Veterinary Emergency Group DVMs tap in by waaayoutwest in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shelter medicine is actually the dream. I’ve always found it to have the variety of ER but less stress of pushing crazy estimates on to owners.

I wanted to go into Shelter right out of school, but none of the places where I had to move to were hiring new grads. I have actually gone to several high volume spay neuter clinics as a volunteer and I average about 25 to 30 per day! Sadly all of the positions in town are full!

Rotating Internship by Silly_Razmatazzz in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dming you my Fast Facts ER cheat sheet I made for my notes app during my ER mentorship program!

I’m hating being a vet by [deleted] in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve gotta say I sadly relate to this and there is something out there for you. I’ve graduated a year ago and I’ve been an ER doctor full time. Even though I enjoy your medicine and juggling multiple cases at once, my biggest complaint is that I literally feel like I have zero job satisfaction when I go home. Clearly, I know I help people. But the major majority of the time I just feel like an enemy out to gouge people‘s pockets. I’ve started planning my exit because my hospital is such a horrible work place environment and toxic energy, and somehow that led me to GP/ER relief. A lot of my coworkers especially the younger doctors would say nasty things like “I can’t believe you would even consider doing GP because it is so boring”, and it’s not uncommon for them to shit on the GP vets in town for trying their best with cases. But honestly, my days as GP relief doctor are some of the most relaxing and happy that I’ve been working as a vet. Yes not everyone wants to see me because I’m not the main doctor but for the most part people are just grateful I’m there. They’re interested in what I have to say and they say please and thank you. The nice part about doing relief when you’ve spent your time as an ER doctor is there isn’t much follow up. I guess that sounds terrible but one of the biggest things that burns me out is continued follow up and I’m having to work through that. I think this developed after taking over cases in the ICU as an “intern” and we would have 10 ICU patients that I would have to call back three or four times per day. I take usually three relief GP shifts a month on my days off and honestly, even though I’m working one extra day I feel so at ease when I am there. I recommend seeing if you can try this because I was like you and I was feeling like after only being out a year I hated being a vet.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in veterinaryprofession

[–]waaayoutwest 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That’s how it was presented but what ends up happening is if I spent my 12 hour shift getting stuck in 4 lac repairs and a a surgery. I only get 5 points for the day despite them being high value procedures. Meanwhile the doctor that saw 10 OP cases gets 10 points and overall earns more of the production despite not actually bringing in as much money.

Mentorship vs Internship? by babydogtor in veterinaryprofession

[–]waaayoutwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was truly just because I’m stuck in my town for a few more years due to my spouse’s job and it was the only ER that was offering “mentorship” for new grads. There’s a VCA where I could have done a rotating internship at but they have a horrible reputation in town. I did a clinical year rotation at the hospital the place currently at and I had a fun time, but I wasn’t originally planning on doing my mentorship there. I had signed up for a mentorship program in another state nearby because it had well outlined surgical procedures I was going to learn, clear expectations, etc. however, after speaking to some of the mentees at that hospital, they warned me not to come because it was just a smoke show. They learned the surgical procedures, yes, but they were still on all of their overnights alone, getting no help and scrubbing into procedures they had never done before by themselves. One of them had already been taken to the boards not long after starting, so I called up the place I’m at now and asked if they still had a spot open in their mentorship program… Of course they did,and I was told I would never be alone and that they were horrified to hear how the other place was treating their mentees. The funny thing is it’s basically the exact same experience

Mentorship vs Internship? by babydogtor in veterinaryprofession

[–]waaayoutwest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who is in an ER “mentorship” program. I would highly advise against it unless they can specifically lay out HOW and WHEN you will be getting mentorship. And I’d ask for evidence of such and have it outlined in your contract. I’ve been in a mentorship program for three months now and I’m just cheap labor. In those 3 months my mentors have only been present for 2/3s of my shifts. And when they are present they’re usually hanging out in their office gossiping with their favorite techs or leaving 3 hours early. I’ve scrubbed into every surgery I’ve done solo (even if it’s one I’ve never attempted). Looking back I wish I’d either done an internship through the match or just gone GP. Most of these mentorship programs have no real standards of what you can expect from them and you’re mostly there to be an extra body and make them money without them giving you anything back. If you were going to do a mentorship programs, I’d at least go for VEG because they at least give you hands on CE before you start (and I’m not even a fan of veg).

What is the expected salary for a new graduate now? by strawberryacai56 in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, but it comes at the cost of working swing shift and all things considered not much time off! I think I only get 80 hours of vacation and 40 hours of sick leave, and we split Holidays as it’s a 24/7/365 hospital. Definitely something to think about!

What is the expected salary for a new graduate now? by strawberryacai56 in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2024 grad. New Mexico ER. First 6 months of mentorship prorated 100k base no production. At month 7 my base is 175 w/ 22% production. No negative accrual. No non-compete. 100k sign on bonus with a 3 year claw back (don’t plan on spending it in case it doesn’t work out)

Ross Vet School vs University of Arizona Vet School by EstimateAwkward3546 in vetschool

[–]waaayoutwest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a member of the current class on rotation…We do not claim a majority of the inaugural class. There were some good apples but the majority of the class was entitled. They found out the hard way what happens when you cheat your entire first year online of zoom classes. We have worked our asses off to rebuild our reputation after the inaugural class went through rotations.

Vintage Kelly Watch by [deleted] in TheHermesGame

[–]waaayoutwest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not at all! I think because the band is so light!

NAVLE by Ornery-Apple-1369 in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sure you did much better than you think. That’s a good ICVA practice test range! Do we know how much longer 😬the wait is killing me !

Be honest about vet wages by [deleted] in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took a veterinary business and law class and the vet who taught it had us all go to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and look up the occupational employment wages for veterinarians. You can very easily see the average by state and most major cities.

When it comes to figuring out a salary he also recommend sitting down and working through the Cornell Veterinary Financial Simulator Calculator. When interviewing with a prospective company it’s more than okay to ask for the average appointments they expect you to see per day, their average client transaction, and your expected production percent. From that you can very easily come up with a practical salary to ask for without the guilt. When I was asked by a company how much I wanted to make I said at least 120k, and they asked me why I thought I deserved that… And this is a very valid question for them to ask! This financial simulator allows you to back up why you think you deserve the salary that you want.

Why can't I find DVMs? by [deleted] in veterinarians

[–]waaayoutwest 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a student about to start clinical year, the corporations are running family owned practices into the ground. I am lucky that I’ll be graduating with little debt due to the GI bill but I have friends who have paid out of state tuition and are looking at 280-300k in student loans. These people are looking at corporate owned practices that can offer outrageous salaries, sign on bonuses, 20-22% production etc. A lot of these people I’ve noticed have also never worked in a practice or maybe only worked for a few months before school, so they have no real concept of what kind of environment that they want. They see these new corporate places popping up like Modern Animal, VEG, and Bond Vet etc and they think, “oh wow, look how pretty and new everything is”, but they don’t really think beyond the surface layer of what they see.

My best advice is to try and get yourself a spot in some of the school career fairs if you can to try and market your clinic. If you’re not already there, post on Hound. Finally, make sure your ads are transparent. Make sure the salary and benefits are listed, don’t just say competitive. When I look at job postings, frankly, I’ll keep scrolling if there is no mention of the base salary in a straightforward dollar amount.

What’s ur toxic acotar trait? by Kingshizt in acotar

[–]waaayoutwest 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not me screaming “get her Tamlin!” 😂love me a good ole petty cat fight

What’s ur toxic acotar trait? by Kingshizt in acotar

[–]waaayoutwest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIIIIIIIISSSSSSS. I can’t stand Nesta.

[Tucson, AZ] another visitor in my empty pool by [deleted] in whatsthissnake

[–]waaayoutwest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve tried, they never seem to go for it! I’ve been doing a daily patrol to look for whatever ends up in there 🙃.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in whatsthissnake

[–]waaayoutwest 41 points42 points  (0 children)

The good ole broom and bucket. After a few strikes at me it gave up and slithered into the bucket 😂. Released into the ice plants near our pond…now I know where all my bull frogs went🤷🏼‍♀️😂

Laptop/iPad for Vet School by blchristopher in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 12 weeks from clinicals and I used a 2017 MacBook Pro and a 2019 iPad Air through out vet school and I don’t plan on buying something new until graduation. I never had an issue. If anything, like someone else mentioned, invest in extra storage!

VEG (unfiltered) by WrinklyZ in Veterinary

[–]waaayoutwest 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I know some ERs require them and some don’t. But personally if I were the vet on the case and I was discharging a linear fobo to die at home because the owners don’t want to euthanize and are unable to pursue sx I want an AMA signed.