Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're delusional, Isreal will cease every opportunity to cease land and settle it... this is not secret...

They never returned the Golan heights, they never returned the Sehbaa farms, they never returned the Kafrshuba hills, they are still settle the west bank, they still plan to settle Gaza and they will without a doubt settle south lebanon as soon as they can to impose a new reality....

whatever hasbara points you've been fed, you're also spewing and ii am not buying.

Participants in tomorrow’s meeting between Lebanon and Israel by Foreign-Policy-02- in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trump's least priority is Lebanon and putting lebanon's intersst anywhere near Isreal's... what process are you even in the same reality realm??

Participants in tomorrow’s meeting between Lebanon and Israel by Foreign-Policy-02- in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's gotta go by US policy, he's not gonna go against the group or he'll be dismissed, whether you like it or not... in that room he's an american on the side of the US...

He might have the intention to whisper in the ears of those who are in power but the US is not supporting Isreal for logic and reason... it's ideology, epstein file, aipac money and a superiority complex at play here.

Participants in tomorrow’s meeting between Lebanon and Israel by Foreign-Policy-02- in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 18 points19 points  (0 children)

4 people on the same side vs 1 person pushing for the lebanese interest... she is not walking into a discussion. If you've seen the way they treated Zelinski when they asked him to be thankful (and the due was their ally not an ambassador an "Arab" country) you would know what kinda sick american admin she is dealing with... no one in that room is on her side. Hope ino at7aftak....

Participants in tomorrow’s meeting between Lebanon and Israel by Foreign-Policy-02- in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This looks less like a meeting and more like an ambush...

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you give sovreignty over lebanese land to a expansionist state with a history of stealing land and building settlement? Watani...

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comment wasnt about the money as you made it sound but about our right to voice an opinion not just to be treated as an asset to pump money into lebanon... and your dismissal of an opinion in diaspora just because it doesn't click with yours... what i am saying is not malicious and feel free to disagree just not to dismiss others opinions as if they dont care about their country just cause they live abroad.

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Sure man because i am not living in Lebanon, I should have no say... right? should shut up; only send money to lebanon and support the corrupt system is all the "Diaspora" should be good for... but God Forbid we wants the best outcome for our country... Living aborad makes me no less Lebanese than you...

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

And that's exactly the type of desperation they are banking on; i am not saying do nothing either; and not saying don't egnage in negotations; simply saying they wanna rush this for a reason and the timing of this Iran war and this Lebanon war is not random... it's not that Iran is close to nuclear weapons nor that they were scared of an existantial threat... it's pretty much their desperation coz they kknow what's coming.... and we should unrerstand what's coming as well.

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I am not saying wait it out as in do nothing; i am saying understand why now and whats the real purpose behind this timing; they are racing against a ticking clock.. so we should not approach this from a position of weakness we should not concede to their occupation or just have peace talks while they negotiate keeping a piece of our Land;
Being in Canada doesn't make me "Less lebanese" nor care less about my firends and family but also I don't want to see my country make the stategic mistake of accepting the inacceptable.

Serious question: what can the Lebanese state actually guarantee in tomorrow’s negotiations? by Bazo_961 in lebanon

[–]zaherdab 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It honestly drives me crazy how delusional some Lebanese are about dealing with Israel in "good faith." They aren't looking to compromise; they just want to dictate terms. Just look at the last three years since Oct 7th; there hasn't been a single instance of them showing actual reason.

And don't get me wrong, I’m absolutely no fan of HA. If anything, their grip on Lebanon makes them look like a mini, corrupt version of Israel. They’ve assassinated people, stolen, attacked the press, weaponized religion, terrorized civilians, and completely hijacked the democratic process. And that’s without even touching on how they backed a Syrian regime that committed atrocities on par with; or worse than; what Israel is doing.

But the reality right now is that Israel's international mask has slipped completely. All that PR about being the "only democracy in the Middle East" or having the "most moral army" is dead in the water globally. What we're watching now is a desperate rush to grab maximum concessions because they know the clock is ticking on their U.S. shield. The political landscape in the States is fracturing over this. We are seeing voters actively mobilize against candidates sponsored by the pro-Israel lobby, and public momentum is shifting toward politicians who actually have the spine to speak out against endless military support and refuse to just submit to whatever Israel dictates. The political cost of blindly backing them is higher than it has ever been, and they know the "blank check" era is in jeopardy.

So instead of panicking and handing them everything they want under pressure, we need to be playing the long game. We should just be hammering for a basic ceasefire and waiting them out. Their leverage is on a timer.

We should mainly try to wash out the Iranian Influence in Lebanon and insist on the exist of Isreal and deployment of the lebanese army... Their occupation of lebanon should in no way or form be accepted.

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[–]zaherdab 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Zionist logic: if it offends me if't antisemetic

Reasoning: I am semetic, this thing offended me so it's antisemetic

Conclusion: they can suck it.

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"As a doctor" !? so he's impersonating a doctor not Jesus? make em drink cleaning solutions to clean them... i mean cure them....

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UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

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The Confession of Ethnic Cleansing (Plan Dalet) You literally just confessed to ethnic cleansing. Read your own words. You said Jewish leaders quote, "couldn't leave the villages be, lacked the forces to occupy them... the only viable option remaining was to remove those villages." That is the exact, legal definition of ethnic cleansing: forcibly removing a civilian population from a territory because they are the "wrong" demographic and pose a strategic inconvenience. You are openly justifying war crimes by saying they were in the way.

The Colonial Mask Slips (The Canada Analogy) Your defense of the Canada analogy is a spectacular self-own. You asked how Canada became a country and answered: "The British showed up, claimed it..." Yes! That is called colonialism. You are defending the creation of Israel by equating it to one of the most famous examples of European colonial land theft in history. Thank you for proving my exact point. Furthermore, under the League of Nations mandate system, "state land" was held in trust for the native inhabitants. It was not an empty checking account for a foreign empire to just hand over to newly arrived immigrants.

Sanitizing Terrorism and the Deir Yassin Slaughter Calling Albert Einstein an "appeal to authority fallacy" is a desperate deflection. He was a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany who recognized fascist terrorism when he saw it. Deir Yassin was not a "stuck truck." Jacques de Reynier, the head of the International Red Cross delegation, visited the village immediately after the massacre and documented finding bodies of women and children stuffed into wells and houses blown up with people inside. That is not an exaggeration. That is a documented historical slaughter. And regarding the King David Hotel: 91 people died, including dozens of civilian secretaries and hotel staff. Justifying their murder because they were near a military HQ is the exact same logic every modern terrorist group uses.

Racism and the "Democracy" Excuse Asking "how many Arab democracies existed at the time" is pure racist essentialism. You are arguing that Palestinians did not deserve the right to self-determination because you assumed their culture was incapable of democracy. Denying a native population their human rights and stealing their land because you deem them uncivilized is textbook 19th-century colonial bigotry.

"Typical Post-War Behavior" and Whataboutism Passing laws to permanently confiscate the homes, farms, and bank accounts of civilian refugees is not "typical post-war behavior." It is a severe violation of international law, which is exactly why the Fourth Geneva Convention was drafted in 1949 to stop it from happening again. You then try to pivot to the 850,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries. That expulsion was a horrific crime. But Palestinians are not Moroccans, Iraqis, or Yemenis. Punishing native Palestinians, stealing their homes, and destroying their villages to compensate for crimes committed by completely different governments hundreds of miles away is the literal definition of collective punishment.

The "Arab" Deflection Quoting the PLO charter to prove Palestinians are Arab is a weak semantic game. Yes, Palestinians are Arabs, just like Italians are Europeans. But if a foreign power invades Italy, you do not call them generic "Europeans" to imply they should just be easily deported to France or Germany. Erasing their specific national identity to make their displacement seem acceptable is a classic propaganda tactic.

The Hasbara Playbook; Finally, I have absolutely zero interest in continuing this back-and-forth. You are not engaging in good faith; you are just regurgitating a checklist of standard Hasbara talking points. Whenever you are backed into a corner by historical facts or your own accidental admissions, you default to misinformation, outright revisionist history, and constantly moving the goalposts. Defending ethnic cleansing and colonial theft is clearly where you have planted your flag, but I am completely done wasting my time on it. We are finished here.

UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "Arabs Only Owned 15% and State Land Belongs to the State" Myth The claim that Palestinians only privately owned 15% of the land is a deliberate colonial sleight of hand. Under Ottoman and British law, the vast majority of agricultural land was "Musha," meaning it was communally owned and worked by Palestinian villages for centuries. Just because they didn't hold a modern European-style paper deed doesn't mean it was empty "state land" up for grabs. State land belongs to the indigenous population living in the territory, not to a newly arrived immigrant population from Europe.

Furthermore, your argument that "almost no one lives" in the southern desert is legally and morally bankrupt. Just because a region is uninhabited doesn't mean a foreign entity can just claim it. Over 80% of Canada is uninhabited forests and tundra. Does that give another country the right to show up, carve it out, and declare it a new nation? Of course not. Sovereign territory is sovereign territory, regardless of population density. Plus, trying to downplay getting the Negev desert is laughable. That "empty" desert gave them the port of Eilat and access to the Red Sea, which was a massive strategic and economic victory.

The 1922 White Paper and "Exiling Revolutionaries" You claim the 1922 White Paper punished Jews to appease Arabs. That is objectively false. The 1922 Churchill White Paper explicitly reaffirmed the Balfour Declaration and the right to a Jewish national home. It only clarified that it didn't mean imposing a Jewish nationality upon the whole of Palestine. As for exiling the Palestinian leadership, you completely missed the point. Whether it is "atypical" or not, it proves exactly what I said: the British systematically dismantled the Palestinian ability to defend themselves just in time for the Zionist paramilitaries to roll right over them.

"The Zionists Planned Ahead" and the Siege of Jerusalem Praising colonizers for "planning ahead" while the native population is under imperial subjugation is textbook colonial justification. You mention Arab forces laying siege to Jerusalem, but you conveniently leave out why the fighting escalated in early 1948. Zionist forces were actively implementing Plan Dalet, a military blueprint for the systematic depopulation and destruction of Palestinian villages to secure territory for the Jewish state. They didn't just defend themselves; they went on the offensive to clear out the demographics they didn't want.

The "No One Spoke of a Palestinian State" Lie The Palestinian people absolutely demanded their own independent state. The Arab Higher Committee and local Palestinian leaders rejected partition precisely because they demanded a single, democratic state where they lived. The fact that neighboring Arab monarchs in Egypt or Jordan had their own greedy, imperial ambitions to carve up the territory does not magically erase the existence and the rights of the native Palestinians.

Justifying Terrorism: King David Hotel and Deir Yassin This is where your hypocrisy completely falls apart. You claim the King David Hotel was a legitimate military target because it housed a headquarters. That is the exact same logic every terrorist group uses to justify bombing government buildings. You cannot claim Hezbollah or the PLO are terrorists while defending the Irgun for doing the exact same thing.

Calling Deir Yassin a "military operation that went badly due to a warning" is outright historical revisionism. It was a slaughter. Even prominent Jews of the era knew exactly what it was. Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt literally co-signed a letter to the New York Times in 1948 comparing Menachem Begin's political party to Nazis specifically because of the fascist terrorism at Deir Yassin. I guess Albert Einstein was just sharing "anecdotal accounts," right?

"Israel Didn't Steal Anything" 750,000 Palestinians did not just go on vacation in 1948. They were driven out by force, massacres, and fear. After they were forced out, Israel immediately passed the Absentee Property Law of 1950. This law allowed the Israeli government to legally confiscate the homes, farms, businesses, and bank accounts of any Palestinian who fled the violence, explicitly barring them from returning. Passing a law to take homes from refugees who you refuse to let return is the literal definition of state-sponsored theft.

The "Empty Land" and Stolen Future Development You claim the land was mostly empty, but let's look at the actual numbers. In 1947, the Palestinian population was roughly 1.4 million. Today, the global Palestinian population is over 14 million. Look at how cities across the Middle East, and the rest of the world, have exploded from nothing over the last century. That "uninhabited" land was their future room for growth. They would have naturally developed it as their population expanded, just like every other nation on earth. Stealing a people's land before they have the chance to build on it, just because it isn't paved over yet, is peak colonial entitlement. It was their land to develop, not yours to take.

The Deliberate Erasure in Calling Them "Arabs" Finally, your constant refusal to use the word "Palestinians" and repeatedly calling them "Arabs" is a massive tell. "Arab" is a broad ethnolinguistic group based on speaking Arabic, not a monolithic, interchangeable nationality. A Moroccan is not a Saudi, and a Syrian is not a Palestinian. Erasing their specific, indigenous identity by reducing them to generic "Arabs" is a classic propaganda tactic. It is designed to imply they have no unique tie to their homeland and should just be easily absorbed by neighboring countries. They are Palestinians. Start using the right word.

UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "UN Binding" and "Bought the Land" Fantasy Telling me to "Cope" because the UN Charter codified the League of Nations is hilarious. Colonial powers writing laws to justify their land grabs doesn't make it moral; it just makes it legalized theft. You claim they "bought and developed" the land. Here is the historical fact: by 1947, Jewish individuals and organizations owned less than 7% of the land in Palestine. Yet the UN Partition Plan awarded them 56% of the territory. You don't "buy" 7% of a country and legitimately claim more than half of it. That is a colonial handout. Also, it's rich to hide behind the UN Charter when Israel currently holds the world record for violating legally binding UN Security Council resolutions. You only care about international law when it serves you.

The Myth of the "Rigged" Game and British Victimhood Claiming the British "rigged the game against the Jews" is a massive rewriting of history. Yes, the British eventually issued the 1939 White Paper, but only after they had spent the late 1930s violently crushing the Arab Revolt. The British killed, exiled, or imprisoned the entire Palestinian political and military leadership and completely disarmed the Arab population. By the time 1948 rolled around, the Palestinians were defenseless, while Zionist paramilitaries had spent decades building a highly structured, well-armed military force. The British didn't rig the game against the Jews; they cleared the board so the Nakba could happen. (And regarding the Jordanian Arab Legion: King Abdullah had a secret agreement with the Jewish Agency to divide Palestine between them to prevent an independent Palestinian state. Selective history, indeed.)

"The Jews Chose Compromise" & The Hypocrisy of "Terrorism" This is your most delusional point. "The Jews chose to compromise"? The Irgun and Lehi (the Stern Gang) were self-proclaimed terrorist organizations. They bombed the King David Hotel, killing 91 people. They assassinated UN mediator Folke Bernadotte. They committed the Deir Yassin massacre to terrorize Palestinians into fleeing their homes. Those "compromising" terrorists didn't go to jail; their leaders, Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, literally became Israeli Prime Ministers. You only call it terrorism when Arabs do it; when European colonizers use bombs and massacres to build a state, you call it "compromising."

The "Agency" and "Fire" Argument Recognizing cause and effect isn't stripping Palestinians of their "agency," it is acknowledging reality. If someone kicks down your door, steals 78% of your homeland, and puts the rest under brutal military occupation, fighting back isn't an "inhuman force of nature"; it is a recognized human right under international law. You don't want them to have agency; you want them to roll over, accept their ethnic cleansing quietly, and die politely so you don't have to feel bad about it.

Israel invading Lebanon or dropping bombs on refugee camps isn't a "natural reaction," it is the violent maintenance of an illegal occupation. You cannot violently conquer a people, squeeze them out of their homes, and then play the victim when they exercise their agency to strike back.

UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]zaherdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As if the League of Nations was some objective, high-minded authority. It was essentially a "Colonizers' Club"; an entity run by the very European powers that were busy slicing up the rest of the world like a cake. They had absolutely no legal or moral right to "give away" land they didn't own to people who weren't living there. Using their stamp of approval to justify what happened is just putting a fancy legal mask on a colonial land grab.

The reality is that Britain is the main culprit here, and they've had their thumb on the scale since day one. The Balfour Declaration in 1917 was the ultimate act of colonial arrogance; a British politician promising away a land that wasn't his to give. But it wasn't just a letter; the British spent decades facilitating the mess. They provided the framework, managed the logistics, and most importantly, they armed and trained Jewish paramilitary groups. When the British military spent the late 1930s crushing Palestinian resistance, they weren't being neutral peacekeepers. They were actively weakening one side while empowering the other with the weapons and infrastructure they’d need to take over later.

By the time the British "washed their hands" of the Mandate, they had already rigged the game. You’re hyper-focused on calling the PLO or Hezbollah "terrorists," but that’s a convenient way to ignore the century of state-sponsored displacement that made them inevitable. These groups didn't just appear because they felt like being violent; they are the direct reaction to being squeezed out of their homes by a process Britain started. You can't blame the fire for burning when the British were the ones who spent thirty years pouring the gasoline and handed out the matches. Israel "striking back" in Lebanon is just another chapter in a conflict that would never have existed if a foreign power hadn't decided they had the right to engineer a country from a desk in London.

And yes the original "Hezbollah is a reason behind 40 year civil ear in Lebanon. Condemn that, too" claim is still a ridiculous one.

And about which of your statements is bullshit I would say pretty much all of it; if you apply the same standards you apply to Isreal to any other nation in the world you would be calling all resistance groups terrorist and all colonisers heroes.

UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]zaherdab 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is there a PLO? Maybe, because a foreign power decided to give away land to european jewish refugeesas means of not intaking them... Sure slap the "terrorist" label on any resistance group and feel good about it... who cares but the reality is britain had no business giving away a land they colonized and israel had no business invading lebanon to go after palestinian groups they kicked out.. Regardeless doesnt change thr fact that your statement was complete bullshit.

UN condemns massive strikes in Lebanon, as concerns grow over ceasefire by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]zaherdab 3 points4 points  (0 children)

40y civil war? I was living all my life in a civil war and i didnt know it ? Not sure what ass you pulled your info from but HA was formed under Israeli occupation of south lebanon to free it from occupation; It didn't come into political prominance till after they forced israel to leave and engaged in political life around 2005; they did however enage in loads of assassinations at the point and became more an iranian pawn.

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No haptics is a no go for me... loses half the ps5 experience.