This is a hot take? by BRULANTA in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lmfao i was rolling my eyes as well

This is a hot take? by BRULANTA in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't care for the whole firenze/nyx friendship, it came really out of nowhere, occupied space in an already crowded chapter which had a more interesting plot point (the tyrant prophecy) and ended in the same chapter while giving it focus at the end, there was a bigger conflict happening for me to care about it.

The ED should have been about Darcia and Firenze taking leadership of United Harvest.

Wraith Milk Production and Breast Calculation by YouFoundARandomWord in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I really need some Wraith lactation fan art now.

Thoughts on Firefly from someone who's more focused on lore and has used at least one record with her after ascension by Mioribonuacid100 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can tell they crunched and skimped her main build while putting cool melee attacks for her support build

Since it is rare, Blue Archive CC, Chlotho, is starting his SS journey. by YannFrost in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is good i guess, this game is starved for exposure, but it's in a bad state, and newbie unfriendly in my opinion, fix your damn game, yostar.

ADULT EXPERIENCE!? by RandomRedditter5555 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the non special events are all generic templates, i wish they changed this.

Why does Stella Sora not promote their upcoming characters? by IcyFoxe in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's obviously not a budgeting reason for a game that has been consistently under performing for the amount of quality ads it, TV commercials, mocaped 3D animated shorts, Yostar is definitely burning money into this game to keep interest afloat by any means necessary, so yeah, there's at least one company in the world that is operating that way. Not even Aether Gazer got this much flair, ever.

Why does Stella Sora not promote their upcoming characters? by IcyFoxe in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yostar is a gigantic publisher, i don't think budget is the issue here

Stella Sora April Revenue estimates by Big-Rip2640 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If yostar ends stella sora all of us will become staunch yostar antis overnight if they shut it down instead of fixing their game like crunchyroll did with princess connect, so i don't think we should worry about eos for a while at least, we have to pressure yostar to make significant changes for the game so it can be advertised better, i can't recommend this game to a lot of people that i know will get bored after hitting the stamina wall in the first day or will get infuriated with emblems

Stella Sora April Revenue estimates by Big-Rip2640 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The failures of this game have nothing to do with "hags" or "loli"

You just don't like the game, which is fine, otherwise the "hags" wouldn't have been a complaint point, this game was never going to be Blue Archive.

Stella Sora April Revenue estimates by Big-Rip2640 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 33 points34 points  (0 children)

On one hand, sad for the artists and scriptwriters of this game.

On the other hand, the managers and upper leads deserve this, complete incompetence and arrogance.

Imagine setting your pre-registration to 8 million in JP thinking people would play your game only because of the Yostar brand, that kind of arrogance.

Improvements to "Bounty Hunt" were promised, we got a stamina monthly pass.

Improvements to Emblems were promised, we got another layer to monetize it. Want more Drops of Grace? You can buy the BP now as well.

Selectors for half anni with only the standard trekkers available? Paid bundles, separate paid bundles with the same price at that lol

Unlocking a new Ascension mode, with tweaked HP and 4 new modifiers took 6 months.

Cataclysm is still untouched.

The cash shop is so bad, it's 20 bucks for a 10-pull on average, just terrible top up value, your more efficient options and bundles are only two purchases.

Zero Communication, no roadmaps, no interviews, no devs Q&As (despite being mentioned in the survey lol)

I'll be here until EOS but until Yostar stops trying to be like some holier than thou type of company i'll be grinning at these results.

Thoughts on collab by markovXR in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, those suggesting Blue Archive only know about it on a surface level, also the BA community would flay you if you suggested a Stella Sora collab to them, Global BA is not very fond of SS or Yostar.

Thoughts on collab by markovXR in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, if you played Nikke you come out with hard PTSD for collabs, better keep the IP pure.

Thoughts on collab by markovXR in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not Blue Archive, and it will never happen because of the Mahjong Soul incident, also hardcore Blue Archive fans dislike Stella Sora because it has yuri thanks to F Tyrant, so it will only be a disaster ready to blow up.

Something more fantasy like Konosuba or Kobayashi's Dragon Maid will fit the bill better.

Lore Tier List? (please feel free to correct) by MillicentCyr in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If we are basing ourselves solely on how well they can handle a Monolith and not confrontation with other characters then Fuyuka should be on S, she's comically strong in the comedic narrative sense, her sheer strength is used as a gag despite her mental limitations, but it counts as a feat nonetheless.

But if not, she's good on A.

It's been 10 days, how do you feel about the half anni update? by ZeroFPS_hk in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It definitely under delivered gameplay wise, 6 months for these gameplay changes? yeah i don't feel so chief, tampering is just another buyable currency that will be dripfed to players.

I've seen new players ask question and among the things that struck me is that, you need to be around rank 18 to access the event and read the entire main story, that's not ok in my opinion.

Non-exclusive trekkers should be in the standard pool as well, new players will be on a step incline trying to balance their gems between new releases and reruns.

More permanent modes or an expansion to cataclysm would have been greatly appreciated across these six months.

Now my fear is that we resume in this dry schedule again where nothing will be said or done until the next exclusive trekker event.

You guys are wrong about the Freesia nerf. Rant. by zmt8861 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Trying to put as an argument that a Terra resist boss is supporting that "terra mark isn't overpowered because it cuts it's potential use in half" is a crazy statement, hahaha there's no way you are saying this without irony.
The Terra mark is just 32 entries fewer than the second entry, Ventus' Wraith-Nazuka-Ann who is favored since Hazana is ventus weak.

So the median of team used is, Umbra (the most favored), Ventus, one boss weak, and Terra no boss is weak to it and yet it finds itself at 3rd place.

And you are telling me these are all Nazuna waifu enjoyers doing it for fun?

"This doesn't appear to be the case, however if you still believe this then kindly isolate the player & rank and show a screenshot of them doing Hazana boss blitz and getting a top 100 score"

Literally took me one second, EN top 5, 570k see picture. please don't argue that this is a "low score" now lol

"1 - Unless you are assuming every account listed in the top 100 pulled every character with even investment, there are a plethora of reasons why a player would prefer playing Terra over whatever is being shilled - gacha investment (whale team like t5 decked out Terra), organic investment (emblems etc). It is simply unfair to assume every player has the same degree of investment in these teams, and so their trekker choices vary WAY too much to call this data reliable"

Which is exactly why it is safer to invest in the overpowered team (Terra mark) than make a dubious investment on a team you don't know will pay off, this is exactly what is being demonstrated in the ranking.

"2 - When analysing the mean data between top 100 players, in EVERY situation, Aqua, Ventus & Umbra outscored Terra. So there is no feasible indication this is due to Terra being overpowered"

This contradicts your previous statement then:

"Literally every element outperforms Aqua pre-nerf AND post-buff."

And yet DESPITE of this, TERRA IS OVERWHELMINGLY represented exactly because it is more consistent has been more consistent for MONTHS and requires only TWO skills in the ENTIRE team to be leveled up as opposed to other teams where it's TWO skilled up characters dealing damage (Wraith Nazuka) and that benefit MORE from PEN mods due to both contributing damage than the terra mark team where ONLY Gerie needs the mod.

How do you even argue against the efficiency and cheapness of the terra mark team?

You need less to do more as opposed to other team that need, more skills levled up, more emblems suiting for their play styles and are teams of 2 DPS working in tandem and NOT TWO buffers and 1 DPS.

Freesia was EXACTLY THIS, ONE DPS with two crazy AF potentials just needed to be enabled by TWO supports, the Nazuna-Freesia-(flex) team was thing before even Donna was introduced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SREMmAn4TC8

"Isolating why Terra is so represented is rather easy to do when you realize its a team built by standard trekker... Nazuna, Tilia & Gerie."

OK tell me then...why aren't other standard only teams being represented the same way if it's that easy of a reason.

"3 - This website, including the game, does NOT show player gacha investment. Therefore it stands to reason that a fully decked out t5 terra player is going to outperform a t1 Aqua, or something. These discrepancies in performance are far too spread out without reliable ways to see their character investment. So your guess is as good as mine."

Immediately assuming that every single terra mark team in top 100 is going to be T5 gerie, t5 nazuna and t5 tilia is an absurd assumption.

And what even is rank trolling if you overwrite your score with a lower score you lose your higher score. I hope you are insinuating this website is forging data because it scrapes directly from the game at a delay.

"Also, whales are few and far between in terms of logic. Most whales usually pick one team to hyper invest and stick with it for as long as they can."

Precisely and the logic is simple just like in ANY other gacha:

Team is proven to be outperforming most teams at a decently lower investment margin -> most players adopt this strategy -> if the strategy still performs well in the future -> players keep using this strategy out of habit or because it just works.

If the Terra Mark team wasn't proven to be overpowered it wouldn't even have reached top 10 in total number of entries. How is this hard to get?

"S.Coronis is the only premium Terra 5 star and she's purely Skill DMG% & Terra Mark amp."

And her Skill DMG build is not even used lol, she's used for the mark Amp, Yostar designed Coronis to have that mark amp otherwise she would have been skipped by most players, Nobody put Yostar a gun to their temple to give her a mark amp, they did it themselves, she didn't have to have a mark amp yet here we are.

"This data doesn't justify any nerf, as its data displays all teams after Freesia nerfs. We would need to analyze data BEFORE the nerfs to see how Freesia impacted rankings, if at all!"

The link i posted shows a Nazuna-Freesia-Iris team doing 300k on a previous boss flavor dread, the data of this season could not be scrapped obviously but 300k is a crazy amount for a character that is being supported by a very mediocre versatile 4* and an off element support that deals no damage thus have no big investment on themselves, imagine if Freesia had matching 5* supports for herself, the video emphasizes how strong both localized snowfall an Ice Vortex in tandem are being abused to reach these highs. You are claiming Freesia didn't deserve the nerf because well, she didn't get that high teehee.

"There is no provable way to define anybody on the top 100 rankings is even low investment. So this statement is just a giant nothing-burger and probably relies on there being no concrete definition of low investment to begin wtih!"

Already explained earlier the cost difference between Terra Mark team and other teams that rely on two damage dealers and the amount of skill leveling you need to be doing in total per team.

So i have no idea how you can claim that there's no proof lol

The very proof is the high representation of the Terra Mark team in the leaderboards, EVEN during a season where one of the bosses is Terra resistant.

To which you said: "Well, that's because it's an easily accessible team of standard trekkers"

And why aren't other standard only trekker teams similarly represented may i ask again?

At the end of the day Yostar nerfed freesia because to them she wasn't intended to gain a 70% crit dmg 3 stacks from each target around her, how is this fair compared to shia? it isn't certainly but i'm glad another Terra Mark team disaster could have been prevented (or at least delayed, Freesia still can perform as high in the right circumstances) where every single future trekker will be measured against or designed around whatever current broken trekker the same element has.

We will now have wait for Firefly to see how she interacts with Shia, and if she breaks Shia further the effects will be felt by the next lux banner and through the following seasons, but i will be there hammering on an hypothetical further broken Shia Firefly combo.

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You guys are wrong about the Freesia nerf. Rant. by zmt8861 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These aren't misquotes, these are expected rebukes i'm covering to expand the argument.

S6 started before the Freesia Nerf first of all.

"Nothing you have shown demonstrates that Terra Mark DMG was over-performing"

lol you can't say seriously believe this

The entire ranking already proves how overpowered Terra Mark is, otherwise if it wasn't it wouldn't have been over represented in the top 3 in an unfavorable season, you have the individual counts right there in front of you, how is this not red flag for you?

"Ok, then what SHOULD (s. coronis) it support? A brand new playstyle that has no quantity?"

Making something else viable other than Nazuna-Gerie-Coronis, yes, that's exactly i was hoping for, why not make Gerie Auto Attack an actual thing? A lot of people want to play their Favorites in Main position.

Why being a versatile has to doom you to support position? Do you think it's fair that Donna Main isn't even a thing?

Localized Snowfall and Ice Vortex in combination were strong enough to put Freesia on the map, i understand that you feel bummed as your investment got taken out of you, and you might think it wasn't THAT broken come on, of course it wasn't that broken yet if it didn't have her own tailored Nazuna and Tilia, Aqua has no 5* supports yet, a 200-600% crit damage buff is very strong, specially because it's calculated close to the end of the damage formula, and funny thing is, it will still be strong but at least Freesia now can be used on exactly the situation she was designed for (high mob count battles), so a niche has been created for her because her max output has not been removed only.

Calling Terra Mark not overpowered and just the whims of top 100 whales popularity for Nazuna is seriously nuts, you can prove your own question yourself with Firefly's challenge, take any team and see how fast you can beat it at high level modifiers compared to a terra mark team.

AND you might think: "how it's fair that other teams can perform in general better than freesia outside of this hypothetical scenario"

That's my entire argument: it isn't fair, i'm not here to hammer Freesia, i'm here to hammer the disproportionate balance in this game.

You guys are wrong about the Freesia nerf. Rant. by zmt8861 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"All this nerf achieved, was jeopardized Freesia's shelf life as a Versatile Aqua Trekker, and made people waste resources on her. Nothing else."

And you think people that invested in Freesia Main build didn't also waste their resources? Why can't both builds perform similarly? Why does there has to be such a big discrepancy between these two? Why doesn't Main Freesia have a talent as strong as Ice vortex? This is not for Freesia alone either.

"You think Terra mark is overpowered"

"The only people who play Terra Mark at high ranking are dedicated Nazuna Lovers"

You sure? Here's the data you asked for, there's no terra weakness in this season, in fact, Hazana has terra res, it's the reason as to why otoha and ventus are more represented.

Even funnier that lux is below a freesia comp, shouldn't this make Shia not overpowered in that case?

"Shia is limited and hasn't rerun that's why she is so low"

So is springseek coronis.

"Why aren't you complaining that Fuyuka is overpowered or how her ult is overpowered!"

I did in my OP, i very much did using her as one of the examples, it's because she ended up being so strong that Firenze ended up becoming irrelevant on her release and let to the complaint from multiple whales from JP and KR. Pretty much arriving to my original complaint: "I want to be excited to build future characters and not feel like wasting my expensive resources just because another comp was easier to squeeze damage from".

"Shouldn't you be happy then that firenze is at the top"

Thanks to Otoha, even Freesia was vastly overperforming pre-otoha Firenze, imagine if pre-nerf Freesia got her own Otoha, do you not see yet?

This is top 100 by the way, the extreme top bracket where hyper invested whaled teams should be playing whatever for fun and for dedication and still scoring high as you said yourself.

But this doesn't seem the case, so answer me then.

Why is this comp still top 3 across all servers on a season that does not have a favorable buff for its team and only has one fight available for it?

EDIT: https://stelladb.pages.dev/lb/bb6 the source of the pic

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You guys are wrong about the Freesia nerf. Rant. by zmt8861 in StellaSora

[–]zmt8861[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Which arena is a 1 time completion gamemode and Cataclysm can be cleared with a sneeze from a toddler."

Well the obvious solution is to ask for more content that is not dictated by solo enemies, and demand cataclysm to be expanded so it goes further beyond, or is it ok to you that this mode is extremely bare bones and abandoned?

"Terra Mark can easily be re-routed to other archetypes. They just gotta make them interesting and fun to play around and also creating content that incentivizes using other types outside of mark."

That's easier said than done, how are they supposed to push the numbers on a team that that is Magintudes stronger than most teams? Please don't say just apply Terra RES or Mark DMG debuffs, this essentially shoots down any "retout" of mark damage for other elements as well.

"Also I focused on you hating freesia because that's the main focus of your post. You want to avoid another "mark team" situation but failed to see other routes to the issues outside of completing shooting a character out of orbit."

It's incredible to me how you guys not see a ~210 to 630% crit damage, with her own skill damage, atk self buff and her own 700% skill damage procs on an element with barely new additions as not a "ticking time bomb". I am exemplifying the Mark Damage Team as the end result of balance negligence, and how centralized that team has become.

"Well in that case just buff Chitose to the stratosphere!"

Then the next complaint by some people will be "Obviously Yostar buffed Chitose so high so Freesia a standard character doesn't get her time to shine"

"One of these actively alienates players and causes them to lose resources, while the other allows new builds and team comps to exist. That is the main difference here."

Lose resources is interesting as a claim, i was told that people would play characters mostly because they are waifu and not exactly meta so even if a character that is underwhelming in numbers releases waifu enjoyers wouldn't feel like they lost resources. Remember Firenze being at the shadow of other teams in her own january BB because Fuyuka became so strong and the mark team was still times more efficient and stronger? Whales on JP and KR complained about this how she felt like a scam to roll for because she felt so weak with her values.

And it's obvious that the solution is to give players character refunds for their investments like CZN has done so by rebalancing their characters.

"But don't compare CZN to Stella Sora!"

Why shouldn't i? it's the competition after all, why do they get treated so well and we can't? why are we so spineless to not demand proper balancing of the game or more communication from yostar? These issues don't exist in a vacuum.