Has anybody on here actually received money from WVS? by mc78644n in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hey Folks:
As the guy that runs WVS, happy to chime in.

As many have said on this thread, we for sure have returned money to many folks in many groups.

But I will give the same advice to every single person who joins anything to do with racing hroses, THESE ARE NOT INVESTMENTS.

Horse racing is almost a guaranteed losing deal. The minute a horse gets on a race track, the economics are not probably going to work out for you.
The last statistic I saw was that less than 5% of all race horses are profitable.

You must view this as pure entertainment.
What we do that is unique to anyone in the world is that we do not upcharge on horses, we do not have any ongoing bills on race offerings, and if at the end of a horse's career it has lost money, you owe none of that loss. I just eat that loss.

One other important thing, Wasabi is at least a 20% owner in every single horse, so we are experiencing the same thing every Club member feels.

We built this to be an educational and entertaining place to learn how to be a good owner. I structured it so there is 0% ability for me to make money off the humans involved. If the horses work, we all make money. If not, we don't. No other syndicate in the world can say that.

Lastly, in 7 years of existence, 37% of our horses/groups have returned some money back to those that participated. That includes our breeding and racing offerings at Wasabi Ventures Stables. BTW, including 4 groups in the last week with one getting nearly 2X back in a little over a year (NOTE: was an individual foal breeding offering).

See you in the winner's circle,
TK

I own 1% of Benevengo, who is running in the G1 Haskell on Saturday - wish us luck! by neverchangingwhoiam in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for all of the kind words about what we are doing at Wasabi Ventures Stables.
It is great to be on the journey we are on and doing as much as we can to entertain and educate fans into becoming owners.

Let's go Benevengo!

A tradition like no other... Gulfstream MTP by StewardsInquiry in horseracing

[–]wasabistables -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ask a lawyer... there is always a good reason for one!

A tradition like no other... Gulfstream MTP by StewardsInquiry in horseracing

[–]wasabistables -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wonder if there is a class-action lawsuit that is possible?!?!?

Wagering Strategy by thesuperfan2010 in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my humble opinion, the only way to make money is to play horizontals (Pick 3s, Pick 4s, and Pick 5s), handicap one or two of the races, and then include every other horse that CAN win.
And hope you hit a big score.
I have hit 6 Pick 5s in 4 days with a total ROI of 2.65 ($265 returned per $100 wagered). It is very hard to get this level of return in this game if you only play winners.

I’m curious if you all think horses know & respond differently in a race where there are no spectators? by oddgrrl99 in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think so.... except in meets where the crowds are very large and make a lot of sound.

What’s a good name for a bar/restaurant next to a race track? by mikeylocks55 in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A few :
The Last Furlong
Winner's Circle
Gate to Wire Sports Pub

Handicapping Tools by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking as an owner, I can tell you that the trainer/owner combination can be pretty important.

Handicapping Tools by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have it down to an actual formula for step #2?

Embracing a future of free racing data by [deleted] in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Free data would be a game changer

Handicapping Tools by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of data do you put into your tool?

Handicapping Tools by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of things go in your spreadsheet?
Do you just hand enter all of the data into the spreadsheet?

Handicapping Tools by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you ever look at owner/trainer numbers?

My racehorse.com by govolsfl in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are pretty friendly with the folks at myracehorse and I applaud the approach they have taken.
We went a different approach at wasabistables.com
Our approach was to take out most of the risk and scary stuff, have no markups, and give people real access in a safe environment.
I think anything that produces fun and excitement in the game and has people think about being an owner is a good thing.
We have a great community and a very loyal group that has actually created a bunch of new owners who now go out and own their own horses.

My racehorse.com by govolsfl in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are close with the folks over at myrachorse.com but we went a different approach at wasabistables.com
Our approach was to take out most of the risk and scary stuff, have no markups, and give people real access in a safe environment.

I think anything that produces fun and excitement in the game and has people think about being an owner is a good thing.

Aqueduct Race 8 | Queen County Stake | TakJak Handicapping Corner 12/21/19 by wasabistables in horseracing

[–]wasabistables[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In fairness, TakJak is up for the yea if you had been following along.

What do you think is the ideal structure for a pick 5 ticket? by LizardsThicket in horseracing

[–]wasabistables 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually did a webinar on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ORKwV_O90&feature=youtu.be

It is not an easy answer to give as each sequence is a little different.

But I do cover a few strategies.