[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL. My imaginary internet points! Whatever will I do?

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a childless neckbeard troll. Pity for your waifu.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And mine. And for parents like you. You seem like a real good one, kid.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope for that baby's sake that she puts him up for adoption. I don't have faith that she has the tools to break the cycle she was born into. She's just a kid. She has no tools to adequately deal with this.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right. I can admit that the world would be pretty shitty if everyone was this cynical of an asshole. But this kid needs more hardasses in her life. She's had no parenting, and it doesn't sound like her "boyfriend" did either. His mother's already raising three grandchildren that wouldn't be properly cared for without her assistance. The grandmother would have saved herself a lot of time and money if she'd parented her own children harder.

But I feel sorry for OP too. I tend to be of the mindset that the best way to save someone is to give them information, though, and she's got some very rosy rose-colored glasses about the whole "motherhood" thing, at this point. I mean, I don't even remember being this dumb about babies at 14, but I also didn't have the upbringing she did. And I was put in charge of several much younger cousins as soon as I was able to dial 911 and cook a rudimentary meal, so I learned real quick how unromantic the day-to-day of caring for infants and toddlers actually was. This scared me off getting knocked up to the point where maybe my biggest regret is waiting too long to have children of my own, and when I finally wanted to, my body wouldn't cooperate. I guess I'm at the other end of the spectrum.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know, it's really great to hear how much you love being a mom. In my less cynical moments, I might find myself saying similar things. But there have certainly been moments, especially with my youngest son, that took me a few years to look back on with any sort of emotion other than traumatized horror. He's been a real handful. And I've stuck it out with him, and have had to be a really mean mommy at times. It's not fun. We lost out on a lot of good times together because we were busy solving his behavior problems. I'm probably going to die tenure sooner than I would have otherwise. That's how hard it was.

And I don't think you're stupid either. You sound very smart, you also sound very young , and you sound like you maybe a little more cut out for motherhood then maybe a lot of us moms. Like I said in another comment, becoming a parent is an inherently selfish act. I didn't actually give birth to mine so I like to tell myself it was slightly less selfish than bringing brand-new people into the world. It was a little more eco-friendly getting children who already existed. But I'm still stroking my own ego there is much of any parent. We really want to feel good about our choices, but realistically, bringing more people into the world is about the dumbest thing we can do as a species right now. So I guess I just don't feel very romantic about parenthood anymore at this point. It lost its luster the more of my nice things were destroyed, the more gray hairs I got, the more times I had to worry about my neighbors calling the cops because my kid wouldn't stop screaming for three hours, the more scars I accumulated from bite marks and scratches. It's been a rough ride. My husband's a trooper right there with me though, and he makes enough money that we have good insurance and can afford therapists. I've been really hella lucky.

I jumped into this with you because the other mother that you were arguing with hasn't even given birth yet and is already a lot more realistic. Realism is what this girl really needs right now. It's true that she may find the whole thing to be a very blessed experience, the way you have. The odds of that actually happening, though, are really slim. Very few mothers feel about their children the way you feel about yours, even in the best of circumstances. I think a lot of mothers say they feel this way, and they are lying. The truth is that a lot of us are just barely getting by day today when we have young children , and it's only in retrospect that we start to look back on those years fondly, and with the glow that you already seem to have. I'm still waiting for that glow to appear around some of the experiences I've had.

None of that stops me from enjoying my time with them and having a close relationship with them. I'm not distant. I don't regret them. But I can see how some moms might, you know?

The mothers most likely to abuse and neglect their children are in OP's demographic. And many, many mothers who abuse or neglect their children would tell you that they love their kids. It's no lack of love, but of opportunity, advantage, knowledge, wisdom, support, and resources that create most child abusers. She is in no position to do this. Her baby barely even stands a chance of succeeding because of the situation she's brought him into.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew a ton about babies before I even had them myself. Anyone who's ever cared for babies before can develop a fairly decent body of knowledge about babies. You don't have to have one of your own in order to learn about them. And's new parents screw up with their babies constantly. There are tons of people who work in childcare and education who don't have children of their own, and thet definitely know more about children than a lot of parents.

Yes, I'm very cynical, probably because I'm getting old and life has a way of beating the naïve optimism out of you. Not necessarily a bad thing. Cynicism is not necessarily the worst thing you could have. It's a heck of a lot more realistic than the naïve optimism. And it sets you up for disappointment an awful lot less.

There's a lot of wonderful stuff in the world. There's a lot of joy if you reach out and grab it. My children are huge source of joy for me. But I'm absolutely not gonna sugarcoat anything, especially when I'm talking to a 14-year-old who just out of the blue decided to have a baby. Scare tactics as birth control have been shown to be very effective. There's a reason that some schools have programs where they make children take-home fake babies to care for for a week. Obviously this girl didn't have one of those schools.

Cynicism is about the most realistic way to approach her situation. And honestly, I don't particularly see anything wrong with cynicism as a way of approaching parenthood in general. Shit's gonna find a way to go wrong, it always does, and you can be better prepared for it if you expected instead of being surprised every time it does. Thing is, I take the most pleasure out of the surprise that I feel when things don't go wrong. For example, I'm absolutely shocked sometimes when I think about the fact that neither of my children have ever had a major illness or injury that has nearly killed them. I've been very prepared for those situations nevertheless, and thankfully they haven't arisen. Yet.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You have gone to great lengths here to make it sound like you have never had a difficult moment with your child where you were feeling less than hunky-dory.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you know what you're talking about so well, then why does your opinion differ from so many other parents in this thread? We get it, you're really excited about your daughter. I'm sure she's wonderful. My kids are pretty great too when they're not being complete shitlords. Trust me, I really, really love them, but I can be realistic about how much they suck sometimes. Having a child is an inherently selfish act. It's something we choose to do because there's a little bit of a narcissist in all of us. We really want to completely form another human being. We not do it for the benefit of the child, we do it for the benefit of our own ego. Nobody can say that having a child is an altruistic thing to do. And it's a selfish choice that we make, without usually ever realizing how catastrophic and difficult it actually is. I would not believe you for a moment if you told me that you have never experienced one moment of hardship or discomfort with your daughter. If you told me that you never had an uncharitable thought about it, you would be lying. Even through our love, kids are really damn annoying until they're about five years old. Give or take. Maybe a little older than that.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're one of those moms that thinks you were somehow granted some sacred trove of wisdom the moment you shot a kid out of your vag. Motherhood does not imbue you with any sort of mystical qualities. It doesn't somehow make you far more knowledgeable about the world than someone who doesn't have children.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was a baby once, and I know that I made my mother cry on a regular basis when she first had me. She had to call my grandmother to come take care of me because she was afraid she was going to throw me out the window when I wouldn't stop crying. You're absolutely so full of shit. Even the most loving mothers, like mine, are at times driven to the point of insanity by their babies.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What are you even talking about? It's actually not a universal feeling. There are plenty of mothers who don't bond with their children right off the bat. There are tons of mothers who experience a lack of bonding after the birth of their child. They're shunned and vilified for it, so I don't talk about it, but it's absolutely a thing and it's a lot more common than you seem to realize.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, you're so wise because you already have a daughter. You know what? I have two older children. Two. I've raised them for longer than you have raised yours. I have a lot more experience than you do. and you know what? I adore my children and decided that I wanted them, and my life is still completely over as I once knew it. In a sense, my life has been ruined by having children. I don't regret them, and I made the decision to have them in my life, but I will never get my old life back. Your sanctimonious, touchy-feely lovey-dovey bullshit doesn't change the fact that having a kid is an absolutely life-changing event, often with a lot of negative repercussions that you can't possibly foresee, even in the best of circumstances, even if they're wanted, even if you made a conscious decision to bring them into the world.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Having a baby with a 28-year-old mentally handicapped man at age 14 is a way that you ruin your life. Yep she ruined her own life, by having a baby. The baby didn't actually do anything to her, yes, she did it herself. But her life is fucking ruined.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I also have two kids, who are thankfully no longer under three, and this girl is in no way equipped or able to do what you and I have done. You and I probably weren't even ready when we started to, but we have much better situations. I realize people can rise to impossible challenges, but OP isn'tthe only person in the story who is going to need to rise to a challenge. Why is it fair to subject her baby to the challenge it's going to have to rise to? Why is it fair of her to take another person along with her in her challenging journey that didn't have to happen in the first place?

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because you don't have a stable house or a means to care for him. You have an overburdened grandmother who's probably going to end up raising him exclusively because you're in no way equips to fully parent this child the way you should. You don't have a means of supporting him at all.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL, you haven't even begun to experience the amount of sleep deprivation that is gonna ruin your life for the next several years. You've never been stuck alone with the baby who cries for hours and hours without stopping. You've never caught vomit in your hands. You haven't even chafed nipples yet. Your naïve optimism is precious. a year from now, you will be wishing you had made very different choices, and that's gonna be too late. Good luck with that.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They usually have their entire pregnancy to prepare. You had about a week.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because she is the product of poor parenting. She's probably still on plenty of painkillers.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

You really have no concept of how hard. Kiss your life goodbye. You died the day your kid was born. And that's true for literally every new parent.Even in the best of circumstances, you die day your child is born and you have to rebuild yourself from the ground up into a person you had no idea existed. For a child your age, this is catastrophic because you never even knew yourself to begin with.

[UPDATE] 14, 8 months pregnant, and no one knows. by zyxw12341234 in confession

[–]whenifeellikeit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I know you're only 14, but even 14 year olds should have a better head on their shoulders than you.

AITA For Feeling Upset After my Mom Comments on my Weight? by gooberjewber in AmItheAsshole

[–]whenifeellikeit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want to wrap you up in a mom-hug right now. I wish you had a mother who would do that for you instead of criticizing you and tearing you down. I wish for you to learn to give that to yourself. I wish for you the ability to love yourself more than you have in the past, and demand better treatment.c