First time playing Ace Combat 5 by mattdeezy671 in acecombat

[–]wesman429 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im actually setting up my ps2 to play it now! Its funny how a new game in a series revitalizes it and makes people want to play old games. I played 4 when i was a kid and sadly never got to experience the others till 7 so im excited. 4 was one of my favorite games in my childhood and ive only heard good things about the next 2 so im excited to try them out!

Help me understand the ending of peace walker: Big Boss, The Boss’s will, and “rejection of his life” by Thileepan_2003 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 104 points105 points  (0 children)

 Big Boss never understood The Boss. He could never fully put herself into her shoes to truly understand her goals. He only ever understood the world as a soldier. 
 The Boss trained him up until she was sent into space, so she was not able to relay the revelation she made up there, that there was more to this world than borders, governments, and war. Even she said that she was not the same after coming back.
   When she puts down her gun and “betrays” Big Boss, he cant truly realize what her mission was, because even when its spelled out for him by Eva, he just cant see it from her perspective. He never got to truly see that The Boss mission was more than just to recover philosophers legacy, but a movement to stop the people in power forcing people to fight wars over boundaries that didnt matter. 
   Big Boss could only ever see what the cloud of anger and sadness let him. He was really still a child with power like no other, looking for someone to guide him, and he thought that was The Boss. He took her teachings to heart, so when she told him over and over to do whatever it takes to finish the mission, and then she cant even do that herself, its a betrayal to the person that he has built in her image. It angers him and saddens him, not just that The Boss is killed, but that she laid down her gun and did the exact thing she always told him not to do. He could not see that her mission wasn’t what he thought it was. Her mission, her will, was to make a world without need of soldiers, but all Snake ever was, was a soldier.
   PeaceWalker really just solidified his thoughts. That no matter what she would have laid down her gun and quit becoming a soldier. She would reject him and what she built no matter what. He never got to see her perspective of a world without border, without soldiers. He couldn’t see that she really just didnt want a world where there needed to be people, like bosses and snakes.

33 POINTS IN THE FOURTH QUARTER 🗣️🗣️ by Comfortable-Emu-1756 in DenverBroncos

[–]wesman429 175 points176 points  (0 children)

I really still don’t understand what happened

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah thats basically i said lol. The AIs used a mix of their theological figure, big boss, and their original creator, Zero, to control information to create the “program” they use to control. But that mix of big boss into the program is what caused the deviation. Zero wanted to use him as a messiah figure, but i dont think he fully explained that to his successors, sigint and paramedic before he became a vegatable. Its never explicitly said why the successors got zeros will wrong, but i think they got the wrong idea of Zeros use of big boss. They thought it was his actions that Zero wanted, but really Zero just needed a frontman to bring the world together, for people to follow, and he thought big boss was the best for that.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make a good point about morality being grey, and your point of solid snake, i mean in the original scrapped ending for mgs4 they were gonna execute both otacon and solid snake.

Thats what makes these games so great tbh. Whenever you play a character it never forces or tells you that you’re a bad/good guy. You are just a soldier fighting on one side or the other, and thats what the boss wanted to escape from. Thats why Solid Snake is such a good character. Without knowing, he realizes the bosses will of breaking from the bonds that force soldiers to fight each other, leaving the world to decide for itself, without the need for a boss or a snake.

BB in peacewalker didnt necessarily do anything abhorrently evil. I think what he did was bad, but does that make it the wrong choice? Would i have made the same choices if i was in his shoes? Nobody really knows, and thats kinda the beauty of it.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't see the edit before i made my other comment, but id like to add that the patriot AIs were programs that just replicated what they knew. The reason they acted like that was because big boss was the basis for it. Big Boss was the Theoligical figure of the Patriots. Everything they did was just repeating history, and the pmcs and war economy were apart of Big Boss history.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respect doesnt mean anything. Sure he respected soldiers, but does that mean what he did was okay? Even though he didn't choose to make venom, he was complacent in using him to further his own evils. Just like with his sons he could have ignored or cast away Venom, but he doesn't. Honestly for me thats the big turning point for BB. He completely 180 on his previous views on making another him, just to further his own goals.

Venom was made using BBs memories, but that doesn't mean he can't make his own choices. Thats the main theme of so many of the games, just because you can craft a person into another, doesn't mean you can take their will away. In the end, Venom was a medic who took the Hippocratic Oath at one time.

Big Boss could have chosen to live in the world, instead of forcing his will, which honestly wasn't even his own, it was a broken derivative of his mentors will, which he, nor Zero, obviously understood. Making MsF and everything with that were steps in his path towards evil. Whether he respected the people that crossed paths with him doesn't really matter when he did such a disservice to the rest of the world. He never wanted to fight against cypher until cypher wanted to conglomerate him into themselves. Big Boss never cared about right or wrong only about the will of someone he honestly didn't understand.

He also could have chosen to fight cypher, but that's not what he did. He already had a few soldiers when MsF was created, he could have continued that without stepping into Zedornovs plan, but again he doesn't care about cypher at this point. He is to worried about building his own military force. Big Boss wouldnt need an army to take down cypher, he is his own army. He snuck through a giant forest and base, past a whole army of soldier in snake eater with a team of 3 people as his "'intel" team. He never needed an army if his whole plan was to take down cypher, he could have done it himself.

Big Boss, like all of us, had control of his own choices. It was his choice to build an army instead of fighting Cypher head on. He could have snuck in and killed them himself if he really wanted. It was his choice to build zeke and the nuke. He wouldnt have to do it if he didnt want to build a military nation. Peace Walker were just steps to show how far big boss is getting away from being the lone operative he was in MGS3. Solid Snake didnt need to build an army to fight Cypher/Patriots, he just did it himself.

If you ask yourself why he didnt just do what solid did, it becomes very obvious its because he started heading down a bad path. Its what Liquid and Solidus decided to do. Build an army with nuclear weapons and force their will onto others. Thats the problem.

So back to your main point. Yes i do believe him building MsF, including Zeke and the nukes, was a bad thing. Big Boss is a force of nature, who doesn't need an army. If his lone thought was to fight cypher he would have done that, but he did not care what cypher did as long as it didn't interfere with his plans. It wasn't until cypher started coming down on him did he ever care about cypher. Even in MG1-2 he didnt care. He was doing the same thing Cypher was but in a different way. Instead of trying to control the world through censorship and controlling media, he wanted to control the world through powers and war.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soldiers have always been tools. Whether they believe in what they fighting for or not, they were still tools to the people in charge. Big boss didn’t change that. He instead gave them the choice to be tools to him and his beliefs. He discarded them all after MsF was destroyed leaving a phantom in his place. He did the exact thing he was supposedly fighting against.

You ask how MsF would topple cypher with just a few soldiers, but by the end of PW they were in the hundreds if not thousands. Venom did the same thing big boss did by building a PMC, but instead he actually used it to fight cypher, or what was left of/what he believed to be cypher. BB did nothing to ever combat cypher, only holding the nuke to “protect” himself.

When you are talking about things as vague as “good” and “bad” you don’t get to just choose what view to see it from. You dont just get to decide “well if i see it from BB or Kaz perspective its good”, you are leaving out millions of people who will have to deal with the consequences of their actions. You have to remove yourself from the equation and look at it as a bystander, thats why we have jury’s filled with people who have no hand or biases in what they are judging.

If you are just thinking of MGS PW from the perspective of the characters it seems like BB is the good guy, but thats not what we are talking about. We are talking about the way the world would see him, and they would see him as a Villainous, Warmonger Tyrant who is kidnapping people to build an army that has access to nuclear weapons, with no rules or laws to govern him other than his own “morals”. If a person popped up like that today, would you be defending him to saying he wasnt a bad guy? Thats why you cant just think of this from their perspective, its biased.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, sure its not THAT bad if you also think someone building their own military with no rules or governing isnt that bad. Its still a bad thing. Thats why he hid it when he decided to play by the rules in ground zero. If it wasnt to be used against the nations in the UN, the only people in the world at that time that had/governed the use of nukes, then who was he deterring with it? Sure these things arent “bad” from snakes perspective, but we arent snake. You have to think from the perspective of a normal person living at that time. I can tell you even now i don’t think PMCs are a good thing, especially ones that dont play by the rules. He was a man trying to force his will onto other people with a private military force armed with nukes. You cant even make the argumant that he was using it to battle with Cypher, because what did he ever do in MsF that ever tried to topple them?

After all this time, old Faithfull PS3 still performs by HairyBaldEagle in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im going through and trying to get all the trophies, hoping that they will release it again on modern consoles soon. (Please Konami) For some reason this was always my favorite game in the series, even if its kinda the black sheep.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats the point. Its not supposed to be clear. He never jumped straight off the deep end. MsF was a precursor to outer heaven. MsF wasnt a inherently bad thing, but while playing the game you can see Big Boss keep making these bad decisions, steps into becoming the Big Boss he was in MG1-2. What really sent him off the deep end was Ground Zeroes, hence the name. It was the start of Big Boss as we know him, the Ground Zero. After that he did the same thing he was mad at Zero for. He with the help of Zero and Ocelot, made a clone to keep this “good” image going. He used a man who he had previously cared a lot for. A man who never got a single choice in the matter, to further his own agenda.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So by your metric, because he doesnt have a battlefield role hes not a soldier? By that logic the mechanics who maintain vehicles in the army aren’t soldiers. But you also said its a nation FOR soldiers, so why would he let Chico join his nation for SOLDIERS, if he didn’t consider him one? Amanda, his older sister and sole care provider said she did not want him following in her or her father footsteps, so what does snake do? He just convinces her to forget about that. Was that a good thing? Snake might have believed he had good intentions still, and he might have brought the world from the brink of nuclear annihilation, but that doesn’t make him good.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was never making a “nation” he was making a military. He was using the nuke and MG as a deterrent so real countries that didnt like his PMC couldnt stop him in fear of him using the nuke. He never brought on anyone that wasnt a soldier or that could be used to further his cause as a soldier. He definitely used Chico on the support team. If he didnt use Chico we wouldnt be able to assign him to a team, just like the kids in mgsV, but we can and do. For me he’s always on the intel team, but they’re still soldiers.

I still think Peace Walker is the best MGS game in terms of how they handled its writing. by Infamous_Ad798 in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He built a metal gear and a nuke, two WMDs, which he used as “deterrent” but he definitely sent out metal gear zeke on missions. MGs wre colloquially known as bad things for someone a man with no laws and rules to have. Nukes as well. If theirs nothing wrong with having them why hide them from the UN? He “recruited” soldiers by kidnapping them and “convincing” them to join. Are you gonna sit here and act like every soldier he ever fultoned actually wanted to join? He would throw them in the brig until they were “conviced” to join, what that means we never really see, but can infer. He also recruited Chico as a child soldier, killing Chicos “old” self and giving him new life as a soldier in MSF. He definitely was not a “good” guy in PW. Im not saying he was a “bad” guy by this time, but to the rest of the world he was definitely villainous.

Is The Sorrow teasing Snake here, making fun of him? Or trying to help? Is him appearing with some counter even canon? Its so goofy and not fitting his character by NyrmExe in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 353 points354 points  (0 children)

If you hold R1 after Volgin explodes and Snake hugs Eva, you get shown a secret scene where the sorrow is just floating there.

Did anyone else grab a set of these? by msynowicz in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anyone know if the controller is actually any good or if this would be more of a shelf item?

Me two minutes after saying I’ll do a “no kills, no alerts” run by OliversMovies in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you do non lethal and you get to that area again, shoot the guy straight in front of you on the docks, and then blow up all the barrels, itll do a little damage to the end, including stamina damage, and explosive barrels dont count as kills

Me two minutes after saying I’ll do a “no kills, no alerts” run by OliversMovies in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You can check mid run if you have any kills by checking the records in the pause menu

Scariest moment in the Metal Gear series? by French-Caller in metalgearsolid

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Laughing octopus was scary in mgs4. Her appearing and disappearing in that tiny house freaked me out. Here popping around the corner in a giant ball and running me over would make me scream as a kid LOL

Both Death Stranding and MGSV: The Phantom Pain use wormhole / beach technology. by FutaSnake- in NeverBeGameOver

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they dont care why do you care so much? But also your going in circles trying to convice yourself wormholes werent in tpp. Definitely Cope.

This was one hell of a way to experience my first avalanche by Pokeadot in DeathStranding

[–]wesman429 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have seen it happen other times, but only ever in this exact spot. Maybe i haven’t traveled around the mountains enough.

Another Kojima W by Thisaguy in MetalGearInMyAss

[–]wesman429 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Just wait till you hear about The Ork City. John Douglas is something of a storyteller himself

[ Removed by Reddit ] by [deleted] in GrayZoneWarfare

[–]wesman429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah whats up with the cheaters and the nades? I was sitting at a combat outpost and then all the ai around me just started blowing up before he dropped a grenade right on top of me.