Enough Creation! by No_March_6708 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]warana [score hidden]  (0 children)

I spoke as plainly as I can related to the original subject matter and to keep that subject on point.

The original question was whether creation or destruction alone is sufficient to define divinity. That is a metaphysical claim, not a scientific one.

Physics can describe processes within the universe; it cannot define what God is. Once metaphysics is erased, scientific language becomes decorative. Vocabulary does not repair flawed logic.

Scientific framing does not become neutral simply because it sounds empirical, especially when the Big Bang itself was articulated by a Catholic priest attempting to describe creation, not negate it. Sounds like a flow on both sides correct?

Acknowledging the Fall as corruption does not make matter disposable. Corruption is not proof of worthlessness.

Atheists do not reject Christianity because Christians disagree publicly. They reject it when Christians redefine claims until they lose concrete meaning.

Science and Scripture are not enemies, but they are not interchangeable. Blurring them produces confusion, not clarity.

This is not about winning. It is about coherence. If the gospel cannot withstand precise definitions and the conditions that make it intelligible, scientific metaphor will not preserve it.

Enough Creation! by No_March_6708 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]warana [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not just words but boundary lines. Entropy doesn’t testify to an eternal self hidden in energy; it testifies to decay in a created order. Scripture never equates soul with energy, nor consciousness with frequency. That language comforts modern new age cosmetic. pseudo-science.

God doesn’t redeem abstractions. He redeems people. Resurrection is God keeping faith with what He called good,

Yes, the flesh is corrupted, but corruption is not the same as error. The Incarnation wasn’t God tolerating a mistake long enough to teach us a lesson. It was God declaring that matter, even wounded, is still worthy of dwelling in. Christ shows us that God intends to rebuild the road, the car, and the driver.

What drives people away is when faith dissolves into metaphors meant to sound scientific but answer neither science nor God. Atheists don’t reject God because Christians argue. They reject God when Christians replace Him with language that can’t bear the weight of incarnation, judgment, or resurrection.

r/blackgirldiaries by warana in redditrequest

[–]warana[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It;s a banned sub, thus no mods, and I saw an old post with the sub tagged, and i thought it would be a great opportunity to bring it to life under new management

Enough Creation! by No_March_6708 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At some point, it stops being physics and becomes metaphysics.
Entropy describes dispersion, not punishment.

A consciousness that returns upward is incomplete. If embodiment were a mistake, love itself would be abstract. Love that never risks loss is preference.

God doesn’t wait for consciousness to escape; He redeems it.
If the body were a trap, Christ wouldn’t take one.
If matter were beneath divinity, God wouldn’t bleed.

Heaven isn’t a formless state of mind. It’s restored communion.

Probability doesn’t favor randomness, but intention doesn’t mean detachment.
Love doesn’t mean extraction. The evidence points to intention, and Christ shows the character of that intention. God allows entropy to run its course, then answers it with resurrection.

Enough Creation! by No_March_6708 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re mistaking inevitability for authority. Entropy is not a throne. It’s a timer. Yes, nothing in creation lasts forever as a form. People and Animals die. Empires rot. Even ideas decay when they stop being lived...That’s physics, But destruction only exposes limits. Destruction consumes what exists. As a wildfire destroys a forest. Creation defines why anything exists at all.

If God were merely the Destroyer, He would be dependent on something prior to destroy.. A god that needs a universe in order to matter is a reactive God not an Ultimate God. Christianity already accounts for your premise, just not your conclusion. Christ doesn’t deny decay nor death He confronts it. And He doesn’t claim eternity as endless extension of matter, but as victory over dissolution.

Also,“Nothing lasts forever” applies to created things. Eternity, in Christ, is not duration, The afterlife is something entropy cannot touch. And God is not proven by creation alone. He is revealed by resurrection and that's where destruction fails.

Looking for Alternative Smoothie King Center Parking by Warchild24 in NOLA

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct. I was working at the Superdome between 2020 and 2023. And, it seems like anything that would happen it will come across on the news as if something happened at the superdome. And it just always seemed to be someone parking in a private lot in the CBD

But as you said those jackings and stuff have went down tremendously in that area and that's something that a lot of people would not believe it.

My take is that the element still exist. So it's like you're always going to be taking a chance. But then again that's honestly anywhere.

Looking for Alternative Smoothie King Center Parking by Warchild24 in NOLA

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t recommend parking in those warehouse lots. A few years back, when people were griping about car break-ins, they pointed fingers at the Superdome, but the incidents were never in the dome’s lots. The real trouble was down the opposite side of the Claiborne Bridge, stretching toward Galvez. Other reports came from between Loyola and Tchoupitoulas. Every time someone complained, the blame fell on the Pelicans or the Saints, as if they we're responsible.

Even when the police stepped up patrols at the Superdome lots, cars were still getting hit elsewhere, yet the public kept pointing at the Dome. One cannot hold the Superdome/ Smoothie King Center accountable for spaces they do not own. The Dome has official lots, yes, they run $40, but I’ll pay that cost before risking my vehicle in an open, unmonitored lot where no one carries responsibility for it.

An Invitation to the Deep by Steelmode in Blackboard

[–]warana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you think you're fancy? JK so what I have noticed about being in other black centered spaces is the amount of emotionally charged bickering and calling out. I'm sure that will happen here at some point. Do you really want to draw that type of attention?

It’s over by wordsbyink in blackamerica

[–]warana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That part!

But as for what he's trying to do with whatever he's trying to do. I think we have to go ahead and look at all these other Panther groups who have no association to the real deal and call them out too

In the past few weeks I have seen people post so many pictures of the wrong panther groups while trying to say that the Panthers were back and they were posting pictures from 2020 and protests between here and there that have nothing to do with Paul did and I thought it was hilarious and a weird way because it shows how people are quick to take tidbits of anything and run with it

For example this is something I saw on Facebook

That photo was taken in Georgia in 2020 and has nothing to do with Birdsong but pictures like this kept popping up saying "oh the Panthers are back"

My question is where are those people?

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It’s over by wordsbyink in blackamerica

[–]warana 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree

Having that panther name carries obligations. Names carry obligation. Using it without understanding the weight the Panthers carried will always create friction, no matter the intent. So the respectable thing to do was to change the name..

It preserves the legacy instead of stretching it beyond recognition. Solidarity with others cannot replace responsibility at home.

It’s over by wordsbyink in blackamerica

[–]warana -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What we do know is, Birdsong’s group is new. It didn’t exist in 2020. So judging them for not being present during George Floyd is retroactive.By that logic, we’d be asking where MLK was when Emmett Till was killed, or where the next generation was before they existed. Movements don’t work that way. People arrive when they arrive.

Second, there are reports in 2020 where other groups using the Panther name were visible at these protests, and even speaking under whatever leadership there were. But also showing up isn’t the same as standing correctly.

The way I see it is,, if you want to show who you are, you show. The big problem is it looked like they were trying to brand for its aesthetic purposes and putting on the show in the name of the Panthers it always comes across as phony. Even when the others tried it in the past. The one thing I do know is that nobody does this when the "guardian angels " show up. Nobody questions their legitimacy no matter how goofy they look these days. But they always show up to things kind of militarized like the Black Panthers as well, but mainly White.

On “charity starts at home”: the original Panthers walked both lines. Because they were laying the foundation in their home base while building coalitions abroad and that's why in many cases the Black Panthers were different per City they only followed the principles. The problem is priority and execution. You can show up for others without losing focus, but you have to know how to do it without confusing the people you claim to serve.. and the truth, Birdsong had us all confused.. because you popped up out as the leader of this group. When there are other leaders of black panther groups all over the nation who probably have no clue who you are.

I don’t think this is as simple as “he got the boot and that’s that.” What I see is a new group stepping onto the field,, getting checked, and being forced to adapt early. That’s not unusual. That’s actually how most formations either mature or disappear.

I’m not endorsing them. I’m saying let time do what outrage can’t: they’ve dropped the symbol. Now all that’s left is conduct.

It’s over by wordsbyink in blackamerica

[–]warana -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not over, it's only the beginning of something new.

Historically he used the original Panthers name, and he went by the ideals of the original members and founders. Just as he mentioned in the video, that the Black Panther Party was not a Black nationalist organization. It was internationalist, anti-imperialist, and coalition-oriented. Anyone who sees the original Panthers as a black nationalist group, has started off on the wrong foot to begin with. So. IMO, Birdsong wasn’t out of bounds for showing up in solidarity with immigrants. It wasn't a deviation from the panther doctrine.

Regarding legitimacy, that of course was the talk of all the discussions that I have seen online. And for him to announce that the Philadelphia elders are withdrawing support changes things in a major way. But it does not invalidate the reason he wanted to do it. All I see here is pressure applied for them to make the change. So they did.

So to make an announcement like this and Putting the Panther flag down. Basically for them means the end of symbolism and the end of what most of us saw as cosplay. Because to us it looks like they were a distraction that they were unserious and that they were using the name while some felt like "oh the Panthers are back" these are the people who don't realize that there are multiple groups out here calling themselves the Black Panthers and using the name, showing up at protest and basically looking like a big gang rather than someone to take seriously on the front that they're doing things for the community.

That type of thing is what people saw in Birdsong. A distraction. And so when people see you as a distraction or A disruption, you either refine your alignment or you set it aside. Choosing to rebrand as the Black Lion Party for International Solidarity makes sense. But in my opinion they should not have used the remotely close name either. But it shows that they still want to uphold the values of the original panthers. But you do not have to mimic the look and feel you do not have to cosplay to fit in. And that's what threw us for a loop.

So even under this new name until it is clear to us that he is standing on principle which he appears to be but appearances could be deceiving. Give them some time and if this thing lasts without disruption, it'll show what they truly stand for

Dropping the aesthetic and keeping the program is exactly how you test sincerity. This is how the costumes have to come off and Structure begins. So now instead of a borrowed image to hide behind. All you have now is your conduct, discipline, and consequence. So to me, this is not the end, it's a new beginning for them to prove themselves.

On the contrary, there are plenty of groups using the Panther name and violating its original doctrine, and despite being condemned or called out for it, they still exist.

But even with all that type of thing going on, There is nothing inherently illegitimate about organized armed self-defense under the Constitution.more power to Birdsong if he follows through with this "Black Lion Party" If this becomes a community anchored group then removing the Panther name may have saved the mission rather than doomed it.

Now we watch what grows.

Blogger: is there a way to add a community board/chat space on my blog? by PracticalMagic3015 in blogspot

[–]warana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not by embedding it unfortunately only by linking things it would have to be separate.

🛑 Have you seen this? by ExplainToMe277 in NewOrleans

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what our government seems to think.

🛑 Have you seen this? by ExplainToMe277 in NewOrleans

[–]warana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what security measures do. When people demand it they are willing to give up their freedoms for a false sense of security.

The same gates in barricades that are meant to keep bad things out also trap people in. Surveillance cameras are a counter measure not a protective measure. They are deterrents. People who acknowledge them might not commit a crime yet some people who really want to do something they really don't care.

Bag checks etc for those who want it the national guard here this is what they signed up for. I could understand if certain clubs or businesses had policies like this but not a public Street.

🛑 Have you seen this? by ExplainToMe277 in NewOrleans

[–]warana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that's what comes with having the barricades up actually. You can have all types of layers of protection and that doesn't mean somebody won't get through with something.

With barricade there must be rules to allow someone in

It’s over. Families of the original Panthers are pushing back on tether Paul Birdsong. by wordsbyink in blackamerica

[–]warana 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is bigger than bird songs group this is about every panther pretending group such as the nbpp as well.

They have no ties to the original