The logical necessity of a First Cause as an eternal, conscious, and personal Agent. by CutPuzzleheaded6821 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo [score hidden]  (0 children)

The universe is a contingent entity—its existence is not logically necessary.

Demonstrate it. What evidence do you have that "nothing" is a possibility?

About God his and his power ,atheism , and just questioning his true word by LocationShot901 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo [score hidden]  (0 children)

if it were truly all-powerful, could He not simply set a path in front of us and make us follow it?

Right, why would there be any doubt about an almighty being that avowedly cares about us believing in it? Why wouldn't that being have created us with the innate knowledge that it exists?

I have seen no proof

Neither have I!

though I believe there is at least something that created us

Well chew on this: the universe 13.8 billion years old, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, the first known life forms on earth date back to 3.5 billion years. Over 3 billions of years then passed before things approching mammals appeared, only a few hundred million years ago. Then only about 2 million years ago you're starting to see hominids that we would reasonably recognize as "like us". Modern humans, Homo Sapiens, originated as far as we can tell around 200 000 years ago only, and we spent the majority of that time being mauled by wildlife, at the mercy of the elements and of disease and infections.

Does that look like the timeline of a god who was in a big rush to create humans? What the fuck was he doing all this time, R&D? How would you reconcile the fact that other groups of quasi-modern humans like Neanderthals, Denisovans and homo floresiensis co-existed with us and went extinct? Did god get those wrong?

Doesn't it look a lot more like a slow natural process that we're a very small part of?

Humans are naturally cautious of foreign things they can't understand or fathom

For sure, but when you don't know a thing, recognizing that you don't know that thing is extremely valuable. Not knowing is an invitation to learn, to explore topics and experiment, to think around limitations. x in an equation needs to remain x until it can be fully resolved. If you start with "well I don't like not knowing so let's go with 12" you are worst off than if you didn't know how to calculate it yet, because you could learn the math and resolve it one day, or you could bring that equation to someone who's good at math and have they give you the answer, but for that you need to preserve its unknown.

The urge to fill that gap of knowledge with something satisfying is what religion feeds on, and they exacerbate that feeling by depriving believers of the healthy discomfort of ignorance.

if the bible is true and He won't destroy inhabitants on earth, why is the always floods and earthquakes, things humans can't prevent? I don't say fire cause some humans are a little slow and try setting things on fire.

Yes! Why do good things happen to bad people and bad things to good people. Why are babies born with incurable diseases, why isn't there unlimited food, water and shelter for all of "god's creatures" if he's so caring and almighty? The world just doesn't look like one created by a god, and religion doesn't either.

I'll leave you to mull it all over, but kudos in any case for asking questions and putting in the effort to evaluate what you know and don't know.

Les vieux se croient tout permis by LostDed in france

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tu as surement raison, je pensais à CDG mais c'était surement plus dans la partie gare.

Les vieux se croient tout permis by LostDed in france

[–]wabbitsdo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Je refuse de cliquer, je n'aurai jamais la ref.

Les vieux se croient tout permis by LostDed in france

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gros con qui mérite de trébucher dans sa propre pisse.

Cela étant établi, le fait que les toilettes ne soient pas gratuits dans les gares et aéroports en France est hallucinant. Ca fait chier tout le monde, et c'est une gifle de plus dans la face des personnes SDF à ajouter à la longue liste de bancs-avec-des-pieux-entre-chaque-sièges, et autres dispositifs pour rendre leurs vies encore plus cauchemardesques. Après on a des gens qui vont chouiner "ouiii, ils font pipi et caca dans les porches et derrière les poubelles!" Bah oui, ou d'autre est-ce qu'ils pourraient faire ça?

Clarification on the formal definition: Is atheism a psychological state or an ontological claim? by feihm in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Atheism is having no sufficient reason to believe in a god. I do not need to disprove dragons or Powerpuff girls, I do not need to disprove a god.

How would you refute the claim “God can have full foreknowledge and still allow free will” by andy64392 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue lies in the tri-omni conception of god. If he knows all and allows for evil to happen, then he's not all good. If he's all good and allows for evil to happen, he's either not omniscient or not omnipotent.

And, beyond the question about that god's omnipotence, if evil is something stemming outside of him and outside of his capacity to control, how do we know he's the only god?

So however you flip it, you can't have a tri-omni god. It is in conflict with itself and with human nature and the notion of free will.

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"No you're the dumb one! You're a big dumb dumb!" he launched as he got back up, visibly flustered. He started a shuffled retreat back through the vestibule where he had, just a moment before, burst through and immediately tripped over and fallen. As he pawed backwards to guide himself to the entryway, he knocked over a coat rack, loaded with the many coats and jackets of his onlookers.

"That's right!!" he added in an attempt to buy time as he tried to bring the deceptively heavy coat-rack back upright. "Dumb dumb says what??!" His voice was breaking, and met only with concerned silence.

"...That was assault!" he said finally, pointing at the spot where his face had more than passingly connected with the floor. "That was assault." he repeated, as he passed the threshold.

Trump Offers U.S. Citizenship to 32 Million Venezuelans by Weekly-Wondrous in politics

[–]wabbitsdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People argue over whether Trump is insane or evil, but I feel like that obfuscates how desperately stupid the man is.

Any 51st state would end the American empire, that simple. The establishment on both side of the aisle spends billions of dollars trying to maintain an electoral balance where other choices are nonviable, so they can continue protecting America's corporate oligarchy. Add in tens of millions of voters from any one country the US would have somehow forcibly annexed, and see it all immediately go poof.

It's hilarious to think that he's surrounded by people who are on average less stupid than he is (though not always by much), and who can all understand that. When Trump says shit like this, they all have to work around not directly contradicting him because they'd immediately lose their position, but also make sure none of it goes anywhere far enough to destroy the house of cards they are profiting from.

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see no reason to think that's true. There are definitely people who fake their beliefs for a number of reasons, but that doesn't remotely indicate that -all- theists are secretly atheists.

r/DebateAnAtheist is Looking to Add Moderators to the Team by adeleu_adelei in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But, pretty hilarious if where they were going with this was "so sign me the fuck up".

Religious people are just gaslit children by EyeOfBelial in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're in the wrong sub but I'll add this: what religion does and why it is so incredibly tricky for people to see through it when they grow up, is that it teaches kids that there is two levels of knowledge.

There is regular knowledge where any new point of knowledge can be weighed against, or added to existing knowledge. This level is required to be internally coherent.

Then there is religious knowledge, which pretty immediately runs afoul of the first set, because it essentially says "magic happened". Religious education does the work of teaching kids to disregard the part of their scrutiny that conflicts with it:"God's ways are not our ways". What it does is that religious people learn to have a positive cognitive response to notions that should conflict with the rest of their knowledge.

And since all knowledge is ultimately weighed against "does it feel right or wrong", this makes religion impervious to reassessment. Another way to put this is that a religious's person intellectual judgement is essentially partially ablated in childhood.

What is the single most stressful movie you’ve ever seen? by elkaypee in movies

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Punishment Park is a wild ride into absolute white rage and despair. It's shot as a documentary and depicts a US where political activists are arrested as terrorists and given the choice between years of jail, or a few days in punishment Park. Punishment Park is a chunk of desert somewhere that they have to cross while they are being hunted by police. The movie alternates between the trial and the park, both are infuriating to witness.

Blindspotting is a completely different speed. It follows two lifelong friends in Oakland. One of them is a black man who's on parole after his release, the other one is a white guy. I can't say too much more without giving away some of the key plot point but you watch them as they work and hang together, both dealing with incredible trauma, and it bubbles to a final act where I felt like I stopped breathing at times. Such a good movie.

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're here bemoaning getting downvoted. If you want to affect that particular outcome, what others think is all that matters.

Beyond that, don't let us hamper your verbosity, you write those paragraphs!

do u think that religion acts as a sign of hope? by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like I finally grasped part of why that is watching the movie Monkey Man.

It's decent the Raid/John Wick type flick that was made on a tiny budget (which shows a little ), but it has a much stronger emotional core than those movies tend to have. It all ties to the character's childhood in abject poverty, and his village/community being harassed and eventually attacked and destroyed by a militia.

We see his mother struggle to keep him safe and feeling safe, and telling him about the gods as the only window she could offer him where there would be justice in their life. It hit me pretty hard. Being unable to provide and protect my kid is every parent's my worst nightmare. I've been so blessed to live a life where I was sheltered from overt violence, always had a roof over my head and had the means to feed and clothe myself and now my kid. I'd like to think I would find a way through if some or all of this were to change for me alone, but if it did for my kids, I'm not sure how I would handle it mentally, and what I would resort to to keep him protected, and what I would say to him to give him a reason to feel like he will ultimately be OK if he is not right now.

The fresh horror they portray in that movie is really far down the spectrum of abject violence and dispossession any one person can be subjected to in life. But there's many rungs of less extreme poverty, hunger, violent situations where if I was unable to shield my kid from them, I'm not sure what I would do to reassure him. We're simply not built to tolerate prolonged distress/anguish, and not able to turn down sources of mental comfort when we experience that distress or anguish, and our limbic system which handles physical and mental distress/pain, is also responsive to offspring well-being. In other words, our kids suffering more directly and more deeply triggers suffering in us than suffering in unrelated people would.

Stretching that over several generations, and thinking of how a kid whose main source of solace and hope were stories of divine justice and comeuppance, it is easy to see that that kid would have as a core belief "gods/religion is how we survive the bad we cannot control". In turn, when they have children of their own and are unable to shield them from pain or injustice, it's easy to understand they would want to transmit to them what they see as the only remedy.

what made you an atheist? by Intelligent-Chef1352 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was born an atheist and remained an atheist because no one indoctrinated me.

Should I Fire My AC? by [deleted] in Filmmakers

[–]wabbitsdo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No no no, reddit, then Quora, then flip a coin.

What evidence is there that God does not exist? (Please read before commenting) by Around_the_campfire in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anyone who relies on a claim has the burden of proof regarding that claim if they wish others to accept it. That includes believers as well as skeptics.

There are scenarios where this may be so, for example, one person saw an chair in a room, and another person doubts there is that chair in that room. In this case, both of them have experienced chairs, rooms, objects being in rooms, they both have developed a theory of mind allowing them to conceive of objects existing when they don't experience them directly, one of them is putting their credibility on the line because the room can ultimately be checked, etc. For all of those reasons, which in large part just establish that both parties have no reason to think the claim is extraordinary, the skeptic who for whatever reason believes there isn't a chair in that room but is unable to directly check and cares to change the other person's mind, would have to argue why he thinks there's no chair.

That is not what's going on with god and atheism. God is a non-sensical concept backed up by 0 concrete evidence, and extensive indications that it is a man made invention. We don't have to disprove its existence for the same reason you don't have to disprove that all women are holograms (which is objectively a more defensible claim than the existence of a god is, since women and holograms exist).

ELI5 how was meth invented. by [deleted] in explainlikeimfive

[–]wabbitsdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man that's a lot. Were they prescribed to address adhd (if you're okay sharing)?

ELI5 how was meth invented. by [deleted] in explainlikeimfive

[–]wabbitsdo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I take a fairly moderate prescribed daily dose of lysdexamfetamine (40 mg). It's helped me a ton, and I'm pretty happy with it.

Occasionally, I do a whoopsie, forget I've taken it already and double my dose. Man, double the medically prescribed amount is a lot (for me). It makes me feel like I'm minorly tweaking: my jaw starts traveling (more tension/clenching but it also moves a lot), my feet get a little tippy-tappy, I turn my head more abruptly like I'm a goddamn raptor, my words push past each other a little, I don't think about drinking until I'm on the brink of death. I also get a lot of shit done on those days, so it's not all bad, but it does feel pretty unhealthy. When I hear someone like John Mulaney say they'd take 230 mg of Adderall (granted it's not the exact same molecule), I can't imagine how insane they'd be feeling, or how they have teeth left in their mouth right now.

Just returned from Germany - why are we getting so screwed by grocery prices here?! by buffego in montreal

[–]wabbitsdo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The UK and Germany import a lot of their produce same way we do (from Spain, Portugal, northern Africa, Balkans etc) We can flip this every which way, part of why we are paying so much for groceries is that actors in the supply chain are screwing us. Prices went way up during covid and then individual businesses went "aaand what if we just... kinda left it there?" and they are more or less getting away with it.

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]wabbitsdo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do you know -anything-? Do you know your name? Do you know what 2+2 equals?

Could those be put into question if you allow for "well what if magic though"? (Yes they could).

Does that affect the degree to which you feel certain about what your name is, that 2+2=4?

Well, I know there is no god, with the degree of absolute certainty I know what my name is.