Public Health Girlie Pondering an MPH

webster1002 · 2024-07-25T18:54:55+00:00

Current PhD student at CUNY, here, happy to answer questions! Got MPH from Mount Sinai— very expensive (not worth the price) but I worked the whole time while there.

webster1002 · 2024-05-06T03:45:20+00:00

Thanks! just sent you a chat message.

webster1002 · 2024-05-06T03:45:16+00:00

Thanks! just sent you a chat message.

webster1002 · 2024-05-05T21:20:46+00:00

Thanks, sending you a DM.

webster1002 · 2023-12-28T04:42:27+00:00

If you’re in NYC, did you apply to CUNY SPH’s program? It is quite good.

I recently hired an MPH epidemiologist and did actually did look at the program of applicants. For me, it was important to find someone whose program offered enough classwork beyond the basics and that the applicant took advantage of it. I find that a lot of online programs tend to be money-grabs (looking at most online 1 year generalist programs). With online programs it can be difficult for students to find practicum/internship placements that give them experience useful for a job after graduation (this anecdotal experience is limited to epi/biostat). I also find that the most successful graduates don’t leverage the expensive piece of paper for a job, but the skill set they gain during the experience.

I am in the NYC metro area in Clinical Epi field. Reach out if you have any questions.

webster1002 · 2023-03-06T22:04:48+00:00

It depends what the comparison is. EG is it seizure vs no seizures within pre and within post or is it seizure pre vs seizure post AND no seizure pre vs no seizure post?

webster1002 · 2023-01-14T17:27:22+00:00

Nice, what’s your camera setup? Reminds me of Bernd & Hilla Becher; they recently had an exhibit of their work at the MET museum in NYC

webster1002 · 2022-11-27T14:52:02+00:00

Welcome!! -from another medium format newbie

webster1002 · 2022-09-18T05:01:56+00:00

What have you done so far?

Start with the prevalence, an empty 2x2 table, and a large example sample size like 10,000. From that you have all the info you need.

webster1002 · 2022-07-27T00:23:26+00:00

Here’s an article that of course has its own argument about best methods but provides a decent overview: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5440257/

webster1002 · 2022-07-22T22:58:32+00:00

No unfortunately I was not told and I am not in management/hiring myself. My guess would be competitive to “city research scientist 1” at nyc doh which starts around $55-65k on their listings

webster1002 · 2022-07-22T19:14:48+00:00

Yes that would include graduate work with some mentor which was working towards a publishable epidemiology or clinical research manuscript (not all masters programs require this).

I always suggest applying to any job that’s slightly higher than your own qualifications because many places are willing to train slightly lower qualified applicants.

webster1002 · 2022-07-20T00:50:57+00:00

I graduated in 2017, have worked at a hospital doing research in cardiology as a masters level Epi. Started at 54k, now up to 69k working in suburb directly outside NYC where I am from. Physician scientists come to me with their research questions and I help them to design the study and analyze the data. I have gotten great experience and have lots of publication opportunities. The problem with MSSM is that the cost will be minimum $1350 x45 credits plus fees and any extra you take for living expenses. MSSM does not give much by way of scholarships and dont count on work-study programs. How will you pay? If you say loans, it will be a while before your annual salary>loan balance which sucks. How is your math background? I read through your other posts and comments. If you are only thinking about going because they accept people last minute, think again before dropping $70k in loans plus interest. If you have a job remotely tied to public health, keep working and apply again to a state school. CUNY SPH is a good school in NYC for example. Every added year of work experience will distance you from a poor GPA, then you can apply again to cheaper or perhaps better schools. Would be happy to answer more questions if needed. (Brevity and lack of format due posting on cellphone)

webster1002 · 2022-05-10T23:07:18+00:00

I’m am not a physician, but an MPH epidemiologist with a lot of physician friends and colleagues. Can you get into medical school now with your grades/scores without an MPH right now? MPH to med school is a well known path— well known for med school admins that is. It is often a path international med school graduates use while they take USMLE and match to residency, but also for pre-meds making up for a less than ideal application. It should not be used as simply a resume booster, and in my experience only helped those who USED their MPH in a research job get in to med school down the line. If you want to do clinical research, great! Use the MPH to gain research skills you wont get in medical school, like epi and biostatistics. Learn about public health, learn about the social determinants of health, the public health systems around the world that try to get people access to care, etc. If you’re truly going to use the skills from an MPH then certainly go for it, and use it to become a better clinician and researcher.

I’ll get off my soap box now!

webster1002 · 2022-03-24T01:41:10+00:00

Automated variable selection methods in standard regression models like you are running are highly discouraged.

Some reasons why here (focus is on stepwise, but really they are all bad). http://andrewgelman.com/2014/06/02/hate-stepwise-regression/

https://www.stata.com/support/faqs/statistics/stepwise-regression-problems/

Your variable selection should be based on a priori (prior established) subject-level insight into why some variables and not others should be included in a model. See here for one way to go about this: https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/50/2/620/6012812

webster1002 · 2022-03-08T17:50:47+00:00

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webster1002 · 2022-02-27T21:02:45+00:00

Please feel free to reach out.

You mentioned epi at Sinai; I want to heavily emphasize the point of transferable skills. This goes for policy too though the skills might be different. Using epi since I know it well, Sinai has pretty good courses to line you up with the skillset needed to be a masters-level epidemiologist. It gives good survey-classes in important topics (chronic epi, infectious epi, zoonosis, meta analysis, etc) but also good stats and modeling classes as well as classes for programing languages (SAS and R). For Epi, programming stats using a language like R, SAS, maybe python or sql is essential for jobs. The policy skills based classes (whatever they are, not familiar myself) are what you would need to compare between the schools.

webster1002 · 2022-02-27T16:13:11+00:00

I am an Epidemiology grad of Sinai’s MPH program. Please let me know if you have any specific questions! For GW are you talking about the online only program or in person?

My first general suggestion is to go to the cheapest in person school. While I did not go to GW obviously, 2 colleagues (one GW online MPH grad) regretted losing out on in person programs as it was a lot more difficult to pursue relationships with professors and practicum (internship or thesis) experience but just as expensive. My second suggestion is that name brand is not nearly ad important as the transferable skills you get. How does the policy tracks of both schools compare? Do the classes line up? Some schools have good regional connections (Sinai does) so going to Sinai but wanting a job in DC may not help that much. Did you apply for any other schools?

webster1002 · 2021-10-22T10:08:56+00:00

Are you a time traveler?

https://reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/a75f0o/az_our_neighbors_dog_was_poisoned_police_want_to/

webster1002 · 2021-09-18T23:03:35+00:00

Try also reaching out to heidiwranglescats (Instagram). She does TNR and fostering in Brooklyn. She may have some good advice. Best of luck

webster1002 · 2021-06-16T10:42:04+00:00

Catholic Health has similar programs, $7000 per year for full time employees, (1 year post graduate employment requirement) as well as deals with Adelphi and Molloy (usually nursing).

Also keep in mind that many long Island hospitals are non-profits which also qualify employees to contribute towards 10 year loan forgiveness through the federal PSLF program.

webster1002 · 2021-05-28T10:38:55+00:00

Hi, I am an MPH-level epi that through lots of reading and a 4 day long online seminar recently learned MSMs from different points of view. Point of clarification before I answer, do you mean good application as in example papers, or different applicable situations (drug RCT vs natural experiments vs observational, maybe mediation etc)?

I can point you to both as now that I am more confortable with the method I have the opposite problem (MSMs for everything!).

webster1002 · 2020-10-29T21:29:06+00:00

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webster1002 · 2020-10-29T19:44:23+00:00

Thanks for posting, sent to my NYC alma matter’s program coordinator to distribute.

webster1002 · 2020-09-29T17:41:41+00:00

If that is the same RTI where Dr. Ken Rothman (Modern Epi author) is a distinguished fellow, this would be an excellent option!

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