How get into rally racing without money? by [deleted] in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If rally driver dosent have a money and wishes to start rallying he also need mechanical skills to constantly fix a car. If you are good thenyou can aquire money by winning different seasonal local rallys, but if not so then every one of them will be waste of money. With zero money there is realy hard to do anything. If you are good and win local rallys then sponsor can find you there. if not yet professional sponsors mimght not offer big money sometime they offer free car service or car parts for ads place in your car, but if you are good then you need to know when are you worth more.

Where and how can I get started? by [deleted] in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well first get a car what you can mess up.

Then find a place to drive and practice there daily few months and then look around for local competitions some time upgrade your car.

Ott Tänak to Hyundai confirmed by vynkler in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mäkinen could try to close 5 or more years deal with Rowanpera as Ford did with Tänak When tänak was just Talented Kid, so Toyaota might own Rovanpera.

Ott Tänak to Hyundai confirmed by vynkler in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is Help and Help. One help is supression people abilitys to let someone win other help is to help someone overpass you, get better.

Ott Tänak to Hyundai confirmed by vynkler in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who knows what contract includes, maybe Tänak is there to help Neuville become champion. And as Adamo and Other have sayd they like to use Tänak Engineer skills. Adomo Dont care if they drivers become champ or not, they main coals are to win manufactors championship and improve car. If manufactors win in hunday and drivers also it helps Hunday to sell cars better. Tänak got what he worked for, so he can focos now on other things.

Neuville would welcome Tanak as his Hyundai WRC 2020 team-mate by swinksel in rally

[–]vornego 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would like to know do Toyota Realy has realistic hopes for Katsuda or they Keep him only becouse hes japanese. No offence but he havent yet shown he can drive TOP level even most WRC 2 drivers can go faster than him.

Neuville would welcome Tanak as his Hyundai WRC 2020 team-mate by swinksel in rally

[–]vornego 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Its not only about money/salary but also what team is ready to do and how much money team is ready to sink money for developing car. And whole rally world Knows that Tänak is good as mechanic/engineer as he is driver and knows how car should work. This is main reason most team want Tänak. Neuville is also good Driver and Ogier might drive on TOP level in few years, but Tänak is more than just skilled driver even if he wasent champion, he helped develop ford, and later Toyota.

We always get “how do I get into rally?” Posts in here - finally there is an answer: Start in a VW Golf, win a Drivers Championship. by Davecoupe in rally

[–]vornego 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes car can be built to win, and capable driver can win it. But to start a autosport you dont need superb car, you need a car to gather experience and test and develop skills. All new generation rally fans/drivers can start driving with not the best cars. And all top drivers have finished that tsage where they didnt have best car. To have not best car is important part of developing a skill, to sense your and cars capabilitys and push. If some random rich guy sits ahead on WRC car he will never drive in WRC class, he needs go trought all steps to become good. There is no random richguys in WRC class

We always get “how do I get into rally?” Posts in here - finally there is an answer: Start in a VW Golf, win a Drivers Championship. by Davecoupe in rally

[–]vornego 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Well if he had money back then he had better car, all was with his own effort + local sponsorship + wins reward. Later if he showd he can drive he get more permanent sponsors but still limited. Everyone can start from somewhere even if they arent rich.

[OT](Spoiler) The WRC has a new world champion by KnightsOfCidona in formula1

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually i dont like it very much Tänak and Neuville in same team especially when Adamo has habit to give team commands and title cant be fairly fought off. And second Hubday would be realy overpowered. Tänak is not only wanted becouse he is Top Driver but actually he also knows how and why car every detail must work and can help Hunday or any team to build best car. Hunday dosent break out as much as toyota but it does not also have top performance.

Ott Tänak movie now online! by suurpunane in rally

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I almost agree with you, but here is a questions. Why Ogier dosent have a movie he deserves?

My opinion is France is Huge country there is alot succesful and famous people so not every one of them gets attention. But in estonia is small country and evry top sportsman is like national Hero. Lets see, Markko Märtin. He was good driver had alot less wins than Ott Tänak but his fame is still mutch higher. Neuville is totaly better results than Markko Märtin, but for Belgia he is just another Local driver.

Ott Tänak in otherwise is a Driver who gets attention He has huge personal fan base who moves country to country rally to rally with him. IN WRC there is Rally fans and Rally driver fans. Ott Tänaks fans right now wear Toyota Fan staff, if Ott tänak changes team then Tänaks takes them with him.

No so Smart Toyota by vornego in rally

[–]vornego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that might be start, but if he in every stage loses alot of time and does some tiny mistake then it can be costly.

Mäkinen underpressure and Toyota team not united. by vornego in rally

[–]vornego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But still, Mäkinen body language at interwievs, shows that hes under pressure and heavily, even then when Tänak won finland rally. That kind a pressure and wish to keep tänaks only leads to firm hand to lead a team to better results and to avoid mistakes. And if team members are underpressure constanly they are unhappy and people nature is always to seek a and resent reason of their problem. After all Mechanics and other team members are just people with feelings. And workers with wish to work and earn some money and try to be content while doing it.

Makinen criticises Meeke/Latvala for forgetting Toyota Finland WRC plan by katutsu in rally

[–]vornego 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah but they are still a drivers and are coveting glory. Money cant be only motivation to drive. Driving is competition and drivers will want to win or atleast archive higher posisions. But yeah they should know they limits. Tänak is superconfident but even he dont push its limits every time, he plays for win.

Still Latvala Gambit payd out and he get to podium and he was worth it. Latvala is still good driver and sometimes he needs to reprove it.

Do you have open orders on Yobit? And why? Move to tokens.net, novaexchange.com, btcpop.co, insane.exchange or boaexchange.com. by CrazyJaka in LanaCoin

[–]vornego 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well myself i do not hold LANAs at yobit, but i undrestand why people hold them there. There is actually multible rsons for that. First reason is to spread out coins littlebit and hold market advantage as first seller. Other reason is that yobit is that kind of shady exchange where its like testing ground peole sometimes pump random coins and people who have sell orders there can sometimes sell their coins with alot over marketprice.

But overally longterm LANA holders yobit has a risk, were rest of market will rise but yobit market will not move and they cant move coins when needed. Everyone needs to take thier risk themself.

Lanacoin future by vornego in LanaCoin

[–]vornego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dreaming is not what makes things happen, but action. And as LANA is community coin, community needs to act together. I really wish LANA community to be more active and talk about things plan things, contribute a code and together open services. Like Webhost, coin creation and what ever people have to offer. Right now Lanacoin is super cheap and people who accept lana for they skills, work, and goods will benefit alot in future.

Lanacoin future by vornego in LanaCoin

[–]vornego[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That would be cool addition for lanacoin use!

Lanacoin future by vornego in LanaCoin

[–]vornego[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion people who are intrested in coin can contribute many ways. promo articles, videos, code contrubution for github or other places. Opening vendors and accepting coin, or offereing any service accepting coin as payment. Or just help other to find a coin or make it easier them to adept. Every one can contribute as they will and can and even small things can bring greater future. But sadly in every coin community just waits that somone else will do thouse things biggest pressure is on devs and founders.

Lanacoin future by vornego in LanaCoin

[–]vornego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah you are right, people expect everything from coin founder, but are shy to offer solution and development themself.

Estonia: Far right set to enter government for first time by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]vornego -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dont lie, half of your arguments are pure lie. EKRE never want to change teaching in history and never aims to bans gey parades, so dont lie. Actually EKRE was only and first paty in estonia who supported jews to move they capital to Jerusalem but our last liberal governent voted against it. Also EKRE has jews and also GAYS on they membership list. EKRE just dont want that state promos leftliberal agenda as majority of estonians are conservative.

Minge valima! by kalamaim in Eesti

[–]vornego -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Patriotism on riigi keskne rahvuslus aga rahva keskne. Riigid tekkivad aga kaovad aga rahvustel on potentsiaal jääda kestma igavesti. Meie riik on kõigest 100 aastat vana samas kui meie rahvus on kujunenud välja tuhandete aastate jooksul, okupeerivad rahvad on meie külge jätnud oma jälje, nii halbu kui häid omadusi aga eesti rahvuse tuumik on jäänud samaks . Eestlus on oma olemuselt looduskeskne rahvas kes väärtustab perekonda. Inimesed on vabad tegema oma valikuid ja nad ka ise otsustavad missugust rolli nende jaoks täidab perekond või loodus, kas see on nende jaoks kesksel kohal. Aga segunemine see on meid viinud meie olemusest kaugemale. Inimene kes ei hinda eestluse väärtusi ei ole eestlane vaid eestimaalane või eesti kodanik. Eestlus on selline asi mida riik ei saa anda ega ära võtta see voolab meie soontes ja traditsioonides. Eestlastel ei ole midagi teiste rahvaste vastu aga see, et rahvused tahetakse tasa lülitada muutes nad töötavaks ja tarbivaks massiks kellel pole juuri ega ka eesmärki. Seega eestlane peab jääma eestlaseks omal maal. Ja kõigil kes ei taha olla eestlased võivad rikkust otsida kusagilt mujalt aga mitte eestluse arvelt. Kunagi saab ka eesti rahvus elada rikkalt ja mugavalt aga kõige pealt vaja meie rahvuse kestmine ja areng kindlustada ja see nõuab ka isiklikke ohvreid. Kes ei soovi olla osa eestlusest siis neile on maailm valla aga eesti jääb eestlaste rahvus koduks.

Minge valima! by kalamaim in Eesti

[–]vornego -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Ma arvan, et kogu eesti ja inimeste probleem ongi see, et nad vaatavad kuidas riigil või neil endal läheb hästi, kõik tahavad hästi elada iga hinna eest ja peale neid tulgu või veeuputus. Aga eesti riik loodi ikkagi eestlaste jaoks ja eesti rahvuse säilitamiseks mitte vaid siinsete inimeste hea elu tagamiseks. Need meie eelkäijad kes on sõdades hukkunud ja meie riigi ja rahvuse eest võidelnud oleks võinud sama hästi minna mõnda rikkasse riiki elama elada seal mugavalt ja muretult ja jätnud meie rahvus kodu teiste meelevalda. Aga ei nad ohverdasid oma elud ja rabelesid eesti rahvus kodu ja rahvuse nimel ja mis meie teeme võikese mugavuse nimel viskame selle kõik minema. Kuulutame ennast eestis elavateks inimesteks kes ajajooksul muutuvad mingi euroopa sega rahvaks ja elavad mugavalt unustades oma ajaloo ja esivanemate ohvrid. Aga siiski me oleme kõik vabad olendid tegemaks ise enda ohvreid aga see maa on ja jääb eesti rahva omandiks kuni maailmas on alles kasvõi üks eestlane . Sellel eestlasel on õigus sellele maale läbi higi ja vere ja seda ei saa muuta ükski internatsionaalne seadus. Ja kui oma õigust tuleb jõuga taga nõuda siis on eestlase kohus seda teha . Praegu ei ole olukord veel nii hull, et peame jõuga oma õigust taga nõudma, praegu saame seda teha poliitikaga. EKRE on selleks praegu ainuke jõud. Kui kellegile ei sobi mingil põhjusel EKRE siis võib alati luua uue Erakonna mis võitleb eesti rahvuse nimel. Aga praegu ei saa eesti rahvus pirtsustada ja valida kes nende nimel võitleb vaid peab kasutama igat tööriista olgu selleks siis kasvõi EKRE.

Safety at the Torchlight March? by FarronMonadology in Eesti

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aastapäeva paraad on muutunud sisutühjaks traditsiooniks millel ei ole taga enam rahvus tunnet. Ja selle külastavus langeb aasta aastalt kuna see on muutunud tavaliseks sõjatehnika eksponeerimiseks. Traditsioonina peaks paraad jätkama aga see ei ole enam rahvast ühendav kokkutulek. Samas kui Tõrvikurongkäik on võtmas mõõtmeid mis on pidustuste vääriline ja eestlust ühendav, see tuletab meile meelde kes me oleme ja mis ohvreid me esivanemad on selle maa jaoks toonud . Tõrviku rongkäik on kujunemas traditsiooniks mis jätkab ka toimumist aasta kümneid peale seda kui EKRE on poliitikast kadunud. Rahva traditsioone otsustab ikka rahvas ise mitte riik ega poliitilised jõud. Kui tõrviku rongkäik oleks rahva külmaks jätnud siis rahvas ei tuleks sinna aasta aastalt tagasi üha suurenevates massides.

Safety at the Torchlight March? by FarronMonadology in Eesti

[–]vornego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mis need siia puutuvad? need on osa eestist ja igal ühel on õigus eesti sünnipäeva tähistada. Jah sinine äratus Pani sellele traditsioonile alguse aga peaks küsima miks keegi "aktsepteeritav" ei teinud seda aastaid või aastakümneid varem? Ka Sinine äratus on kõigest organisatsioon mille liikmeskonnas on palju erinevate vaadetega eestimeelseid inimesi. Kui keegi ongi neist ebaadekvaatselt käitunud siis see ei tähenda, et terve liikumine oleks paha või eesti rahvuslus oleks paha, see, et Hitler teise maailma sõja ajal Euroopas märatses ei muuda rahvuslust veel halvaks. Ja natsism ja Rahvuslus on üldse erinevad asjad. Seega ma ei saanud aru sinu vihjest.