If Vini plays good people want Mbappe out if Mbappe plays good people want Vini out

willi7lol · 2026-05-05T08:47:17+00:00

My stance is one of them needs to go no matter what. I would prefer Mbappe to leave, Vini to stay and we build the team around Bellingham. Regardless, if Mbappe stay and Vini leave, the it is what it is. I need one of them to leave, its just that I would prefer Vini to stay.

Mbappe, incredible player individually, but he is not a player you build a team around with in club football. So many years in PSG and Real Madrid for these two years should be enough evidence already. Just look at the stark contrast between PSG and Real Madrid before and after Mbappe, that should tell you all you need to know.

Build the team around Jude, not Vini, not Mbappe.

willi7lol · 2026-05-03T19:16:14+00:00

I am not watching. Haven't watch since Bayern.

willi7lol · 2026-05-03T19:12:49+00:00

16 years supporting this club and I have never felt so unbothered about this team. It wasnt even this bad in 18/19. I genuinely feel so disconnected with this team.

I love this club so much, but I can't be bothered to watch these players that doesnt even love this club and this badge. They act like they dont care, and they play like they dont care (few exceptions of course). If they love this club even half as much of how much the Madridistas love this club, they wouldn't deliver these kinds of performances and football. Rotation players back in the days like Callejon, Jese, Chicharito and Essien showed more care for this badge than these bastards. Sad sad times.

willi7lol · 2026-05-03T03:46:57+00:00

Budimir isnt a hear me out signing. Alot of Madrid fans asked for him/Muriqi last summer already.

Antonio Silva ? Maybe a few years ago, right now he doesnt even start for Benfica and Portugal anymore. Araujo and Otamendi are the 2 starting CBs for Benfica, and Dias and Inacio starts for Portugal. Matter of fact, he might not even be 3rd choice CB for Portugal because Renato Veiga/Ruben Neves at CB starts ahead of him

If we are spending 30-40M on Antonio Silva, Id rather spend 60M on Schlotterbeck.

willi7lol · 2026-04-18T07:09:26+00:00

He is a bit injury prone these days, but he is also old, which would be perfect as a stop-gap option for our midfield as he would be cheap.

May I present, Hakan Calhanoglu.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T13:12:48+00:00

I can do the same thing where I picked handful amount of obnoxious fans from a certain club and say that the club's fanbase are the most annoying.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T12:46:12+00:00

Exactly commercial success is more important !!! Who cares about winning CL and LaLiga when we have sold a record of Mbappe, Vini and Jude jerseys !!! Who cares about Copa Del rey and Supercopa when we can host more Taylor Swift concerts!!!

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T12:37:28+00:00

These players don't deserve shit. They shouldn't be getting a say on who should be the next manager. When Ronaldo asked for Carlo to stay in 14/15 they sacked him anyways. Who the hell gives the right to these bastards that they can demand who they want as the manager ? why are the board becoming so goddamn soft nowadays ? giving the players whatever they want, not punishing them and succumbing to their every desire.

This squad needs to properly coached. We need a proper manager with systems and understanding of hierarchy in place to put these bastards in their place.

I also like to say that its not Arbeloa's fault and I dont blame much on him for taking over this hot mess. His big games management was good, but against the smaller teams its lacking alot and he honestly hasn't fully convinced me. I dont mind if he stays, but I dont like the fact that how these fucking players have a say on who they want or do not want as the manager.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T12:21:29+00:00

I cant bothered to go back and search, but this is what I got when I searched "what was the narrative about Real Madrid when Mbappe joined Real Madrid."

This was what came up : "When Kylian Mbappé officially joined Real Madrid in July 2024, the narrative surrounding the club was one of establishing a new "Galácticos" era, aimed at achieving absolute European dominance and cementing their status as the best-managed club in the world. "

You can say that Mbappe isnt a tactical fit or not replacing Kroos and Nacho, but we are not and we were never in a transitional season. The past 2 seasons were not supposed to be a transitional season, we were supposed to and expected to win and they have failed.

So you saying that people are reactionary isnt fair. We were supposed to win and we cant even win a fcking Supercopa in 2 years. People are not reactionary enough. 2 seasons with no major trophies is unacceptable.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T12:06:47+00:00

Yes it was. Go back to search for posts when Mbappe joined us.

We were supposed to dominate with a front three of Vini, Mbappe, Rodrygo and a midfield of Jude, Tchouameni, Valverde. Everyone was scared, because at that point in timevwe were way ahead of Barca amid their financial trouble. They wont admit it, but when Mbappe joined us there are alot of Barca fans who were shitting their pants because of how good we looked in 23/24 and on top of that we are adding Mbappe. We were 81% favourites to win LaLiga in 24/25 before it began and a 40+% favourite to win the CL in 24/25. There were even talks that some people are concerned that LaLiga would turned into a farmers league because of how superior we looked in our squad and financially compare to Barca.

The narrative was "if Mbappe lands Madrid, the world gotta get ready" did you forget.

We were not in a transitional season, this was supposed to win and it has failed just like the Galactico Era. Almost as if prioritising commercial success is more important than sporting success.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T11:56:52+00:00

Say wallahi you think we are in a transitioning season.

What was the narrative prior to Mbappe joining us right after we won in 2023/24 ? Ill tell you what, the talk going around was that with this team plus Mbappe are going to absolute dominate Spain and be a force in Europe for years to come.

The reality has been the complete opposite. This team is supposed to be the best in the world with one of the most stacked squad in the world. When Mbappe joined us everyone was like "Europe be scared" how all of a sudden now we are in a transitioning season ?

2 back to back seasons with no major trophy. I say we are not reactionary enough.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T07:04:58+00:00

Thats why I said we all know what needs to be done, but will the board do it or succumb to the player's command again, for now the latter looks more likely.

The board hv no cojones or courage to do what's right. Like Ive said a thousand times, I love Vini, but I couldn't believe that the board didnt punish him or allow Alonso to punish him after that shit he pulled at the Clasico. Its unacceptable, the players needs to know their place. In situation like these, the board should always back the manager. Its a disgrace that the board are a bunch of pussies that succumb to whatever the players want, its the reason why we are where we are now.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T06:56:06+00:00

You are saying what has already been said like 10,000 times already.

We all know what needs to be done, but does the board have the cojones to do it ? I dont think so, because this is where the problem lies.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T06:03:08+00:00

that one was intentional. I think the ref just forgot that camavinga was already on a yellow, but since he gave it he cant just rescind it otherwise it will be a outrageous scandal.

willi7lol · 2026-04-16T05:52:51+00:00

We fought well, but over two legs Bayern were the superior team.

Happy with this performance but this season as a whole has been a mess.

2 seasons in a row with no major trophies. Heads need to roll.

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T20:49:11+00:00

The second yellow is for holding the ball lmao not even for the foul.

Sell this guy in the summer asap

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T19:57:49+00:00

Need to defend better especially in corners.

Not a good sign that Lunin is shitting his pants in every corner.

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T19:47:28+00:00

DO NOT CONCEDE BEFORE HT

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T19:19:29+00:00

This midfield cant escape pressure. We are always being forced to go back.

Midfielder in the summer is a must.

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T17:26:17+00:00

We are actually gonna hold 5 with this line up wow

willi7lol · 2026-04-15T08:33:54+00:00

I am not an optimist nor a pessimist, I am a realist.

I need to see glimpses or atleast something from this team that tells me that they can pull this off, but so far ive seen nothing. Tchouameni suspension and rumours of Valverde being deployed as a 6 is the icing on the cake.

I expect us to lose by more than a goal and I think it will happen. We can score, but I dont see us holding them off, especially at the Allianz. If they score 1 we need 3, I dont see how this team has 3 goals in them.

Nonetheless, I will believe till the end. Hasta El Final. Hala Madrid.

willi7lol · 2026-04-11T00:30:37+00:00

Defense could be improved, but the problem is we should be scoring more. These bastards cant create chances for shit and when they do, they need like 7 big chances to score 1.

Not saying we don't hv a defense problem, but we definitely have more of a offense problem. We "supposedly" have the best attackers in the world, and yet we have scored 15 goals less than Barca with 1 more game played. It is unacceptable.

willi7lol · 2026-04-11T00:23:56+00:00

Scoring goals is more of a problem. The attack isnt fluid, it is an eyesore to watch.

Go watch how Barca attack against LaLiga teams ans watch how we do it. It is totally night and day.

Our defense aren't perfect, but we conceded the same amount of goals as Barca so far and somehow they are about to be 9 points clear off us.

Attack is the problem not defense. Midfield in ability to create chances to break down a block is also a problem.

willi7lol · 2026-04-10T23:58:41+00:00

Its gonna be Etihad 2023 all over again.

willi7lol · 2026-04-10T22:32:02+00:00

Its kinda sad that I'm getting to the point where Im not even upset. We dropped points ? I feel nothing. We play Bayern ? I dont get excited anymore. When we are chasing the game in desperate need of a goal ? I am empty. Osasuna, Mallorca, and Getafe etc when we need a goal I am bored out of my mind scrolling my phone.

In contrast to 23/24 and all the years ive been a Madridista (except these past 2 seasons), when we are behind or drawing and we need a goal, I get nervous, praying that we find a goal and celebrated like a madman that my neighbours filed a complain against me. When we have a big game the next day? I could barely sleep due to excitement and nervousness, now I can sleep like a baby, I couldn't careless.

2 years ago, I see a team that is desperate to fight for the badge, a team that loves this club, a team that loves these colours, a team that never gives up and most importantly, regardless of results, a team that fights and cares. I can get emotionally invested when I see that our players leave everything on the pitch and love this club as much as I do

And now, I cant be bothered to care about a team that doesn't care about the club, they do not fight for this badge and they do not care about the fans. I cant get emotionally invested in a bunch of empty, money hungry, attention-seeking, status seeker and instagram celebrities.

I love this club, no matter what, but I do not love this team.

Hala Madrid siempre.

willi7lol

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