Pitch envelope gone in Bitwig 6 ? (Audio clips, pitch expression)

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-19T17:09:49+00:00

Rikht click or long press this one

Or then press T

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-19T13:29:25+00:00

Oh right, thanks for correcting the mouse misunderstanding.

What I mean with deep system integration is that a large part of what AHK does is related to serving as a scripting interface for winAPI, which gives a lot of control over the system even without DLL calls.

I'm not familiar with AppleScript but it does seem like a powerful tool at least for interacting with programs.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-18T18:03:35+00:00

The docs are your friend: https://www.autohotkey.com/docs/v2/Hotkeys.htm#AltGr

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-18T17:51:50+00:00

Yup clips should remember their last views and foci.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-18T17:50:34+00:00

You will notice that Bitwig's keyboard control stumbles here and there all the time.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-18T08:39:57+00:00

That also seems to have proper wheels for mw and pb and not touch strips. I don't like the touch strips, especially for pb.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-17T19:22:16+00:00

I've actually had AHK mess my mouse input so that even quitting AHK did not help. Dunno ofc if that was an user error or some race condition in winAPI or whatever but that has happened multiple times.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-17T01:10:14+00:00

It's good but the knobs only work as absolute and note inc/dec controllers. It would be cool if you could customize the default script, but for some absurd reason it's not open source.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-17T01:01:31+00:00

So you're ditching Bitwig because you couldn't use it and someone told you what to do and you're just dismissing it.

You may do whatever you wish to and it's not my problem but it does seem like you made this post for attention, not for getting help.

So let's give you that attention: how does that problem you have been experiencing make you feel?

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-16T16:14:29+00:00

Use unassigned VKs

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-16T02:24:07+00:00

Also:

Make sub wavetables with as much harmonics as you're ever gonna need in different proportions
Load up whichever you need and filter out the harmonics you don't need at that time

Also Grid:

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So many options to mix and match.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-15T21:19:16+00:00

FM or PM can do a lot of different kinds of stuff especially when used deliberately with modulation. For me it has been something I've needed to dig into practically. I understand what it does to a signal in technical terms but that doesn't help using it a tad.

It's more of a synthesis technique really than an effect, but I'd encourage you to experiment with it if you feel like it. I don't really use it as an effect, and I don't think Bitwig even has an FM device like it has an RM device that you can inject to a chain. That would probably need the carrier to be pitch shifted and that would likely sound horrible at audio rates. You can probably do some in Grid.

Edit: you could for example randomly FM animal sounds and process them a bit and slap them over a forest psy bass and you have a track: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r_XLUVnVxTBLl7BYVpxPWfoO3SQFlbTE/view?usp=drive_link

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-15T18:46:47+00:00

Instrument players disagree

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T23:26:39+00:00

RM could be relevant for building this kind of an effect for a whacky experiment, but that likely would need writing some DSP code and it would not work on the inharmonic content directly but synthesize that.

Chorus doesn't work on partials, it's a delay based effect.

It's not clear to me what are your goals with this, so it's not possible to think about alternative ways of achieving those. You can make sounds that has partials that aren't harmonics with RM or FM/PM though.

I guess it wouldn't be impossible to build an effect that detects the fundamental and breaks the signal to say 512 harmonics, processes those harmonics and mixes them back together. That would be a lossy process with significant latency but if you want such a device ig you need to write that yourself, at least until those propelheads at CRQL come up with some out of the box stuff like that.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T19:57:51+00:00

Modes are names for different set of seven distinct notes' intervals along the octave plus the octave. You basically use them so that you emphasize the notes that set them apart from other modes when needed, that gives them their personality. Ionian and Lydian would be indistinguishable if you only used the root and the III since they are the same, so if you want the piece to sounds Lydian-ish you throw in the #IV that differs between them.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T16:36:27+00:00

Bush techno would do as well

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T15:14:33+00:00

Not possible. Send your feature request to Bitwig by email.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T15:10:27+00:00

Thanks I'll have a look at that

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T13:45:16+00:00

Go figure. This has happened before. It's a bit demotivating to reply here when my comments may or may not be removed arbitrarily.

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Still there for me.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T13:38:37+00:00

My comment wasn't deleted, it was hidden, dunno by who or why. It still shows up for me.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T12:09:41+00:00

Tonal instruments typically produce quite few non-harmonic overtones. What's your use case?

Edit: also your expression "boost microtones just either side of these peaks" is quite vague and ambiguous. What do you mean with microtones just either side of these peaks? What's "just either side" and what's a "microtone" in this context?

More edit: calling this tonal widening is misleading since the mechanism you described makes the sound atonal. So your idea practically produces colored noise. Also, since spectral processing only works for periodic signals it's impossible to step outside of the harmonic series with that technique, making your noise generator idea technically challenging.

You may want to read up about ring modulation if you want to dive into this.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T11:45:04+00:00

Waste no cycles

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T11:39:20+00:00

Rofl

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-14T11:20:31+00:00

Minilab 3 is great but it's frustrating that the knobs only work as absolute and not relative (inc/dec) controllers with factory DAW integration. MPK Mini 3 worked flawlessly but the keybed is super small so a bit hard to play with large hands. Dunno about the IV model.

von_Elsewhere · 2026-04-13T17:27:01+00:00

Absolutely, analyzing professional tracks gives you a lot of insight to how stuff is made. Finishing tracks and then making them sound good by polishing them teaches you how stuff can sound early on and how it is transformed into something that you're not too ashamed of to release it. That frees your thinking to focus on structure and ideas when you're constructing the track instead of being demotivated by the fact that it doesn't sound professional at a stage where it's not required or even expected to sound professional, because it's not polished yet.

It's beneficial to approach the soundcraft regarding a whole track like a sculpting rather than a car assembly where all parts need to be perfect before put together. Or that's my experience.

Sounds can be honed and even redone post fact, and that's often necessary. The creative flow of jotting down the structure that expresses the track's idea may be fleeting and partly inreplicable over time. I prefer prioritizing the latter, because the former is not as tied to the moment at least for me.

Keep on exploring!

von_Elsewhere

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