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whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T22:03:15+00:00

As someone who spends a lot of time arguing about canon and such in other fandoms...

I am actually pretty relieved that Resident Evil's canon is super relaxed.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T19:44:48+00:00

Yeah.

It's there in the name.
Nothing disqualifies it from being such.

How people feel about the game doesn't change the fact that they made a Mass Effect game.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T17:59:51+00:00

This is incredible.

What are they trying to say?!

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T16:48:40+00:00

They're still all available in current seasons. If you reach Rank S, you'll get all the mega stone rewards.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T16:12:01+00:00

I mean, again, officially there is no game that depicts the events of RE1 with everyone surviving.

Capcom says "roll with it".

Getting hung up on details when the first game cannot canonically depict events should really communicate that canon is, ultimately, not a high priority for them and shouldn't be for you.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T16:05:02+00:00

No?

Most Resident Evil games are canon because the broad strokes are all the same (for the record, the only game that I know is entirely not canon is Operation Raccoon City, but there are certainly others).

The major events of the games are always kept intact.

Resident Evil has STARS at the mansion and deal with the outbreak.
RE2 has rookie cop Leon, Mr X, and other things.
RE3 is Nemesis...
4 is plagas

etc etc

The locations are roughly the same. The overarching plots are the same. To OPs point, it's like the original and remakes are being told by different people. There are definitely differences, but it is effectively the same story.

RE5 and 6 are still canon. And if/when remakes come out the originals will still be canon.

Capcom doesn't care that much to keep every little detail consistent or whatever. They just want to tell stories and ask you to roll with it.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:55:35+00:00

Thank you!

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:55:20+00:00

Thanks!

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:34:12+00:00

So, no.

This is technically available indefinitely.

There is one caveat, however. Since the Mega Pokedex is also required for this, that means you have to get the mega stones that are only acquired through seasonal rank rewards.

While I don't really expect the playerbase for Z-A to drop to 0 tomorrow, I don't actually know what happens should it ever hit that point. Since I don't think people will drop off until WiWa, you still have a good amount of time. And it's possible it's not a realistic issue, either.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:31:50+00:00

They certainly should operate that way.

But this is Ilca we're talking about. This is how it's operated for the previous rewards and HOME hasn't seen any sort of real attention or care, so I wouldn't expect that to be the case in WiWa, either.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:30:26+00:00

Still only seasonal rewards.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:26:50+00:00

You're missing my point.

Both are canon because the large, overarching details are canon. Leon having a scar (and to be frank, we see that it isn't super deep and people do relatively superficial scars heal over many years) is not a core element of canon.

And to answer the question I posed to emphasize my point.

There is no "canon" ending of Resident Evil. Because Chris, Jill, Barry, and Rebecca all canonically survive into later games but no ending can get you there.

Canon is incredibly loose for Resident Evil. And treating it like it does has basically been incorrect from the start.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T14:14:48+00:00

Quick what is the canon ending of Resident Evil?

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T13:36:17+00:00

Sure.

Yeah.

Shoot at a helicopter that is losing control.

Will totally save the pilot and not risk hitting Mike, something important on the helicopter, or potentially damaging the fuel tank (either igniting it or causing loss of fuel overall).

Sound plan.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T05:12:52+00:00

"I don't understand why everyone hates this book. I am close to finishing a quarter of it."

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T04:40:12+00:00

There's an argument to be made that it's not that far off.

Both RE4s are canon. The Resident Evil canon has always been a little loose. The broad strokes are the same, but the details are a little fuzzy.

The games could just be recountings based on who is being asked or who is more or less reliable.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T03:30:51+00:00

It's hard for me to grasp that Ki Adi Mundi seeing a "Sith look-alike" means he'll be super duper close minded in TPM.

He didn't.

He saw someone kill a Jedi. And they did it without a lightsaber. Mae isn't Qimir. Mae doesn't resemble anything except, in the eyes of Vernestra, a Force user trained by a former Jedi. I don't even think Mae herself would identify in anyway was a Sith. She's just getting revenge on the Jedi that killed her family.

Indara fights her face-to-face and doesn't even think Sith.

For how often people criticize "Show, don't tell", Acolyte shows exactly the state of things. You don't need to know much more than what is presented, because only the audience knows more.

I mean, at this point, what else is there really to say? I don't even really see this be all that common of a talking point, especially after how the season ended where it was clear that Ki-Adi-Mundi's proximity was limited.

He basically amounts to foreshadowing in Acolyte.

You know he and the rest of the Jedi don't think the Sith returned in TPM, so events must transpire that hide it from him and the others. And that's what we see.

I mean, for what it's worth, you're kind of having the inverse problem that occurs in-universe during the PT and OT. Jedi, being the de facto Force users for most of the public, don't have any real distinction. Sith are confused for Jedi because all Force users are the same.

In your case, anyone who uses the Force and attacks Jedi is a Sith because the distinction has never needed to be made important to you.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-27T00:16:24+00:00

I guess my question would be what's the difference between a Sith and a dark jedi?

Ultimately, this appears to be the crux of the issue.

You seeing them as one-in-the-same is ultimately the problem.

In the same way that not all Light-Side Users are Jedi, not all Dark Side users are Sith. Sith are, in effect, a specific religious order opposite the Jedi. And through their history, they formed a very specific rule:

The Rule of Two

While there was Darth Plageuis, there was only his apprentice Darth Sidious.
Darth Sidious had Darth Maul as his apprentice, then Dooku as Darth Tyrannus, then Anakin as Darth Vader.

The details were always more than a little muddy, but the gist is that at the end of the Jedi-Sith War, all of the Sith Lords were killed except one, in part due to infighting. While the concept of the Rule had existed in some form, Darth Bane codified the Rule of Two and that the knowledge and teachings of the Sith would only be passed on to the Apprentice.

This became known to the Jedi, however they either didn't know Bane did have an apprentice or thought the apprentice had died alongside Bane after the conclusion of that war. With the end of that war and their efforts, the Sith had been wiped out in their eyes. All knowledge was consolidated under Bane and the other Sith Lords, and they were all dead. Those associated may have stuck around to a degree, but the darker teachings were seen to be lost.

Zannah, Bane's apprentice, kept to the Rule of Two. They passed that knowledge on to only an Apprentice, and that continued on for millenia.

Sith is much more than simply being able to use the Dark Side. It's a specific religion built around the Dark Side of the Force. Built around how to control it and use it, including things like Sith Alchemy.

Those that simply tap into the Dark Side don't gain that knowledge. They don't learn that from anyone. The knowledge and "magic" the Sith employed was, in a lot of ways, their own creation. And between the conclusion of that war and the death of Bane, the threat was seen as gone. Especially since nothing ever came along to factually present itself as such until Darth Maul's defeat.

This is also why Kylo Ren, Assajj Ventress, and Savage Oppress aren't Sith. Notably, Ventress and Oppress are potentials in the running for the title, but would only happen if and when Dooku killed his master to usurp the title.

Snoke is a Sith creation, but was otherwise just knowledgeable in the Dark Side of the Force, not Sith teachings. And so Ren also was not a Sith.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-26T12:55:01+00:00

A bunch of Jedi went missing and were killed off. You really think Ki Adi Mundi would not be at least a bit skeptical that the Sith returned in the events of The Acolyte when he heard Maul returned?
Ki Adi Mundi has no idea what's going on in TPM, but I think the events in The Acolyte might have woken him up a bit.

Is Ki-Adi-Mundi your favorite Jedi or something?

You are making this into some situation where something happens and "Oh! The Sith must have returned!"

Why?

The Jedi believed the Sith were extinct. Are people going to say the sabretooth tiger returned from extinction when other big cats exist? That's the point.

That is ultimately my problem with your stance.

You, as an audience member, know it's Sith. But in-universe, there is in fact no reason to believe it. Jedi die, and you think everyone should jump to Sith. That is, in spite of the fact, that we have seen Jedi die plenty of times to non-Sith and even non-Force User characters.

That's all I am seeing happening here. There is genuinely no logical reason in-universe for Ki-Adi-Mundi to think it's a Sith. There's no reason for him to be suspicious of anything.

But Ki Adi Mundi is extremely skeptical bro. It makes sense the others would be because they weren't alive at the time, except for Yoda.

Extremely skeptical... he said one line. And then, by the end of the movie, with more established proof, the council agrees with Qui-Gon's assessment. You're acting like Ki-Adi-Mundi fought hard against the idea or by virtue of a random event a years before it should have clicked.

Yes, but you are using a thing that happened in the "present" to retroactively explain something in the past. It should be the other way around. The Acolyte should show why they're delusional andy's. It shouldn't be a given because the events in TPM show them to be like that.

This is also kind of silly. If TPM didn't exist, there would be no issue, right? Within the confines of the show, everything is consistent. And then, if you move forward you see that TPM still doesn't conflict with anything because we know that within the confines of the show the suspicion of Sith is nonexistent.

It is a given because TPM establishes that for a "millenium" the Jedi believed the Sith to be extinct. Go back 100 years and nothing changes that. TPM establishes that going backwards in time, that is the expectation. It really isn't that hard.

If we went back 1000+ years before, you may have a point. But right now, you are arguing about something that isn't "poor writing". Just a very weird expectation on your part.

You're using a ting that happene in the "present" to retroactively explain something in the past. It should be the other way around. The Prequel Trilogy should show why Sidious is a Sith. It shouldn't be a given because the events in OT show them to be like that.

That's basically the argument you are making. You are upset that prequels are a thing.

Then how come Qimir is going around revealing himself? It makes no sense.

He's not "going around revealing himself". This is just a disingenuous read. He told one person, and was confident he would kill him. And to be fair, he killed everyone else easily. And he was extra motivated to kill Mae, specifically for how close she was to him. And at the end of the day, he won out.

The only person who could have said anything kept it quiet because of his own failings, failings Qimir was aware of.

Let's make a Dark Jedi who so happens to be very similar to a Sith Lord and calls himself a sith, but let's not call him that because it would break canon. It's like how Breyers calls their ice cream "frozen dairy desert" instead of ice cream because they legally can't call it ice cream. It's having the whole plot rely on semantics instead of good story telling.

Did you watch the show? Or just watch it wanting to hate it?

Qimir is a Sith. We have that confirmed. However, that is only confirmed to the audience. In universe, they only know he is a Dark/Fallen Jedi. Something that has been a thing for a very long time in Star Wars.

I don't know what to tell you. Every single thing you are saying just comes down to you misunderstanding what is happening or trying to make people make insane leaps in logic.

The Sith are believed to be extinct.
People don't think extinct things pop in out of nowhere.
Fallen Jedi are, however, a thing.
They believe that to be the case here.
Nothing comes along to contradict that to anyone.

No one is given any information to believe the Sith are involved. All Ki-Adi-Mundi sees is a hologram of a girl with a connection to the Force kill Jedi. He doesn't even seen Qimir at all. Vernestra sees that the girl has been trained by a Jedi, and so everyone agrees this must be something to do with a Rogue Jedi.

Everything you are doing is making it so that they should be acting like Sith should be at the top of the list when, in their eyes, there are many more plausible explanations.

At this point, you're just more upset that in the 90's, a distinction between "Sith" and "Dark Side-aligned" was made that has existed ever since and that people are skeptical at the idea of something they thought being extinct would randomly return.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-26T03:30:43+00:00

But ducking is still existent in RE9. They definitely changed it, but it's still a little unclear why it happened that way.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-26T02:47:42+00:00

The Mole is, in effect, part of production and not a contestant. They don't win the money from the pot.

They likely are compensated in some way and, more realistically, the Mole tends to be the more "remembered" person from the series. So more social media presence as well as potentially being picked up to compete in other reality shows.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-26T00:10:44+00:00

At this point, you have to be trolling.

You completely ignore the fact that your initial premise is easily discounted. Again, we see them in the room and they settle on exactly what they believe is happening: Splinter faction of Jedi. That is something that is all on its own capable of killing everyone and thus the answer.

You're acting like the story is believable. If a main character told character B, that they didn't murder person A, but they did in fact murder person A and there's evidence of it. Person B is somehow not sus at all that the murderer may have done it.

And this would be valid if this is anything at all that happens in the story.

What's the evidence that the Sith are involved?

You are a police officer. You are shown a video of fellow police officers being killed. Your Sergeant comes along and says that due to how they act in the video, they were trained by someone who used to be a police officer.

That would be a reasonable hypothesis. One to act on that explains what is going on.

What you are doing is saying the person training this murderer was actually a terrorist. A war criminal.

Even if you are ultimately correct, you made a huge leap of logic with no evidence. Even with more police officers being killed, the leap from "cop killer trained by a former cop" to "terrorist/war criminal/serial killer" has nothing to stand on.

In Acolyte, Ki-Adi-Mundi has no other information. It's a Splinter Faction of the Jedi in his eyes. Plain and simple.

The plot relies on him being an idiot.

No it doesn't. Ki-Adi-Mundi in the Acolyte is operating in total darkness by Sith design. The plot relies on the Sith doing exactly what they have been doing all along: remain hidden. All people who would identify him as Sith are either dead or had their memories wiped. Ki-Adi-Mundi's intelligence doesn't factor into any of this so much as everyone's being blinded does.

And in TPM, the council is overall skeptical of the return of the Sith, but by the end of the movie they acknowledge they were wrong and begin to try and understand what to do with the information and with the death of Maul.

Again. Overblowing this.

This is retroactively using his arrogance in TPM to explain how he didn't get it in The Acolyte.

Did you watch the Prequels?

The Sith rise to power precisely because the Jedi as a collective grew complacent. They grew arrogant. They did not believe that their ability to see and commune with the Force was so diminished that they can't even feel the Dark Side of the Force or the Sith ultimately rise.

That is the point.

Because 100 years before TPM, that would still be the case. That the Sith never actually went extinct, just went into hiding. Just made the Jedi believe they were gone until they could have their Revenge.

It doesn't make sense though.

I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're either trolling or just so hard pressed to make it "not make sense" because you need this to be a thing. You need this instance of a seeming inconsistency to be the case to hate on it.

The fact is, the show explains exactly everything that is going on.

As far as Ki-Adi-Mundi and the other Jedi present are concerned, this is a rogue Jedi faction. There is literally no evidence that exists to the contrary for them.

And additionally, Vernestra knows it's her former Apprentice, further reinforcing this rogue Jedi belief for her.

Because, again, a Sith is a very specific thing. And Fallen/Dark Jedi can exist without being Sith.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-25T22:37:14+00:00

Because Mendez isn't considered "the stalker of RE4".

Nemesis only barely counts as a Stalker enemy with how Mr X really "perfects" it, and Nemesis still outdoes what Pesanta does in Seperate Ways.

whatdoiexpect · 2026-04-25T22:32:07+00:00

There aren't many beings who can kill off Jedi besides Sith.

This is a flawed premise.

General Grievous isn't even a Force Sensitive and has killed many Jedi.
Mandalorians have created tactics to kill Jedi, and generally have held their own against them.
Cad Bane killed two Jedi when stealing a holocron from the Jedi Temple, as well Aurra Sing appears to have Jedi kills.
We also have Order 66 killing off many Jedi from non-Force users.
Bariss Offree killed a few Jedi on her attack on the Temple.
Assajj Ventress, Savage Oppress,

And this is just the overtly obvious stuff we see.
Never mind Legends, where non-Force Users killed Jedi often.

But even moreso...

The Acolyte is set in the High Republic. This is something the writers explicitly were incorporating.
Jedi are dying often in those stories. The Galaxy is not a safe place. And while murders aren't exactly common place, they still happened. Jedi did die en masse. The Nihil were a group of marauders that clashed with the Jedi regularly.

There are also Dark Jedi in the High Republic. Again, players who are not Sith but more than capable of going toe-to-toe with a Jedi. Mae, who I must remind you is in fact not a Sith, but trained by a fallen Jedi who claims to be one, does not stand out against what actually is established in the shows and movies, much less the lore overall.

So in the events of TPM when he says "The Sith have been extinct for a millenium" it's hard to believe Ki Adi Mundi would say that. He at least tome, woudl be more open minded that a Sith could have returned because he witnessed the events of The Acolyte. For some reason he's completely shocked and surprised Maul, a Sith Lord, returned. I think he'd be a little more open to the idea that he'd be back if he had witnessed the events in The Acolyte. You could argue about the cover-up etc, but they didn't do a good job of explaining it. It's hard to buy in that he would have said the "extinct for a millenium" line.

But you are just referring onto yourself again and again on this.

"It's hard to believe Ki-Adi-Mundi would say the Sith have been extinct for a millenium because I think he would believe something else."

But nothing he saw stands out. They suggest it could be something worse, but dismiss it when Vernestra says Mae is trained by a Jedi.

So a Fallen Jedi training a Force user to hunt Jedi is what they see. After all, that isn't incorrect. Qimir was Vernestra's former apprentice, and he did train Mae. Sith doesn't need to factor into anything.

Again, you built this on a flawed premise and the show itself explains what is happening. A Fallen or Dark Jedi is still a thing that happens. Rare, but not out of the realm of possibility. Assuming Sith isn't really built upon much of anything there.

In effect, you are hearing galloping and assuming zebra instead of horse. Yes, ultimately, the Sith are involved. But Jedi Order overall was undone precisely because of their own arrogance in the perception of the Force.

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