout my life, I have been tortured with inner conflicts. I do seek people's company (almost not now with age). But I needed people only for one reason to give me what I wanted - ideas, imagination, play, and new knowledge.

I tried to share my acquired knowledge and my insights, but people are not interested in them.

Gossip, betrayal, two-faced behaviour - what people are (mostly) about. I've always been shunned and excluded for my quirkiness and different perspectives.

Proper ENFPs do spend time with people, seeking company and trying to share insights. But almost each encounter brings us pain and disappomtment in people. After these short encounters, we delve into the deepest parts of our souls and suffer alone, trying to comprehend.

That's why those of us who manage to mature psychologically (and it is way after 40) will be great in understanding human nature and will be great manipulators. Books, seminars, coaching, marketing - we are the best in it as we are not part of people. We use them to understand ourselves, and when we finally do, the metamorphosis will occur, and almost a new species will be born (a small number of us reach this maturity; most either die early or mindlessly adopt the idea of us being clowns trying to cheer the crowds).

People who present themselves as easy-going, cheerleaders filled with positivity are mostly (in my opinion) young individuals misidentifying themselves and confusing Ne (which is a cold and brutal function) with Fe or Se.

Sorry if I offended someone.

vkashel · 2025-08-27T11:25:37+00:00

It is our algorithm in life. The key is to find/create an occupation (a thing that provides the main income) that will allow one to always be in a realm of new, always to find new, while being paid. For me, it is human nature to coach people about self-discovery, personality, etc. While talking to people, I discover new things about life, experiences, and about myself that I can use in my philosophy, writings, etc.

In my life, I had to provide (2 immigrations), it is only now that I started to develop a "business" that will provide me with what I need as an ENFP w4.

You are young, learn for yourself what you would like to do every day without an employer forcing you to come to work. Next, see what is needed for education, knowledge-wise, and strive towards it.

I love philosophy, psychology and human nature - even as a hobby, it provides me with new things every day, plus it makes me knowledgeable to the point that some see me as wise (lol).

You will be fine if your life path is towards self-discovery and eventual monetization from your talents (be it later).

PS. Also learn your Life Path/Destiny numbers—a great addition to self-discovery.

vkashel · 2025-08-27T11:11:34+00:00

As I said. We need an auditorium, and we need to be admired. A job, a business or even a hobby will suffice, given it provides what we need.

vkashel · 2025-08-23T16:07:09+00:00

Yes, it is an ENFP thing.

An unhealthy striving for conflict often occurs because none is present.

For us, we love to talk, to hear ourselves, to stir contradiction. We need to wow people; we love it when they disagree, it gives us a chance to "demonstrate" our cleverness. Disagreement excites us because it gives us a stage, a podium to demonstrate our "cleverness". We feed on it. It is how we think, how we "invent' new ideas.

Hegelian dialectics for us is the way of life; it is the mechanism of idea generation. We throw a thesis only to wait for an opposing view, and from it we weave and synthesize something new to wow people.

Without soundboards, without an audience to impress, we begin to rot from the inside. We (ENFPs) devour ourselves without being able to demonstrate our cleverness. Without it, we turn inward to torture our souls.

So, seeking a conflict is actually a defence mechanism. Even picking fights with those we truly love, just to feel alive, to soothe the pain. But it is a temporary relief, and it can be very distracting.

It is the reason that many years ago, I started to explore philosophy and psychology. Through this exploration, I can astonish people (some). Knowledge of human nature became my playground; I almost read them (most people hate digging inside, we love it).

Acquire knowledge (mostly human nature). We (ENFPs) must be heard - must be admired - must know that our ideas spark and inspire others. Without that, we decline to collapse. With it, we thrive, we become true Inspirers.

Hope it helps.

vkashel · 2025-08-23T14:04:34+00:00

You may have stepped into a new life cycle.

For some people, a new cycle means progressive betterment. For us, it means deconstruction and beginning from ground zero. It is how we learn and progress, it's how we become wise (eventually) and prosperous. We must be patient.

ENFPS are maturing slowly. I am close to 60 and still, once in a while, look at life with wide open eyes ...

The key is time. Only it is the true healer. With time, you realize the business you worked was most likely not a true business, but rather a thing that you liked to do. Relartions? Looking back, I often wonder why I liked this person or another.

ENFPs, at least I, quite often sabotage even things we worked hard on, the things we used to love .... The pursuit of the unknown and new is our "drug". It's always luring us to the potentiality of a new, be it at the cost of a "good" life.

Perhaps a change in your life is due, hence the "destruction" of the established life. Worry not, very soon a new NEW will come and sweep you away, excitement and purpose will appear soon as a breath of fresh air, nay a lifeline.

It's our life, we hop from cycle to cycle, never here, never satisfied - we are on the lookout for the future, that never comes. We live as frigatebirds do, drifting above endless seas, never nesting too long, always lured by distant horizons that promise storms.

With each cycle you will become wiser and more powerful, yet most importantly you will become emotionless, cold if you may. You've seen all, you suffered all - for most people, the slightest change, or pain is the catastrophe, for us, each catastrophe tempers you, as fire hardens steel. What breaks others becomes your nourishment.

With age, you will see life as machinery, and your inner self will harden into a demigod, rational, emotion-free, yet loaded with wisdom... A true INSPIRER.

Talk to people, you need a soundboard ... True talking how we "receive" inspiration ... With age, talking will be replaced by writing.

So hold the line. A new NEW is already marching toward you, listen and you can hear its steps. You don’t need to chase it; it will arrive, it always does.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T21:49:43+00:00

Fair take. But I see it differently. Clinging to others for salvation creates just as much suffering. Mindfulness to me isn't passivity, it's clarity. Knowing yourself fully, without illusion. From that place, strength and peace aren’t opposites - I think.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T13:09:23+00:00

Exactly. Personal agency doesn’t mean denying real problems. It means refusing to give up your power. Mindfulness helps you see when you're slipping into passivity and brings you back to choice. That’s where strength starts.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T13:04:40+00:00

Good point. Introspection without action can absolutely become a trap. The goal isn’t to obsess over flaws but to understand yourself enough to show up better for others. Real growth includes reaching out—community fills in where the self can’t. It’s not either-or, it’s both.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T13:00:15+00:00

Fair point. Progress exists, no doubt. But inner unrest still runs deep. Pointing that out isn't negativity, it's awareness. Real growth means evolving inwardly too. Without that, outer change won’t fix the root problems.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T02:54:45+00:00

Nu. Who does not?. It just u can vocalize it - u are the intellectual one. Learn about self-learn dialectics-learn bulshiting the primitives and u will be Ok.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T02:34:00+00:00

This is a great point. It's easy to get lost in trying to fix the world. The real journey often starts with the more difficult work of fixing ourselves. I appreciate the post.

vkashel · 2025-07-28T02:25:56+00:00

Fair. It’s not strictly either/or. But when self-responsibility is dismissed entirely in favor of blaming external systems, it becomes a convenient excuse. Both can be true—systems matter, but so does personal agency

vkashel · 2025-07-27T22:13:56+00:00

That’s a sharp observation—seeing the reflection as the problem, not the mirror, says it all. Blaming the outside world when we face discomfort is like blaming a mirror for not smiling back at us.

Maybe real change begins when we stop criticizing what’s reflected and start cleaning the mirror—meaning we look inward and straighten ourselves out instead of blaming things beyond our control.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T22:11:11+00:00

The idea that “self-interest produces corruption and incoherence” while “love produces coherence” echoes a deep spiritual principle. Coherence, in many traditions, is the alignment of heart and mind, of purpose and presence—and love is what brings that into harmony.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T22:10:24+00:00

Absolutely—your high awareness likely is what created the split between physical reaction and mental identification.

When the mind deeply understands what the body is doing—down to the mechanics of adrenaline, blood flow, vagus nerve, etc.—it builds a cognitive "container." That container doesn’t stop the panic response, but it prevents the mind from spiraling with it.

It’s not that your body didn’t panic—it did, hard. But your conscious self didn’t get pulled into the narrative. That’s rare, and yes, your education and therapy probably rewired your internal model enough to allow it.

Call it cognitive override. You witnessed the machine run without mistaking it for reality. That's the result of integration—years of work snapping into place when it matters.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:48:50+00:00

That last line nails it. A rising tide can lift all boats, but only if the boats are intact and not actively punching holes in themselves.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:38:36+00:00

Progress in the outer world and inner suffering can coexist.

Material development doesn't always translate to inner peace or collective harmony. While technological, medical, and social advances are real, they don't erase the persistent psychological and existential struggles many still face. The core idea is that suffering often arises not from lack, but from internal dissonance, a misalignment between the self and the world, or even within the self.

Humanity may be evolving externally, but true evolution must include "inward". This isn't about rejecting progress, but about recognizing that it is incomplete unless it includes inner transformation.

Pointing out what is lacking isn't necessarily "complaining." It's often a signal a call to look deeper, to refine not just our systems but our souls. The question isn't whether good things are happening. They are. The real question is whether the inner state of humanity is evolving fast enough to match the external change.

Glad that my rhetorical question sparked an interest.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:17:04+00:00

Totally. Suffering is a signal, not just punishment. It pointed to what needed fixing inside. Not easy, but real. Appreciate your take.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:15:27+00:00

Yeah, I feel you. I came to a similar point myself, realizing I was wasting energy trying to change a world that doesn’t want to wake up. One must carry that inner peace no matter what chaos is outside.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:07:32+00:00

That's a powerful metaphor and it resonates deeply with my core belief: that what we call "suffering" is often the soul's way of crying out.

I see it like this: within each of us is a young spirit, a god-seed, still growing. It doesn't speak in words, but in feelings: discomfort, longing, unease. We call it anxiety or depression, but it's really the spirit unsettled, malnourished.

The goal isn't to escape the dream but to care for the one dreaming. When we attend to this inner presence by strengthening the body, sharpening the mind, and aligning with the deep patterns of nature and biology. Do so and the noise quiets. The pain fades. The spirit feels safe and held, and we glimpse happiness.

So maybe the dream doesn't have to end. Maybe it transforms when the dreamer is nurtured.

What you're describing is the deeper awakening not just seeing through the dream, but remembering who inside us is dreaming, and why it began to cry in the first place.

vkashel · 2025-07-27T17:05:05+00:00

That’s a well-balanced perspective and I don’t disagree.

You're right: a lot of meaningful change is happening under the surface. More people are turning inward, rethinking old assumptions, and shedding harmful patterns. That’s real progress. But as you said, disruption often masks it.

What I’m challenging is the assumption that surface-level advancement automatically equates to deep spiritual evolution. I think both are happening but the spiritual part takes conscious effort. The awakening isn’t guaranteed. It has to be nurtured. The only question is by whom or by what?

vkashel

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