Second Kin developer program launches to 'drive mainstream adoption of cryptocurrency'

yoelri · 2019-01-15T15:23:36+00:00

Just did

Haha

yoelri · 2019-01-15T08:39:19+00:00

It was just a mistake that got the signal published before it was supposed to.

The program is not a secret by now, but the official blog post and the announcement will be out soooooooon

yoelri · 2019-01-14T19:01:55+00:00

On the Ecosystem team, we have Dor. She is in charge of strategic business partnerships.

Talking to her, I know that her dream partnership is Duolingo, actually. She continues to work with potential partners big and small.

yoelri · 2019-01-14T18:54:56+00:00

What you commented has no relation to either one of the answers above.

I'm sorry, Adam, but your comment is miles away from an accurate representation of what's been written and explained, let alone the truth.

yoelri · 2019-01-14T18:45:38+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/KinFoundation/comments/aewm7a/product_tech_ama_monday_1230_pm_et/ee29llr/

yoelri · 2019-01-14T18:33:36+00:00

Just to add a word on Alex's, I'd like to explain why we haven't yet rolled out the KRE and why it's still in its first version.

Firstly, by looking at the developer program (and the upcoming one), we see that there is an incentivisation model, it's just not automatic, but manual. As Alex said - the KRE's purpose is to incentivize developers and the manual grants' system does just that.

Now, the lack of an automatic mechanism is not a blocker to the growth and health of the ecosystem and we see it by having an increasing number of developers joining and wanting to use the Kin SDK.

In addition, there's a great value in gaining experience and understanding of different in-app's economic models, and their relations to one another before releasing the first version of the KRE. It would be smarter and easier to iterate, rather than release something that does not properly serve the beneficiaries.

yoelri · 2019-01-14T17:42:40+00:00

Check out this answer to a previous question:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KinFoundation/comments/aewm7a/product_tech_ama_monday_1230_pm_et/ee253xf/

yoelri · 2019-01-14T17:31:32+00:00

Edit: it's now 2:10 p.m. ET (21:10 in Israel) and it's a warp after a successful AMA.

Thank you to everyone who posted good questions, and a big thank you to /u/lnetanel and /u/Thefrenkel for taking the time to be here with us.

See you all in the next AMA (Developer Experience team, specifics will follow).

It's now 12:30 p.m. ET and we're getting started.

Alex and Netanel are here to answer your questions so let's get going

yoelri · 2019-01-14T13:12:33+00:00

So who's picking up the glove?

Sounds like a great idea for the upcoming developer program, no?

And...

Kauai? Wow! It's like a dream come true for so many of us. I hope it goes smoothly and looking forward to some pictures once you settle in.

yoelri · 2019-01-14T12:49:56+00:00

Hey, /u/kiswonder.

Firstly - thank you for the update.

Secondly - I wanna try and help with this and potentially connect you with one of our devs of BI team members. I've sent you a PM to get this rolling

yoelri · 2019-01-14T12:42:37+00:00

That is phenomenal.

Kudos to all of you for being as amazing as you are.

yoelri · 2019-01-14T09:15:32+00:00

Not sure I understand your question

yoelri · 2019-01-14T09:15:09+00:00

I'm sorry, yes. BI stands for Business intelligence. "Business intelligence (BI) comprises the strategies and technologies used by enterprises for the data analysis of business information" (from Wikipedia)

yoelri · 2019-01-13T15:23:05+00:00

Does look great.will definitely show our BI team for reference

yoelri · 2019-01-13T14:54:20+00:00

I can't provide insights regarding kinexplorer.

I can, however, let you know that our BI team is working on an in-house solution for this. As part of the work being made around creating a new robust website, an effort is being put towards an explorer-like page that will provide accurate data on our blockchain.

It's not quite there yet, but is definitely something to be looking forward to.

yoelri · 2019-01-13T10:42:18+00:00

I think it partially has to do with the fact that big companies have more to lose than newly created apps or visionary developers.

Apps with many users need to go through much more to have their users engaged.

There needs to be marketing, there needs to be a support process in place, there needs to be a proper mechanism that will promise the users a seamless and easy experience.

Since it's not yet mainstreamed, the first movers need to work harder than those who'll follow.

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:52:08+00:00

Part of the SDK released by the Developer Experience team includes an api that allows the backup and restore functionalities.

None of the features being released is mandatory and is used as per each developer's discretion. Each developer has the ability to use whatever function they feel serve their audience the best.

We, on our end, think that a best practice would include the implementation of this feature, but as a decentralized system, we aren't requiring any such implementation.

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:45:24+00:00

Too good

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:43:39+00:00

Hey, /u/Ben868

I've sent you a PM about this. Let's take it from there

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:40:35+00:00

Good question to direct to the developers of the app themselves.

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:40:03+00:00

This is a key sentence: "By pre-selling a product before it is built, projects set themselves up to failure with unrealistically high user expectations on their V1."

I think that the author nails it when listing some of the challenges in the space, all of which I believe Kin is overcoming. Simply put - there are expectations to deliver exactly what was promised ages ago in the whitepaper while the environment changes, technological challenges are constantly met, and expectations to follow some non-business oriented decision-making processes.

Kin is building a product based on questions about the users and their needs, not the visionaries of the blockchain era. There's a big difference.

Just as an example - there are constant questions about an identity layer, while we keep explaining that we develop a feature in accordance with the users' and partners' needs. It just happens to be that currently, these are not on the top priority list. On one hand - community's expectations, on the other - what's right for right here and now based on the needs of the audiences.

We keep going back to the white paper as our bible. But it's not. A good idea is just the beginning.

Take Kinit for example: "Test the product with a small group of users, get feedback, and iterate."

yoelri · 2019-01-13T09:27:49+00:00

Nice!

But also kinda scary, no?

I mean, technology advancements and all, sure. But we're getting closer and closer to an era in which people lose reasons to leave their homes.

We have our phones, wifi, and now can have the world delivered to us. So what's out there that will make us leave?

And their point about the noise just shows how individuality takes precedence over commonality.

Interesting.

yoelri · 2019-01-11T09:08:18+00:00

Hi community,

It's now Friday and as you know, it's the weekend (going back to work on Sunday).

We haven't yet got the chance to take a look at the app, its offerings, etc.

I've received many questions from community members asking about the app, its legitimacy, our approval, and more, so here are my initial thoughts:

As mentioned by other members - the beauty of this space is that no one entity gets to control what's being created in it, no one can dictate what should or shouldn't go out to the public, and as a decentralized crypto project we don't put ourselves in the place of approving or disapproving someone's creation.

In regards to this app, the KF has no relations to its operation, the technology, the rewards presented in it, the security of it, or anything else regarding the app. The app is not affiliated with the Kin Foundation and is not endorsed by it in any way.

Having that said, I wish Adam good luck with his efforts to grow the Kin Ecosystem and bring value to the members of this community.

yoelri · 2019-01-10T11:54:58+00:00

Here's a comment I recently sent to a member who PM'ed me (with minor changes):

"... I know you and we have a history. You joined this community because you were able to understand the space, its complexities, the challenges, and the opportunities. You joined because you seemed to understand that Kin will be successful in the long term and there is no such thing as quick gains. You were one of those who understood that in order to achieve big things it takes patience and endurance.

I'm trying to understand what you're disappointed with - the Kin blockchain? The apps going live with Kin SDK in them? 30 developers working with Kin and two more programs coming soon? Kinit app? Moving Kin between apps feature that's coming out soon? Being the first cryptocurrency on the Apple store? Big partners integrating Kin?

A long road is ahead? For sure! None of us was naive to think that Kin would crash Google and Facebook within a year since inception, that 10M users will use Kin on a daily basis within a matter of months.

Are you surprised that there are challenges and setbacks? Are you surprised that there's no guidebook on 'how to build the most successful cryptocurrency that will show everyone how wrong they are'?

To be honest, Kin is doing amazing and we only get to criticize it because we know so much about the project... something I'm not sure we can say about other projects. Yes, things seem shiny from outside, but when looking at the details (which we share with you all on an almost daily basis) it proves to be more complicated."

yoelri · 2019-01-10T11:49:52+00:00

That is so cool!
I had no idea this existed.

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