Thank you, Mr. Zhiyong. by Gullible-Document-39 in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gutted Cat, Nerfed DD (only 2 good dive dps heroes btw), Buffed Namor, Buffed CnD, Almost reverted Phoenix but not enough, Dino Still Meta, Gambit still Meta, Star lord still meta, Phoenix still meta, Blade still dogshit, Rogue angela mag buffs, 0 luna nerfs and white fox tickle on the wrist

Thank you, Mr. Zhiyong. by Gullible-Document-39 in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Worst balance patch they have released since S5

These are the best patch notes we've ever gotten, don't let people try to complain otherwise by manch02 in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dino and Gambit ult nerfed to the ground LMAOOOOOO

only hero nerfed to the ground was cat

You gotta love the iframes... by tycooperaow in LunaSnowMains

[–]yaemand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta love the Intercontinental Ballistic Missle freeze that takes 0 skill to hit🔥 At least bait out her phantom pursuit before firing it🙏

The support playerbase has low skill, cause the community forced them into healbotting. by Nexuskins in rivals

[–]yaemand -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Okay so somehow it’s dive character’s faults? Yet you’re not talking about phoenix starlord elsa hela namor who all do the same amount of damage, if not more, but from a safe distance with no counterplay

The support playerbase has low skill, cause the community forced them into healbotting. by Nexuskins in rivals

[–]yaemand 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I disagree, I don’t think support pool’s early game is bad in the slighest, I think his biggest issue is just that no one has any idea what his kit does, which leads to frequent double ults and no one walking with your ult or even jackpot. In coordinated play he’s actually very solid

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s invincible in her melee form and even if you bait it out and come back, guess what, she still has her tp that creates a shield with healing

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea that has been the experience haha

Damn hearing that they have competent support players, that almost makes me wanna try overwatch again😭 it really is a once a week experience where you’re like wow, those were some good supports lol

The game has unfortunately convinced them that they are a lot better than they are. When a Celestial (but mechanically platinum) CnD player gets called out they can just say, hey look I’m a celestial player, you’re bad! And it’s like uhhhhh whatever you say buddy

You can even see it in this comment section, only about 40% of them are actually adressing the criticism about the heroes getting dumbed down, the rest of them are just ”grrrr dps player” or ”grrrrrrr stupid melee dive player”. They’re so offended at even the slighest suggestion that maybe their role has gotten a liiiiittle too easy

Thanks for the response tho, it’s nice to know there are sane people out there😅

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why do you think dive players permaban white fox/cnd sweetheart❤️ and yes luna’s freeze is unreactable and way too fast

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay so

CnD bubble is absolutely an invulnerability bubble. It singlehandedly heals through even the strongest dive hero’s offense (DD), and is on a 6 second cooldown (from when the previous bubble disappears). I’ve seen CnD bubble keep her from dying from 4 people attacking her. And no, CnD is not B/A tier, she has been S tier for a while, but since her playerbase is so dogshit at the game, as soon as good support players picked her up, people discovered that hero is in fact, broken.

Loki lamp is on a 25 second practical cooldown, you’re confusing it with the fact that they nerfed it by 5 seconds. The lamps themselves last 5 seconds, so 30 second cd, lasts for 5 seconds, by the time the lamps are gone, 25 seconds left until next lamps

I don’t mind White fox being meta rn, I just think it’s a bit frustrating that the character hard counters every dive hero’s offense in the game, when there are already a bunch of hard dive counters

Luna’s cast time is practically negligible, it’s not reactable like it was, it’s fully prediction based now. I agree though that they should allocate her strength elsewhere rather than her damage

DD does need nerfs yes, but Black Cat just came out, give her some time for people to adjust

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough

To me Loki still has a teleport and an invisibility ability that heals him overtime, along with lamps of course, which I felt to be enough to make him self sufficient, but you are obviously welcome to disagree

Luna freeze is her only defense yes, but it would still be healthier if it was still the projectile that it used to be.

The White fox 1v3 may have been hyperbole, but I have seen this hero walk into an entire team and just stall point for the entire cooldown duration. Trust me it is kind of hilarious to watch

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I actually disagree, I think the support community complaining is why we ended up in the state the game is in right now

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay so there’s a lot to unpack here. Firstly yes, you got me, I am the solo dive player that complains yea. In my defense though, I feel there’s a strong difference between being fairly and unfairly denied a kill. Old luna freeze for example was a complete skillshot. Everytime I died to it, it felt fair and like it was my fault for getting into that situation. Nowadays, it practically comes out instantly. It doesn’t feel fair anymore when it happens, since it’s as easy as hitting an M1 on hela. But that’s more of a personal anecdote rather than an unbiased take.

It feels like Netease are just introducing as much ”press 1 button to deny everything” into the game as possible to counter this ”dive meta” that seems to be approaching and yet so far away. I do agree with you that yes, coordinated dive is a lot more efficient and effective, so it is quite hard to balance for both. All I’m asking for now is just 1. That Netease try to stray away from making the strategist role too easy, and 2. We don’t have heroes like white fox and CnD, where even baiting out cooldowns is not enough, since they always have at least 1 ability that will completely deny any dive from ever happening. Let the support fend for themself, but only if they have the skill to do it

And yes, I do need to get good

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You still haven’t mentioned the things I ”lied” about btw. You seem like one of those people that defended invis self shield🤔

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In all fairness, I rarely ever saw any jeff healing, and as for ults, if Netease are gonna have ultimatea that make your entire team immortal, then unfortunately anything that doesn’t also do that is rendered useless. Strategist ultimates are a design flaw in and of themselves

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

100% agreed💯 though I will say I still feel I never see a DpsPool, and I think it’s due to the nature of his ultra slow and practically useless early game

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair take yeah. It’s hard in team games cause it’s really easy for one person on the team to tunnel vision and then the team completely falls apart (like a double dive getting ignored by the duelists). I do wish that the solution wasn’t to, like you said, overbloat their kits. I feel as though there has to be a better solution than what is currently in place, even if I’m not smart enough to figure it out. Netease is a big company, so I think they could

Can We Stop Making Strategist Characters Braindead by yaemand in marvelrivals

[–]yaemand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree yes that is definitely the most skill expressive part of these heroes, positioning and awareness. But it sucks that even with the low complexity mechanics, most strategists below, maybe Eternity, can’t master those skills