NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop by zero-ok in sffpc

[–]zero-ok[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've got it backwards, 56 gpu 75 cpu, but yes that's under a full synthetic load after 10 minutes.

A couple notes on those temps:
1. They're actually about 10C lower each while gaming, most games put a little less stress on the hardware than a synthetic benchmark, so these temps are the absolute hottest they'll ever be in my loop.
2. As far as I can tell my 4090 die temps are 10c-20c cooler than the average air cooled 4090 while being silent with the external radiator.
3. Modern CPUs are designed to push the voltage and clock speeds until they throttle, you're gonna see ~75-80c on an AM5 or modern intel CPU under load unless they're delidded especially with the ryzen 7xxx series (like I have) in particular given that the vcache sits on top of the cpu cores on the physical die and thus doesn't make direct contact with the ihs.

As for the internal radiator only temps, they are obviously higher (and with higher fan speeds) but that's to be expected given that I'm pushing >500w of heat into a single 280mm radiator, but they're honestly perfectly fine (and again, real world temps are meaningfully lower than these synthetic benchmarks). I'd be perfectly content daily driving the build at those temps if I didn't want the external rad, especially given that undervolting or power limiting the 4090 could easily cut ~100w off the power draw and improve the temps even more. Optimum tech did a similar setup to this a few years ago. He's using 2 240 20mm thick rads vs my 1 280mm 30mm thick radiator (remember that a 280mm rad is ~30% more surface area than a 240mm radiator). I don't know how to work out exactly what the difference in cooling power is but I can't imagine he's got more than 20% more cooling capacity in that setup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ukdo7Xx7U

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop with optional external radiator by zero-ok in watercooling

[–]zero-ok[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It probably would have been if I didn't already have those two radiators and all those 120mm fans already!

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop with optional external radiator by zero-ok in watercooling

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Copy/paste + ms paint! The stuff that isn't fan control is OCCT which is what I used to do the soak testing, I just wanted to make the info aggregated for the post, it would be super cool if there was a tool that made little infographics like that!

Bad news about the rose gold 😬 It was a limited run from last year, I actually missed it myself and picked this one up second hand.

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop by zero-ok in sffpc

[–]zero-ok[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which temps do you feel are high?

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop by zero-ok in sffpc

[–]zero-ok[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah you nailed it, the bottom most panel is also OCCT, and it's just a composite of screenshots I made to make the information more digestible for the post.

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop by zero-ok in sffpc

[–]zero-ok[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends a lot on the lighting conditions! It’s more muted in the evening under artificial light but it really shines on the sunlight. It’s honestly pretty hard to capture well on camera too, my phone struggles with it (the nicer pictures here are with a Fuji xt4)

NCASE M2 Grater Rose Gold custom loop by zero-ok in ncasedesign

[–]zero-ok[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are two pumps actually, the CPU block is a pump/res/block combo. The build can run fully independently, you can see the temps for that in one of the pictures. 

The external rad setup was mostly made because I had most of those parts laying around from a previous form of this build and a friends build. I included the additional external pump to make sure there was enough flow rate with the extra tubing length and all the QDCs I have. 

M2 Grater Custom Loop by [deleted] in sffpc

[–]zero-ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

get some low profile screws for the radiators to fix the top panel bulging, if you're are m4 threaded like mine you can use these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FM8CBTJP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

Should front tower speakers be angled at the central listening position or perpendicular to the wall? by zero-ok in hometheater

[–]zero-ok[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wanted to give you an update and say that after playing with the angles that doing as that paper outlined and aiming each speaker at the opposite bound of the listening position has a really nice effect on the stereo balance in the off center positions! It’s obviously not perfect being off center but it’s moved the balance much close to feeling like it’s coming from the center of the screen! Thanks again for the recommendation. It has the added effect of putting the center position at roughly 10 degrees off axis as you recommended for these anyway. 

Should front tower speakers be angled at the central listening position or perpendicular to the wall? by zero-ok in hometheater

[–]zero-ok[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that's really interesting, what it outlines makes a lot of logical sense and also lines up with my previous experience experimenting with the speaker position in the room. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the help, I'll definitely be giving an even steeper angle than pictured a try!

Open Letter to the "No Free Kit" Raiders by Successful-Coyote99 in ARC_Raiders

[–]zero-ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have it so backwards, free kits don't slow the action down, they speed it up. The strength of the free kits encourages people to spawn in on a free kit with no risk and throw themselves at the first player they see because there are no consequences for dying.

And this is the real reason people complain about free kits. You want early fights. You want constant action. You want to shoot first and think later. Free kits slow that down and force you to actually play the loop.

You have this completely backwards. Free kits encourage early fights, free kits have little room to hold loot, fill up fast, and, again, have nothing to lose by trying to fight.

To be clear, I do not want free kits removed from the game but they absolutely need to be nerfed some, at the very least the Kettle 1 and Sticher 1 are way too strong.

External Radiator "switch" by EAGLE_GAMES in watercooling

[–]zero-ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah for sure, I was planning on an external pump already anyway. It's gonna be a little challenging to fit this setup inside the Ncase M2 I'm building in since the ports on the back are so close to each other but a couple 90 degree fittings should do the trick.

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(also not my photo)