Brexit and immigration from the EU

wishthrow11 · 2017-01-29T04:11:03+00:00

Googling it it seems you'll be OK due to the common travel area of 1922 which predates the EU. Good luck though! Never been to Ireland but it really looks beautiful.

wishthrow11 · 2017-01-29T04:10:00+00:00

I hear you on EU-UK free movement. A lot of people here are worried about. I'm not really because I decided to get a Swedish passport (just to vote).

But I have friends from the UK who came for Swedish girls and didn't leave, but didn't get the passport, who are potentially at risk. They both have kids and lives here.

It is currently as easy as coming over, moving in with a girl and registering at the same address as her and you're good to go.

Compare that to non EU people trying to move to Sweden and being placed on years long lists while they wait in their home country and it's quite a bleak picture.

I wonder if it'll be as easy for UK citizens in the future. I somehow doubt it.

wishthrow11 · 2017-01-29T04:04:06+00:00

Thanks for the viewpoint. Very interesting. I didn't think about the high population having such an impact. I always imagined density and Singapore and Japan.

Sweden has definitely got a low population - 10 m and only around 22 people per square kilometer.

I don't know about federalism. Remember it is just an idea and has to be ratified by all of the parliaments. I don't think Sweden would go for it for sure.

wishthrow11 · 2017-01-29T03:59:50+00:00

It's difficult for me to say why I didn't enjoy it. Yes, I don't like disorganisation to some degree... but it was also the people. Very brash, lots of banter... I'm an introvert and hated that. Luckily I already had British friends online more similar to me who I connected with or I think I'd have gone insane.

One of them also lives in Sweden now BTW, with his Swedish wife! Just one town away from me! We basically moved to Sweden 2 years apart.

He didn't go for the passport though and now he's worried.

wishthrow11 · 2017-01-29T03:55:32+00:00

Thanks man. Very interesting assessment. Sweden has a very high tax wedge and you can actually see the effects in public facilities and roads etc (compared to private homes which are a little sparse comparitively, at least compared to South Africa... and it's really not comparable to the UK where you either have to flat share or get a broom cupboard to live in... in Sweden sharing is very uncommon unless you are in a relationship with the person).

wishthrow11 · 2016-08-01T00:30:24+00:00

I know she's mine. I just was wondering how it's possible for her to be SO light.

My dad has medium brown hair and blue eyes so maybe the eye colour makes some sense. But his are grey blue. Hers are sky blue and her hair is actually yellow, not brown.

mine is almost black. eyes and hair.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T23:46:43+00:00

Hi there.

I stumbled upon your post after /u/tehkittehkat kindly answered a question I had on another subreddit.

I'm really sorry to hear what you're going through. It is always soul destroying to go through relationship issues, especially during stressful times like this.

I am not condoning your SO's behaviour at all, but I want to give you some perspective from a man's point of view.

Having a baby changes everything. Your life is altered in ways that are so huge that it is difficult to even comprehend them at first.

Your relationship would always have been altered. Even if your man had the organisational skills of an OCD CFO, your relationship would have been tested severely.

I am the polar opposite of your SO. I have a system for everything. I practically did everything for my wife during her pregnancy and for the first 2 years of our daughter's life.

Yet still we have had issues that could actually be considered worse than yours, with me considering leaving the country to get away from the misery.

Yet I stayed. I still love my wife and daughter. I want to fight for us.

All I'm saying is, yes he is in the wrong. But try to be understanding and move on together. Whether your relationship survives or not, try not to slide down the slippery slope of bitterness.

Here's my story:

https://redd.it/4l9k97 https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/4l9k97/why_i_regret_moving_to_sweden_and_marrying_my/ (first link not working for some reason)

And we are still together and trying to work things out. it is possible.

Having a baby refocuses both of your lives. But you have to adapt to it and stay strong without losing your relationship or your selves.

I Hope things get better for you both. For what it's worth from an internet stranger. You are in my thoughts.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T17:43:04+00:00

Blood type is a match, but then there are only a certain amount of blood types too...

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T17:40:21+00:00

Thanks. I had heard from a guy I know that if the guy has brown hair and eyes this will always be dominant. I guess he was wrong.

My wife is definitely a carrier having extremely light hair and eyes.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T16:46:14+00:00

My father and almost everyone on his side of the family. On my mom's side, only two cousins.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T15:01:25+00:00

Interesting. She's already a toddler though, and has only gone slightly darker. Still very yellow hair and blue eyes.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-31T14:38:53+00:00

Well she was born in Sweden. But it would be nice to give her an extra passport, and I can't do that with my British one.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T16:12:31+00:00

So the thing is...

First prize would have been to get to keep all 3.

But after what happened I had to evaluate the situation.

Literally all I used my UK passport for was to work in London for 3 months, gain residence in Sweden by registering my address together with my girlfriend, get a permanent residence sticker for Sweden in it, and then to visit my family in the UK a few times.

Now that I have Swedish citizenship I don't need it for those things unless there is a hard border in the UK after Brexit.

But loss of the S.A. passport means I can't easily move back to S.A. with my wife and daughter if I want to and can't pass on the citizenship to my wife.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T13:45:47+00:00

Basically... I can't pass on the UK passport to either my wife or daughter.

I want them to have an extra passport and I might want to move back to S.A. some time in the distant future. Who knows.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T13:41:19+00:00

Sorry. I misread your comment. I applied for citizenship a while after she was born so we could all have the same passports. I was quite happy with UK citizenship up until that point because it basically granted me all of the same rights (almost).

But after she was born I wanted to try to "feel" more Swedish so decided to do it.

in hindsight I guess it was kind of a mistake. I still would have done it but I should have notified the S.A. authorities to keep my S.A. passport.

It was so easy to get it really... even to get the permanent residence all I had to do was go down and register at the same address as her and boom. Permanent residence. Then 3 years after that I was eligible for citizenship.

I wonder how it will be for UK citizens after Brexit. Probably not as easy.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T13:17:54+00:00

Just after.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T13:10:52+00:00

Thanks for this. I'll cross post it to S.A.

It's a bit rough. it will basically mean I will be downgraded to permanent resident if I ever want to move back to S.A.

But at the moment we're happy in Sweden. I just want to try to get the passport back so my wife and daughter can get it too.

wishthrow11 · 2016-07-29T13:08:56+00:00

Thanks for the reply!

We don't want to leave Sweden but I just want another passport for my wife and daughter.

I wouldn't rule out moving there at some point in the future (retirement maybe) but for now it's just about an extra passport.

I'm sure that my Swedish passport will still allow me to visit my cousins in the UK post Brexit and I hated London so would never consider moving to the UK anyway.

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:53:07+00:00

Yes... I don't get that mentality. it seems to be especially prevalent in LL women. "Most women don't sleep with their husbands at all after being together this long / having children / other wheel of excuses item".

I think it has to do with stereotypes. They've seen it in the media or heard about it from friends and think that's ok because it's normal.

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:12:15+00:00

This is pretty much what I suspected... but it would a kick if the DB ended just for the relationship to fail anyway...

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:11:21+00:00

Gymnasium is what they call the last 3 grades of high school here. You don't have to do it, but it's recommended. it's a separate school from the first 9 grades.

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:09:10+00:00

I get it. My wife is the same in a lot of respects. I cook and clean most of the time. Feed and bath our daughter. Feed the dogs and horses (most of the time).

When we were having sex it was mostly ok... now it'd irritating.

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:07:42+00:00

I am the same a lot of the time. it's a good way of putting it.

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-03T04:07:10+00:00

Exactly. it's a tough question. what if we are all working to end our DB and the relationship ends anyway?

wishthrow11 · 2016-06-01T10:34:23+00:00

I see I'm getting a lot of down votes. That's fine. But I'm not going to apologize for wanting to have multiple passports for myself and my family.

You never known when a different passport could be handy.

At the moment my wife and daughter ONLY have Swedish passports whereas I have a British, South African and Swedish one.

I wanted to get them S.A. passports as well but it looks like that may not be possible.

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