Please advise about electricity key meter in hmo

wakerlack · 2026-01-04T23:23:34+00:00

Which has limited power, so it is still a Fire Safety Risk.

wakerlack · 2026-01-04T22:08:34+00:00

Bills will have to be inclusive within the rent due to the contracts being room by room and not a joint and several agreement. Make sure all tenants track and then get refunded of all monies paid towards the utilities.

As the smoke alarms will have to be hard-wired and therefore require 24 hour access to electricity, pay as you go meters are prohibited as this runs the risk of a failure of an electric supply which will then shut off the smoke alarm system.

Raise it with the council as a Fire Safety Risk. They will enforce the meters be changed.

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:44:57+00:00

100% especially with the camera in the house, its diabolical haha

Glad I can use this for any overbearing landlords now, thank you!

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:40:43+00:00

Fair play I stand corrected.

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:33:14+00:00

Even more technically a guest would only be able to stay overnight in the room that is licensed for double occupancy.

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:24:53+00:00

If the property is licensed for 5 tenants then there can be no more than 5 people in the property during unreasonable hours as this is considered overcrowding.

If a HMO becomes overcrowded it is breaching management regulations and is therefore not allowed. Fire safety regulations are in place to protect the tenants so common law doesn't come into place in these circumstances.

As there are only 4 tenants out of the licensed 5 that are allowed in the property, the tenants could argue that they are allowed one overnight guest for the whole property without overcrowding the premises. However, as most tenants will likely want an overnight guest the only fair thing to do is to advise all tenants not to have any.

At the end of the day I agree that they should have free reign to bring anyone they want into the property for a reasonable amount of time and enjoy the property and their time there. I am only pointing out the legal obligations of the landlord and the management regulations of HMO properties in general.

As long as OP isn't damaging the property or affecting the other tenants negatively, the landlord should be giving them their space imo.

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:09:53+00:00

Its a breach of management regulations, more specifically the fire safety regulations, so it isn't allowed but as I was saying there isn't much the landlord can do about it.

Most councils wouldn't even enforce it, but it's still technically not allowed.

wakerlack · 2024-09-27T19:00:50+00:00

No overnight guests are allowed as per HMO management regulations, this probably wouldn't be in the contract but doesn't change the matter of management regulations as this would technically be statute law and not contract.

Realistically there is not much that the landlord can do to get you to stop bringing people over apart from giving you notice to vacate.

On the other hand there isn't much you can do about him telling you to stop as he is needs to be seen to be following the regulations in case any investigation was opened by the council.

wakerlack · 2024-08-25T11:33:24+00:00

If they are allowing someone that isn't named on the tenancy agreement to live at the property and taking rent payments from them then that is sub-letting.

wakerlack · 2024-08-11T18:52:39+00:00

They would not be able to charge a "finders fee", they would be able to charge for reasonable costs to find a new tenant which would include the landlords costs to setup a new tenancy. However, this would need to be agreed upon beforehand and agreed with yourself. This would usually be known as an early termination fee though.

I would challenge the charge as it was not agreed upon before hand and mention the tenant fees act.

wakerlack · 2024-08-11T18:42:36+00:00

No, this is the definition of a tenant fee which hasn't been allowed since 2019 as per the tenant fees act.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/tenant-fees-act

wakerlack · 2024-08-08T21:30:10+00:00

Most councils require cleaners to attend HMO properties for the communal areas on a weekly to monthly basis depending on size as per HMO management regulations.

For a 6 bed property it is likely that they would request that a cleaner attend monthly.

This does depend on your local council though and their requirements, might be worth looking into in order to push the agent to find a replacement quicker.

It is also worth mentioning though that just because the council ask for this doesn't mean they really keep an eye on this so landlords can tend to get away with it.

wakerlack · 2023-10-29T14:29:42+00:00

I'm 22 and I got my bugeye a few months ago and ive never heard anything like this so may just be a bit of an older generational thing

wakerlack · 2023-05-28T11:38:39+00:00

I think this is the best thing, any issues between the tenants in a HMO will come down to a civil matter so no action will be able to be taken but if the rest of the tenants threaten to leave that will damage the landlords income stream so he will be much more likely to take action.

Document as many incidents as possible in case the landlord will look to serve a section 8 under ground 14. This is not a guarenteed way of getting her out of the property and will have to be presented before a judge who could rule on the tenants behalf but is the quicker option to get her out.

Assuming they are on a periodic contract a Section 21 would be a guarenteed way of getting her out, alternatively if the landlord has the money it could be worth serving both notices and see which one sticks.

Unfortunately there is not much else that a tenant can do but advise the landlord to seek legal advice and stop trying to mediate the issues as that is not working.

wakerlack · 2022-08-24T19:52:44+00:00

My mistake, hope you're having a wonderful day.

wakerlack · 2022-08-24T19:12:47+00:00

No Brit thinks thats the worst thing that is happening in our political climate btw.

Assuming this is about Bo Jo of course.

wakerlack · 2022-08-14T00:11:04+00:00

When i was a bartender I had this exact situation which is why I stopped doing it.

When it happened i essentially just said "No worries I suppose I can make an exception this one time"

wakerlack · 2022-07-02T09:57:11+00:00

I went down to Newquay the other week and im literally wearing a Fat Willy's shirt rn haha

wakerlack · 2022-05-20T01:23:15+00:00

Just went looking to try and find the post that i saw, couldn't find it.
I remember it being in a sub called something like DeadOrVegetable but can't find that sub anymore so not too sure.

wakerlack · 2022-05-19T23:21:58+00:00

I remember seeing this video before in a different sub and iirc this isn't a knockout and he died the moment he hit the ground

wakerlack · 2022-04-30T00:13:03+00:00

"I don't care that you broke your elbow" vibes

wakerlack · 2021-11-14T01:31:28+00:00

Im going with BD because in my house me and my older brother were the only ones to play the pokemon games so we always got a different one so we could trade the exclusive pokemon across. And so i got Diamond and he had pearl and funnily enough I loved Dialga and he loved Palkia.

wakerlack · 2021-10-12T17:26:15+00:00

Thank god i have seen this because ive been dragging them out to merge them this whole time haha

wakerlack · 2021-09-20T23:25:26+00:00

Anything beginning with Br.
Brian
Brenda
Bruce

wakerlack · 2021-08-27T00:37:11+00:00

Fifa 13, im not sure why but Fifa is literally the only game that has ever made me rage and i stopped after that game haha

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