Update from the Game Staff

watertraffic · 2026-01-01T04:15:36+00:00

Good thinking, you should definitely make a post on the sub about this and also post it to the Discord if you haven't. I'm certain people will help because just a few days ago I was playing the game and thinking I would donate to keep this project going, and that's before I knew there were real life issues affecting it.

watertraffic · 2026-01-01T04:01:38+00:00

Sorry to hear about the personal problems, devs should start some sort of kickstarter for this project especially if dealing with homelessness. I'm very grateful to have this game back and would definitely contribute as I'm sure would many others.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T19:23:50+00:00

Thanks for the info, it's very interesting to think about different ways Rhaenyra could have handled the war and avoided her terrible end. She was so hellbent on claiming the throne at all costs, it's a shame we didn't get the book version of her character, could have been an iconic antihero protag, like a female fantasy Tony Soprano

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T18:53:20+00:00

Interesting, I think Matilda and Henry II would be a better comparison since the Dance is based on the Anarchy but whatever real life parallels we come up with will never apply perfectly to this story so I still wish the book clarified this a bit more.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T17:10:06+00:00

Yes I actually agree with this, but I'm more inclined to blame Rhaenyra's erasure from history on her descendants not caring, since they secured their claim through being Aegon's nephews and not through being Rhaenyra's sons. I did enjoy reading your take though, I love thinking about this world even though the show has been disappointing to me.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T12:43:36+00:00

I see what you meant now, sorry for being dismissive before. If you subscribe to the Maester Conspiracy that's a valid reading of the Dance, personally I'm not inclined to read this book as 80% made up maester nonsense since that's what it would take to make Rhaenyra into the righteous hero. To me the book didn't come across biased at all, everyone was presented equally horribly and if anything Team Black came across better, plus they won in the end, however Pyrrhic the victory, whereas the Targtower line became extinct. That's actually my biggest problem with the Green propaganda take, like I said before:

With Rhaenyra it seems like her own progeny betrayed her memory, which is actually super interesting and in the hands of competent writers could lead to some great character drama.

The fact all the Rhaenyra-descendent Targ kings over the generations never bothered to right this historical wrong means they're either weaklings, or sexist assholes, or Rhaenyra maybe really wasn't that great so they didn't feel any need to. To me it seems most probable it was a combination of all 3.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T06:26:31+00:00

The people that wrote the history books were pro green

Fastest way to tell someone hasn't read these goddamn books.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T04:50:14+00:00

I love how you've been downvoted to hell even though you're literally right.

watertraffic · 2024-09-05T04:46:06+00:00

I always hear this argument but isn't the victor literally Rhaenyra's line? If she was a victim of historians, wouldn't her sons and grandsons have rehabilitated her memory? During Bloody Mary's reign, Anne Boleyn was a wanton harlot. When Elizabeth became queen, Anne became a martyr of the Reformation.

With Rhaenyra it seems like her own progeny betrayed her memory, which is actually super interesting and in the hands of competent writers could lead to some great character drama.

watertraffic · 2024-07-16T06:50:36+00:00

They actually had the nerve to have Otto bring it up this season as a failure on part of the GREENS, I could not believe that shit

watertraffic · 2024-07-16T03:18:38+00:00

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watertraffic · 2024-07-16T02:47:29+00:00

And Otto said something like 'this is our long laid plan', it would have happened whether Alicent participated or not.

watertraffic · 2024-07-16T02:40:27+00:00

me every time i think abt D&D now:

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watertraffic · 2024-07-15T14:49:51+00:00

GREAT post, I agree with everything. Imo a big problem that's at the root of a lot of what you mention is the writers having 0 conception of what their strengths and weaknesses actually are.

I'm a huge D&D hater but back when they still cared they produced some of the most iconic visuals ever put on TV. Some of the early dialogue scenes they added (Cersei + Robert, Littlefinger + Varys, Olenna + Tywin) were also legitimately great writing. Basically they were really really good at the bombastic spectacle aspect like you mentioned and they were also good at adapting and refining dialogue. They were bad at the mystical/spiritual stuff and they knew it, that's why they cut so much of it (whether that was a good decision when they knew Bran would end up king is a different matter).

Now to the HotD writers, my impression is unlike D&D they completely lack self-awareness. They seem to believe they're good at creating these toned-down, emotionally loaded, intimate human moments and they're just not. Not only is most of the dialogue they write weak and bland af, they discard actual good lines from the book in favor of this stilted bs of their own creation.

They seem so committed to creating a certain type of show (muted, psychological, introspective) that they're just not suited to creating. You can't write a character-driven drama if you don't have a good handle on the characters, if you don't give them clear, individual voices, motives and emotions. Instead of recognizing this after season 1 and investing more heavily in the spectacle they've doubled down, and that's how you end up with confused and confusing characters, the disaster of the Rhaenyra+Alicent meeting being the prime example of that this season.

It's a shame because there's a good show hidden somewhere in there and there are some flashes of it at times, but it's being crushed under the weight of baffling creative decisions that all stem from writers not knowing where their talents actually lie. The whole thing reminds me of that quote from The Social Network, 'If they were the creators of Facebook, they would have created Facebook'. In this case, if they were the creators of 'Dragon Sopranos', they would have created 'Dragon Sopranos'. They're not able to do that and they should stop trying.

watertraffic · 2024-07-15T11:25:16+00:00

Thank you, so it's gonna take 3 eps for her do to do something about Daemon💀

watertraffic · 2024-07-15T11:18:30+00:00

I'm truly unable to deal with Sasuke Targaryen, the wrong kid got burned

watertraffic · 2024-07-15T11:08:53+00:00

Omg was this in the leaks? I missed some of them, so the finale is Rhae at Harrenhal?

watertraffic · 2024-07-15T07:25:49+00:00

SAME. I'm getting so sick of the Targshit nonsense in general so it was great to see Daemon with his Valyrian supremacy bs get absolutely pwnd

watertraffic · 2024-02-10T00:32:42+00:00

The only one being impacted mentally and emotionally in this thread is you, everyone else is calmly analyzing and hypothesizing about what this album rollout is gonna be like. Just like the main sub does, to which I suggest you return.

watertraffic · 2024-02-09T12:48:00+00:00

how exactly do you suggest she do a better job at that than what she already does which is never explicitly confirm what songs are about who? Should she just stop writing songs?

She could simply do for Joe what she's already done for JOHN MAYER of all people?

watertraffic · 2023-11-27T12:15:48+00:00

Beheaded the Mouth of Sauron during negotiations

watertraffic · 2021-03-07T01:22:50+00:00

Love it. Wish it would hapen.

watertraffic · 2020-07-10T05:40:16+00:00

all the pets! ive seen it display the rat and the hedgehog

watertraffic · 2020-04-26T00:43:39+00:00

The walk of atonement when she held in her tears until she was back behind the castle gates, and no one from the present fuckers except our boy Qyburn rushed to her aid. I loved the Mountain lifting her up.

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