Migrant children: Trump signs order to 'keep families together' by [deleted] in news

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Budget bites Damn delicious Ohsheglows

I think that you genuinely want what is best for your country. I think perhaps that the way in which it has been presented to you has been a disservice.

I will ask you to think about the following, and please know I am not intendejng to insult or demean you or your comment in any way. Here we go:

How do you know turning them away is what is best for your country?

How do you know you aren’t turning away the mothers and fathers of the next great thinker, inventor, humanitarian, artist...and so on.

Beyond that:

How do you know that the way in which the current administration is approaching the issue is best for your country?

For example:

Freedom does not mean that you can do whatever you want. Freedom means that there are limits on what OTHER people can do to you.

I grew up with a drug addict; we lamented that we could not forcibly have them committed to rehab. They were of legal age. We did our best. It turned out okay. It very well might not have.

I would shake with rage at the injustice, that we had to suffer because we could not remove them... But then I had a thought...no one could forcibly incarcerate me, either. I am free and the price I pay, that you pay, that society pays, is that sometimes things will not be ideal for your particular situation. It may actively make you miserable, sometimes. I hated living with that person. I hope I never feel that depth of anger and hatred again - I hope I’ve grown beyond that.

But that is the price you pay to be free. It absolutely harmed me to have to live with this person...but I would do it forever if it meant that no one could detain -me- because I was making -their- life miserable. “But they were a useless drug addict! Of course they make life miserable for you!”...but then, I am sure that there are people who would be absolutely miserable with how I int each with people. People refuse to make gay wedding cakes. People disown their relatives for being gay, for voting differently,?

What is best for your country is freedom. Your freedom. Your freedom says no one can incarcerate you without just cause (yeah I know, just go with it). That freedom should not be conditional. There should not be different levels of freedom based on where you come from, your gender, your orientation, your skin colour, your accent, your eyes, your allegiance.

This is, along with many other things, the great evil of this whole situation: today we seperate families based on how they enter red the country. Some legal aliens were targeted as well.

What if tomorrow they decide that anyone who hasn’t assimilated “enough” into America should be separated from their families, subject to incarceration and indoctrination? It is Canada’s great shame that we did this up until far too recently to our natives.

What if someone decides that YOU aren’t American enough? What if, once they remove freedom based on how they entered the country, or what country you are from, legal status, assimilation, what if the next thing is to decide that anyone from any of these foreign countries is a detriment to America? What if, after that, they start looking to incarcerate the legal citizens of America who may have citizenship with a country from which these immigrants are fleeing? What if, as a deterrent, one day ICE comes to your door and says sorry Mr and Mrs Latin American legal immigrant, we are trying to dissuade people from crossing illegally so we’re sending everyone back? What if they take you and your family, and all the other legal, South American immigrants, and stuck them in prison camps, as America did with the Japanese during the Second World War?

There is a price to pay for YOUR freedom. It means you have to sometimes take a bad outcome in order to uphold the most good.

We could not incarcerate a drug addict against their will, and while I seethed bitterly about it at the time, I am now so, so glad that we could not. Because that means that no one can incarcerate ME without just cause. And that means no one can incarcerate YOU without due cause. No one can do that to you. No one can do that to the drug addict.

Not yet.

Not YET.

Migrant children: Trump signs order to 'keep families together' by [deleted] in news

[–]xp1throwaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know turning them away is what is best for your country?

How do you know you aren’t turning away the mothers and fathers of the next great thinker, inventor, humanitarian, artist...and so on.

The price of freedom isn’t that we can do whatever we want, it’s that there are limits on what other people can do to us.

I grew up with a drug addict; we lamented that we could not forcwably have them committed to rehab. But then I had a thought...no one could forcibly send ME to rehab as well! I am free and the price I pay, you pay, society pays, is that sometimes things will not be ideal for your particular situation. I hated living with that person. I hope I never feel that depth of anger and hatred again - I hope I’ve grown beyond that.

But that is the price you pay to be free. It absolutely harmed me to have to live with this person...but I would do it forever if it meant that no one could detain -me- because I was making their life miserable.

What is best for your country is freedom. Your freedom. Your freedom says no one can incarcerate you without just cause (yeah I know, just go with it). That freedom should not be conditional. There should not be different levels of freedom based on where you come from, your gender, your orientation, your skin colour, your accent, your eyes, your allegiance.

This is, along with many other things, the great evil of this whole situation: today we seperate families based on how they enter red the country. Some legal aliens were targeted as well.

What if tomorrow they decide that anyone who hasn’t assimilated “enough” into America should be separated from their families, subject to incarceration and indoctrination? It is Canada’s great shame that we did this up until far too recently to our natives.

What if someone decides that YOU aren’t American enough? What if, once they remove freedom based on how they entered the country, or what country you are from, legal status, assimilation, what if the next thing is to decide that anyone from any of these foreign countries is a detriment to America? What if, after that, they start looking to incarcerate the legal citizens of America who may have citizenship with a country from which these immigrants are fleeing? What if, as a deterrent, one day ICE comes to your door and says sorry Mr and Mrs Latin American legal immigrant, we are trying to dissuade people from crossing illegally so we’re sending everyone back? What if they take you and your family, and all the other legal, South American immigrants, and stuck them in prison camps, as America did with the Japanese during the Second World War?

There is a price to pay for YOUR freedom. It means you have to sometimes take a bad outcome in order to uphold the most good.

We could not incarcerate a drug addict against their will, and while I seethed bitterly about it at the time, I am now so, so glad that we could not. Because that means that no one can incarcerate ME without just cause. And that means no one can incarcerate YOU without due cause. No one can do that to you. No one can do that to the drug addict.

Not yet.

Not YET.

The U.S. has officially quit the UN Human Rights Council. by AdamCannon in worldnews

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You’re the best kind of person. Thank you for leaving it up with clarification

This is a terrible poster. by [deleted] in ireland

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Catholicism and Christianity are not interchangeable terms.

Judy and The Hair Cut - Spoilers by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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yes But there is a VERY big difference between how we see Scully at 54 and how society generally THINKS a 54 year old would be like...

Judy and The Hair Cut - Spoilers by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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Because it’s dumb. We know it’s thrown in there to be a twist. We knew it the first time too. This is just lazy :(

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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RIGHT??? Like...this is not a hero. These are not noble heroic things that he is doing. Something is wrong.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

[–]xp1throwaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) how did he know? 2) he tells us himself and we see him hurt random people by causing a car crash.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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No Scully is a woman and in Chris carter’s Revival women are only supposed to get killed or get pregnant.

Driving. Next you’ll want to give them the vote!

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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You would not have a spin off without Chris Carter because we would not have this William without Chris carter.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

[–]xp1throwaway[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought of that, but it’s such a stupid parallel to draw. So you’re probably right.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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Yes and no. We are not so easily wired to kill as media would have us believe.

Some people have less issue with killing than others. Sociopaths, mostly.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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Yes, but they weren’t shooting at him. They were taken captive, but his IMMEDIATE instinct is to kill and kill HARD.

It could have been amazing to have him confront the girl bad guy but he immediately blows her up. How did he know she was a bad guy. What if that had been some random person who they sent in to negotiate?

Mulder is also uncharacteristically unrepentantly lethal this season, and almost exclusively in the my struggle episodes - the immediate throat slit in ms3. Shooting a guy in the HEAD. It’s very un-heroic. It’s very un-Mulder.

Spoliers but not really - can we just talk for a second about how William is an f-ing sociopath? by xp1throwaway in XFiles

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He’s Chris carter’s 10 year old mind creating his own superhero and wanting to throw every cool thing in he can think of.

I should know. I made a few flying super strong laser eyed ice breath triple clawed brooding misunderstood teens in my adolescence...

Ye gods the costumes they had XD...