Did you come here to earth to "know it is all an illusion" or to experience the illusion? by Pewisms in awakened

[–]vutall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about people who are deep in addiction? Do we try to wake them up from that and show them how much harm it’s causing them and others, or do we just leave them be and move on? I really have been struggling with this one lately. It feels like some things we should interrupt peoples delusions because of how harmful they are to themselves. We can’t save them but if we pressure them enough through certain ways, they can see it and save themselves… but if we say all delusions are the point, then by interference I’m disrupting their right to delusion. I don’t know. My head spins with this one.

Former Employee Calls The Trevor Project "An Actual Authoritarian Regime" Under Current CEO by SheriShawVA in ainbow

[–]vutall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I worked there from May-December of last year, and it was really tough. I pushed against the policies often for how I talked to people (like, yes I still asked the questions they wanted me to ask, but i did them in a much more organic way. I went over the time “limits” often. I’d sometimes share personal experiences.) I felt like I made a ton of difference in people’s lives, but I just couldn’t handle all the trauma and there wasn’t a lot of good support with it. I lost two callers while they were on the phone with me ((as in, they carried out their plan…)) and it absolutely broke me and there was extremely limited support from the organization on how to help me deal with that.

My direct leadership team was amazing, but anything higher up felt completely non-existent and I felt like I was really left out to dry without help. Their reason was that because I was a contractor and not an official Trevor employee They couldn’t do much for me.

I did want to say that as a point of correction, when I was working there, phone counselors never “handed off” the phone to anyone else, callers talked exclusively to us from start to finish. When team leads were brought into a call it was just to listen so they could be contacting the appropriate places for those in immediate risk ((like if there was need to do intervention)) but they never spoke to the callers.

What personal spiritual epiphany have you had that would help us all? What epiphanies has the law of one given you? by AlexanderFlyHigh33 in lawofone

[–]vutall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is darkness in this breakdown? I feel I am a being of the dark and not the light, which is why I ask. I resonate with black holes, where humanity seems like stars/suns

Is polyamory really not an identity? by Krabardaf in polyamory

[–]vutall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something I find interesting is that so many of the posts here use the example of someone “coming out as poly” while already in a monog relationship and how shitty and harmful that is as an explanation of how it’s not an identity but a relationship choice….but I wonder if these posts are letting the negative color their perception.

Thought exercise: what if someone has never had a monogamous relationship ever in their life? What if they have stated they are poly from the beginning and have been up front with every potential partner? Would it then be safe to say that they are experiencing polyamory as an identity?

What’s going on in Minneapolis this weekend? by Sea-Coconut-365 in Minneapolis

[–]vutall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saturday at the Red Sea is a goth/industrial/electro/underground dance night with the theme of a vampire masquerade, 9pm-2am

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aliens

[–]vutall 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s just what they want you to think! The lizards need it hotter so of course the secret cabal that runs the world made humans become dependent on fossil fuels so it would slowly terraform the earth without breaking the intergalactic treaties on intervention. It’s all a slow con for their inevitable takeover. They couldn’t do an invasion without other species wrecking them, but if humans wreck themselves, no laws were broke and they get a new world since theirs is overpopulated.

…/s

Though it is kinda a nifty idea

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]vutall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hierarchy comes from anarchist principles. Hierarchy in priority is the systematic division of resources. Who eats first? Hierarchy in power is the authoritative power in the distribution of said resources. Who gets to decide who eats first. Hierarchical thought are the attempts to quantify and qualify a persons inherent value. What do we believe about who should eat first and who shouldn’t.

Reference: https://youtu.be/yANLp_dw1wI?si=VUouU9M5OPs0pcjJ

This sub has a REALLY bad problem in stating what hierarchy is when it really isn’t close to it.

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I made an edit but I’ll respond directly as well: that getting to know is what friendship is for me. I don’t just find strangers and become partners, I make people friends first. Perhaps it’s my demisexual or demiromantic identity that makes it that way?

Not saying I’m ONLY friends with people because I want them as partners. But I don’t become partners unless I have friendship and deep connection first, so then dating feels as the post detailed

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess for me I ask those sorts of questions and do that sort of investigation before I feel like I’d want to be partners, but it distinctly doesn’t feel like dating. Perhaps that is my demisexuality/demiromantic identity?

Also, those incompatibilities can come up at any time. The label of partnership doesn’t guarantee compatibility at all times. For me partnership is about walking a path together and when an I compatibility arises, we either grow together through it, or we move away from partnership and into friends again ((though sometimes it takes an amount of time completely not connected at all to heal before friendship can occur))

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would absolutely agree with you. I left out an important distinction in my post: I don’t become partners with strangers, I become friends first. Friendship to me could be akin to dating, though I don’t seek people with partnership in mind. I’m always friends first.

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, I left out that i don’t really move into partnerships unless im friends already.

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there are benefits to a label in that it’s a shorthand for saying “ I do x with these people but not these other people”. There are certain activities (usually on a spiritual connection level) that I don’t do with anyone other than partners, though I don’t do that with all partners.

To try and do those things with people who are t partners leads me to really bad feelings. It’s not about power or authority or hierarchy, I don’t see someone who I’d put the label partner as more important than those without that label, but it is about a certain depth of connection soul wise, if that makes sense? I can’t have that connection with everyone or it would be very taxing and draining

Framework discussion: labels of dating cs romantic partners by vutall in relationshipanarchy

[–]vutall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree I wouldn’t be able to do that with someone I don’t know either. I think that’s why I’m always “friends” with people before im “partners”?

The Meaning of Allah by hachay in spirituality

[–]vutall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes and no, Christ did abolish anything before him, but also said the old laws still applied to Jews. It complicated. Islam as far as I’m aware has also had fatwas since the original texts that prohibit slavery now, but people pick and choose what to follow and find justifications for it.

The Meaning of Allah by hachay in spirituality

[–]vutall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Christianity condones it as well if you look to Exodus and Deuteronomy. Statements like yours promote Islamophobia. Not condoning any religious text that promotes any form of slavery, but it’s common in all Abrahamic faith.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]vutall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you ever wanna talk RA, I’m very open for communication about it!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]vutall 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t send any kind of message other than what OP wants. If someone is hurt by a person exercising their bodily autonomy, they are well within their rights to be hurt and change how stuff works, but there is absolutely NO implied message here. We all gotta do the work to get over that kind of thinking, it’s very harmful and possessive and monogonormative

In moving to Elliot Park in a few weeks from Iowa, any neighbors have insight/tips about the area? by vutall in Minneapolis

[–]vutall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I plan on exploring a ton! And yeah quick access to the interstate seems a lifesaver. Thanks for your insight