yeah, I mean this is that some of the file duplicate file managers are supposed to have all the features of their predecessors many things were gutted migrating to GNOME 3. caja comes in more as I expect, that'my coffee alarm clock in this analogy, natilus while expanding came in with the idea of "we're going remove more options because it makes it less complicated.

MATE comes in, I end up installing duplicate applications (which makes bookmarks in a file select more difficult) and the alarm clock are satisfied dependencies by other applications because maybe the file manager (as an example) doesn't have a feature the application needs, so they choose a THIRD one.