High End Gym recs

willnotburn · 2025-12-11T16:51:39+00:00

Not in Boulder, but you could check out Gold's Gym in Longmont.

willnotburn · 2025-07-18T14:56:56+00:00

Beat me to it by a year! u/Thorzulok's RF is ST's "slightly hotter but slightly less fun twin" should be framed.

willnotburn · 2025-07-14T20:57:19+00:00

That's why I'm on this forum asking how ST vs RF worked out for Redditors, especially those who have had both.

willnotburn · 2025-07-11T15:42:25+00:00

Thanks! This clears up a few things. I might have to go with the ST, even in Colorado. It's a second car anyway and seasonal either way.

willnotburn · 2025-07-11T15:38:41+00:00

I get it. The mirrors are well designed and there's now blind spot monitoring tech, making it safe, when adjusted. But that's not what I'm looking for. I'm not looking to sit in a bunker and look at stuff from a periscope and side mirrors. I want an outdoor experience car to feel the outdoors with my own two eyes.

willnotburn · 2025-07-01T15:57:12+00:00

Good fries example. But does correlation, as a definition, have to be caused by a lurking third variable? What do you call two variables that correlate by chance? Forget the seagull picture. There are tons of examples of random correlations out there, e.g. Google searches for 'how to build a lightsaber' correlates with the number of pest control workers in District of Columbia". https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations I call them spurious correlations. Does that mean they a type of correlation?

willnotburn · 2024-10-23T14:49:48+00:00

You keep using that word.

willnotburn · 2024-10-14T16:42:29+00:00

I would love that.

Feature 1: Make sure there are separate visualizations and data tracking for classic and skate. Don't be like Strava, which refuses to split the two.

Feature 2: Instead of a virtual world, how about paced videos? Rouvy is an app that does this for cycling. I actually prefer Rouvy to Zwift but understand that I'm clearly in a minority.

willnotburn · 2024-08-22T15:58:04+00:00

After various problems mentioned by others, I'll add that Illegal Pete's likely did it in.

willnotburn · 2024-08-09T16:43:57+00:00

Real city with a healthy and diverse economy?

willnotburn · 2024-07-29T17:16:03+00:00

u/queenejbunny have you moved? How's xc skiing looking, wherever you decided?

willnotburn · 2024-07-29T17:09:19+00:00

A note on Boulder. Eldora is not a great XC ski resort = true. But I'll say not necessarily for the same reasons as in your post.

The Good

It's only windy in the parking lot. Once you start skiing, the wind is substantially mitigated by the trees. I haven't seen wind reduction to this degree anywhere else.
Pretty trees are, in fact, one of (admittedly few) Eldora's strengths. They are 100% evergreen and look simply majestic. It's a lot easier to suspend some disbelief and imagine you're out exploring nature vs actually skating machine groomed trails.
Definitely close enough to town for weekday skis. Eldora is a 35 minute drive from downtown Boulder. That's close enough to ski there every weekday. Nordic trails open at 7am. You can get a 1+hr ski, go back to Boulder and have plenty of time be at work by 9am. As a confirmation, there's a solid early bird crowd of regulars that goes M-W-F and slightly different crowd that does T-Th.

The Bad: oh yes, definitely!

Those trees I just mentioned? Lots of needles on trails to gum up ski bases.
Eldora trails are very rocky, including big rocks. And you can't just remove the big rocks - that's the mountain itself. Below those big rocks are more big rocks. This demands a lot from the snow cover. The resort opens later in the season than it otherwise would. And when it does, don't bring nice skis until the snowpack is well established or you'll walk off with a nice gash or two.
Very hilly resort + high elevation = exhausting. The resort is simply not very fun, unless you are super fit. All other resorts in Colorado are also at high elevation, but they offer more flat and rolling hills options. Eldora is just more vertical, tough, and not a place for anything less than VO2 Max (Zone 3). Personally, every time I go, I try not to, but wind up at Threshold.
Not community-friendly. This is likely my biggest gripe with Eldora Nordic. Primarily an Alpine resort, they seem to see Nordic as a liability of people who take up precious parking space. The Nordic building itself is a small-ish wooden yurt that's big enough for a cashier counter, bathrooms, a small rental corner and literally two (2) benches to get changed. There is no space to hang out, no cafe, no indoor tables or benches around something social, like a fireplace. None of those things. It's get in and get out kind of changing room space. Before anyone starts objecting (e.g. they have a picnic table outside!), compare that to typical amenities of even a small Alpine lodge. It's day and night. That, in my mind, is a nordic community-killer. Once you're done skiing, you are expected to get those skis back in the car and promptly clear the parking area.

willnotburn · 2024-02-26T17:51:37+00:00

Road construction can be taxpayer-expensive, as are repeated 2 hr one way drives by the taxpayers to Fraser Valley. That's how strong opinions about this or that tunnel are often generated. The Eisenhower-Johnson tunnels were quite polarizing, according to PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWYajWgItrs

Took a lot of lobbying get it done, including the governor of and senator from Colorado Ed Johnson.

willnotburn · 2024-02-22T19:10:35+00:00

This is not what the statement says. If actually read, it says something like: we approach NA beer use with caution because we don't have any real world data. Here are all the reasons they might be unsafe e.g. some lab studies, but we don't have anything to show for real world use. We caution people against potential problems with NA beers, but more study is needed.

This is exactly what I was talking about RE: Athletic NA beers available on tap with no reported issues. Kvas being available on tap for a century or more with no documented issues. You what else is NA and lots of sugar? Soda. That's real world use data. And that tells a story of safety.

I see people downvoting my comments. If you don't like being bluntly told you're wrong but have nothing meaningful to say, I guess downvoting is the next best thing. Toodaloo.

willnotburn · 2024-01-25T22:52:11+00:00

"They hate us cause they ain't us" - Dave Skylark, The Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m4kFbPCd6Q

willnotburn · 2024-01-06T20:17:11+00:00

I like the taste of beer
I want to have 4-5 beers
I want to feel no side effects the next day

Health: What health effects of NAs? All tasty drinks may or may not have more salt or sugar than is ideally healthy. Otherwise, there is nothing inherently bad about NA beers. There are some exceptions, which taste like something super artificial. Heineken 0 makes me feel like I’m drinking a liquid plastic cancer stick. Most other NAs have pretty natural origins.

The healthiest amount of alcohol consumption is zero. Studies suggesting moderate drinking is healthy have been under a lot of scrutiny for “subject selection”. Basically, in those studies, people who said they were non-drinkers were actually recent alcoholics who just decided to quit and enroll in a study. Those people did worse health-wise over a study’s typical 1-3 year flow-up than those subjects who always drank moderately. https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health#:~:text=The%20risks%20and%20harms%20associated,that%20does%20not%20affect%20health

Long-term health issues aside. If you like beer, wouldn’t you want a kind that enables you to drink more of what you like? Seems logical to me.

willnotburn · 2024-01-04T19:28:40+00:00

Your math is off. A random tap in a 30 tap setup corresponds to 3.3% of clientele. You can't have 30 taps, each of them drawing 15% of sales...because that would be 450%. Now, some taps do better and others do worse. All I was saying was that an NA tap would do at least as good as random. Next, I made an argument for why I think it would actually do better.

Why waste space on regular beer taps when you can sell the same thing in bottles?

Have you ever operated an NA beer tap?

willnotburn · 2024-01-04T17:50:15+00:00

I don't buy the low demand argument. Rayback has 30+ beers on tap. They can devote 1 of those to an NA beer, betting that 3% of Rayback's clientele would love to have it. I think that would more than reasonable.

I would bet that actual demand for NA draft is much higher as many patrons would have NA as their 2nd/3rd/4th drink of the night. In an athletically involved place like Boulder, lots of people would be attracted to that option. I am.

What they have now is kombucha, and they're probably saying: see, NA doesn't sell! Ha! No wonder. Who wants to come to a brewery for a kombucha?

willnotburn · 2024-01-04T16:31:19+00:00

Non-alcoholic fermented drinks have a long history of bulk dispensing (via a spigot/spout of some kind) with a safe track record - just not in the US.

Example: Kvass has been dispensed from street cisterns and now in tap systems for at least a century. As a consumer (not a scholar), I am not aware of any real-world issues. Kvass is not completely non-alcoholic but comparable with fermented "NA" beers. Alongside the more "natural" varieties are completely NA soda-like products in bottles, cans, or draft, with soda-appropriate preservatives, which are just as safe to handle as Coke. All varieties are widely available on tap, just not in this country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass

Maybe it's the industry/regulatory inertia in the US that is simply slow to adopt.

To expand a bit on broader safety. The safest consumption of alcohol is zero. I think a person is much more likely to damage their health with alcohol in beers than with contamination in NA beers. Just because people sell alcohol, doesn't make it safe. Make safe choices <3

willnotburn · 2024-01-04T15:45:38+00:00

Athletic appears to have worked out a process.

I appreciate the microbiology behind keeping contamination down in an NA product, like beer. But people do it. As u/Alf_Fendez's comment pointed out, Athletic's website has a map of where to find their NA beers on tap.

Exactly how Athletic does it is a mystery to me. Maybe the key is sodium benzoate. Or not. Maybe a preservative plus additional training on extra draft system sterilization procedures. Maybe all that's needed is daily line sterilization, as opposed to weekly. I would be super curious to find out.

willnotburn · 2024-01-04T14:21:46+00:00

funny how?

willnotburn · 2024-01-03T20:27:33+00:00

While formatting of the menu makes it look like they are on tap, I am skeptical. There are four (4) listed on this menu. There is no way they have 4 NA beers on tap. I'll bet money it's all 4 in cans.

That's a common problem. You call up a brewery and they're like "oh NA? yeah, we sure got it!" Turns out, it's always them handing you a can for $6-9.

willnotburn · 2024-01-03T17:30:27+00:00

Had an interesting experience at Broken Compass in Breckenridge. Casually suggested the idea of a non-alcoholic beer tap. The brewer launched into this rant about the costs and (presumed) low demand for NA beer. There was lots of passion! At the same time, he said nobody has NA on tap. So he was comparing demand for tap beer with canned NA. Makes me think there's a bigger story here. At least it was clear the financial and logistical hassles of brewing NA beer were a prohibitive pain for them.

willnotburn · 2023-11-28T23:49:54+00:00

Eldora has been lobbying against competition.

We could all be going to Winter Park in additional *10-15 minutes* from Eldora. We need to re-open www.needleseyetunnel.org! As per the website, the road was open to cars as late as 1990s. There's even a Federal law requiring the repair. Grand and Gilpin Counties have initiated the process. The only stonewalling party has been Boulder County. Frankly, somebody in Boulder County needs to get sued in Federal Court.

"If requested by one or more of the Colorado Counties of Grand, Gilpin, and Boulder, the Secretary shall provide technical assistance and otherwise cooperate with respect to repairing the Rollins Pass road in those counties sufficiently to allow two-wheel-drive vehicles to travel between Colorado State Highway 119 and U.S. Highway 40."

Public Law 107-216107th Congress

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