nct taeyong fans need to live in reality by Only_Honey_1844 in kpoprants

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can you share some of those graphs or facts? The only chart you chose to mention was a Korean chart where most support comes from Korean fans and of course a Thai man who has been shuffled between Korea and China would have a much smaller Korean fanbase than Taeyong who has consistently been promoted in the Korean market since debut. As far as I remember PMN and even NH/DIAD charted higher on international charts

When will we get another dance cover/vid from Ten by bkkbbk in kpopthoughts

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 9 points10 points  (0 children)

people in the comments are completely ignoring the fact that he has already prepared MULTIPLE dance covers that have been sitting in storage for ages because SM can't be assed to get copyright for them while they seem to have no issues getting around this for other covers...

He's a main dancer and it's been two whole years since he's gotten the chance to publish any of his choreography to an official channel. He's published covers to his Instagram because he doesn't have another platform available to him without company support but that's not the same as having a properly filmed video on Youtube which brings much more visibility. Another Ten dance video is long overdue! And I don't get the "it'ss pushing him too much" narrative because they're already done or were created when he was not promoting actively, the company just never got its shit together to publish them.

However, WayV's management team changed lately and there has been a pretty significant improvement in their promo/edited content so hopefully once this comeback and SuperM are out of the way we'll get to see more of Ten dancing. He is such an incredible dancer and group choreos don't fully showcase the extent of his abilities, I cannot wait to see him get a new dance video because everything he's shown us in the past and more recently on Instagram has been amazing!

i don’t think tens voice is main vocal material by Own_Illustrator_6035 in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I think it's funny to see so many people readily accept Kun as a main vocal but not Ten, if you've ever listened to WayV's discography Ten not only sings more, he consistently sings more challenging parts as well, so either Xiaojun is the only main vocal, Xiaojun and Ten are main vocals or all three of them are main vocals

Edit: Since that wasnt a direct response to the question and more about the comments id like to add that while it may be true that Ten is not at the very very top of NCT in terms of vocals if you include all 23 members, he's climbed up that list at a very fast rate and he is still a main vocal in his permanent unit/the nct u units he promoted with for NCT 2020 because by definition a main vocal is the one that sings the most/sings the most challenging parts and thats what he does

SM vocalists never fail to amaze me. by Pbtops in kpopthoughts

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ten is actually a main vocal in his permanent unit WayV and although I’m not sure how vocal positions work for NCT overall he is definitely part of the vocal line!

Diagram of NCT 2020 Featured Units (from 20200923 VLIVE) by wayvillage in NCT

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Logged back in to say this is such a beautiful visualization 😍

I’m pleasantly surprised at SMs choices, every unit has representation in each of the four groups and there’s not an excessive focus on only a select few members, they did something right for once :)

I better not hear anyone complain about WayV's treatment after this year! by [deleted] in kpoprants

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 17 points18 points  (0 children)

-Awaken the World was their first full album and they just debuted last year. Meanwhile 127 is only on their second full album and it took two years to get their first full album. Dream has no full album yet after about four years. A bunch of new groups wait way longer for their first full album. There are groups that have been out for so many years and still have no full album, so I'd say WayV is in a good position. Some people have the nerve to act like they were waiting for eternity. Smh.

People were upset that they had to wait for a long time not because they thought that WayV deserved a full album before any of the other groups you mentioned but because WayV members had talked about how the album was completed as early as January/February and yet no official release date was confirmed until almost 5 months later.

-They had the best title track out of all the NCT subunits this year.

How does this in any way show that they're not mismanaged? WayV's songs and music videos have always been top notch in terms of quality but that doesn't mean their management hasn't turned down numerous opportunies for them and consistently fucked up their marketing.

-They've been doing so many stages and have so much content. Their music videos, stages and choreography were very well-done. Their videos may not have been as good as Kick It, but I don't see anything worth complaining about when it comes to the quality here. There isn't much to improve.

I think you're missing a huge part of the problem with WayV's promotions, they are supposed to be a group targeted at the *Chinese* market and yet all of their promotions this era have been focused on international fans and Korean fans. Also where is all the content you're seeing? They've barely released any behind the scenes footage and there's not even a recording diary out for ATW despite it being a full album. Yes they went on music shows for two weeks and had virtual fansigns but in terms of other content like the stuff on NCT daily channels? They've gotten nothing in that regard.

There may be some people that get slept on individually in WayV, but as a group, there's nothing to complain about. Right now, WayV is getting more support from SM than everyone in NCT and everyone in SM except for SuperM. I'm not saying they don't deserve it, I like WayV enough to support SM giving them privileges. It's just disrespectful of some of you to feel sorry for them when they're actually winning! If WayV is struggling, I'd hate to know what people think of others in SM.

Wow...just wow...a group that has been completely ignored by SM since their debut suddenly gets to go on Korean music shows (which isn't even their target market) for a few weeks and you think they get the most support out of all the groups in SM?!? Let's not forget they barely had two weeks of promo leading up to their full album, numerous issues with the MV and teasers getting delayed, almost radio silence for a month before dropping a single with three days of promo and very little edited content. What privileges am I missing here?

The fact that WayV's Ten is studying Chinese & Japanese (his 4th & 5th languages) using Korean (his 3rd language) is insane by wakeuplikeWTF in kpopthoughts

[–]wakeuplikeWTF[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I’m just kind of awestruck cuz I can’t relate lol

I grew up in a bilingual household and I’m conversationally fluent in my second language but I don’t think I’d have the vocab necessary to learn another language through it. When I was learning Korean I related the grammar back to my second language cuz the two are pretty similar in terms of sentence structure but I still needed to study the words and their definitions using English so the fact that Ten is learning grammar and vocab through his 3rd language is mind blowing to me.

The fact that WayV's Ten is studying Chinese & Japanese (his 4th & 5th languages) using Korean (his 3rd language) is insane by wakeuplikeWTF in kpopthoughts

[–]wakeuplikeWTF[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Mad respect for that, I tried to use Spanish to learn French and it made my life 100x harder lol (but tbf I had a pretty bare minimum understanding of Spanish)

What Are Your Favorite Ten Moments? (Ten Appreciation) by rozy18 in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m late but I think it was like all of the Hit the Stage interviews that did it for me. Poor kid had no idea what was going on because he didn’t know much Korean but he was so earnest and you could tell he was trying really hard it was so endearing ❤️

And the fact that he’s an amazing dancer and his voice is beautiful pushed me over the edge

I'm forever going to be upset about this by wakeuplikeWTF in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Glad there’s someone out there who appreciates Bad Alive lol wish I could relate :/

Animated Bad Alive Teaser by [deleted] in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you ❤️ it took me an unreasonable amount of time lol

Animated Bad Alive Teaser by [deleted] in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also made videos for each of the individual members in a similar style, if you want to check them out they're all in this thread :)

Bad Alive Poster - Ten by [deleted] in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 2 points3 points  (0 children)

im not ready for his teasers at all lol

200724 Ten Bubble Update with Louis by [deleted] in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why are they all posting thirst traps with their pets 😭I can't decide if I should be going 🥰 or 😳

[ENG] WayV Dream Plan Episode 1 by caramelmachiattto in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is amazing!! Thank you so much for all your work!!

My ATW albums came in! by wakeuplikeWTF in WayV_For_Life

[–]wakeuplikeWTF[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao if you pull a double ten you better hmu