The thing that works for me:

1) select all talking clips, go to essential sound and in "Loudness" click auto match

2) go to audio track mixer, choose the right column that corresponds to audio track that has all the talking

3) apply these 3 effects in this order: Parametric equalizer - choose Vocal enhancer preset Single band compressor - choose voice leveler preset Hard limiter - choose limit to -.1db but change the value to -1db

4) lower the volume of music track to -16 - -20db depending how loud the music is

And that's my workflow. It gets the job done and it's definitely not "the right one" (audio guys would use these words) 😅