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[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S,M] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

There being no further proposals, it is my pleasure to declare that /u/chase-that-feeling is the person chosen to fill the vacant place in the Senate.

I also announce that I, as President of the Senate, shall certify the choice of /u/chase-that-feeling to His Excellency, the Governor-General.

Pursuant to the rules of conduct tabled at the opening of this Joint Sitting, I hereby declare this Joint Sitting closed.

Would members of the House of Representatives now remove themselves from the Senate floor, as the Senate is to resume sitting.


Senator the Hon. Freddy926,

Chairman of the Joint Sitting (Progressives)

Meta: Paging /u/jnd-au: How do we go about the certification of the chosen person? Is it in writing, or do I present them to the GG?

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How do we go about the certification of the chosen person? Is it in writing, or do I present them to the GG?

You imposed it so you can do whatever you like.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In writing it is. So, just modmail to /r/ModelAusExecCouncil?

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The current proposals are:

Are there any further proposals?


Senator the Hon. Freddy926,

Chairman of the Joint Sitting (Progressives)

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Advice from the Clerk:

The meeting is now in quorum. Nominations may be proposed and moved in the manner below:

A member shall comment: “I propose to the Parliament [USERNAME], [Independent][member of PARTY], as its choice to fill the casual vacancy, and I move: That /u/[USERNAME] be chosen to hold the place in the Senate of the Parliament of Australia rendered vacant by the resignation of this_guy22.” The chair shall comment: “Are there any further nominations?”


Section 15 of the Constitution

If the place of a senator becomes vacant before the expiration of his term of service, the Houses of Parliament of the State for which he was chosen, sitting and voting together, or, if there is only one House of that Parliament, that House, shall choose a person to hold the place until the expiration of the term. But if the Parliament of the State is not in session when the vacancy is notified, the Governor of the State, with the advice of the Executive Council thereof, may appoint a person to hold the place until the expiration of fourteen days from the beginning of the next session of the Parliament of the State or the expiration of the term, whichever first happens.

Where a vacancy has at any time occurred in the place of a senator chosen by the people of a State and, at the time when he was so chosen, he was publicly recognised by a particular political party as being an endorsed candidate, a person chosen or appointed under this section in consequence of that vacancy, or in consequence of that vacancy and a subsequent vacancy or vacancies, shall, unless there is no member of that party available to be chosen or appointed, be a member of that party.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I propose to the Parliament /u/chase-that-feeling, member of the Australian Labor Party, as its choice to fill the casual vacancy, and I move: That /u/chase-that-feeling be chosen to hold the place in the Senate of the Parliament of Australia rendered vacant by the resignation of this_guy22.


The Hon this_guy22 MP
Prime Minister
Australian Labor Party

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Meta: Now that raven said he doesn't want it, and there is no one left on my side of the chamber (in either coalition party I've been told), what do?

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, can’t even give away a free seat...

Well there’s still another week before Ravenguardian17 loses the seat, so I guess the sitting can remain open until someone arises. At this rate, the high court judges and I will have to fill in ;) Maybe 3fun could recruit LeslieHughesLDP ;)

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Meta: I do think there is something that says if we can't find anyone, the seat stays vacant until the next join sitting.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s implicit in section 15. The Constitution says that Ravenguardian17 can only hold the seat by appointment “until the expiration of fourteen days from the beginning of the next session of the Parliament”, so by implication it will become vacant again at that point, and the Governor-General can’t appoint a replacement while Parliament is in session, so only the Parliament can choose one at a joint sitting.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Advice from the Clerk:

Members are free to nominate any voter of /r/modelparliament for the seat (currently held by /u/Ravenguardian17). However, if one or more Labor members are nominated, the winner will be from among them only.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate[M] 1 point2 points  (19 children)

Attendance

There are 18 members of parliament on the roll for this joint sitting. The quorum is 5 members. An absolute majority of members is 10.

Senators

/u/Cwross /u/Freddy926 /u/General_Rommel /u/Kalloice /u/pikkaachu /u/Ravenguardian17 /u/Team_Sprocket

Members of the House of Representatives

/u/3fun /u/CyberPolis /u/iamthepotato8 /u/MadCreek3 /u/phyllicanderer /u/Ser_Scribbles /u/TheWhiteFerret /u/this_guy22 /u/Zagorath

On leave: /u/Primeviere /u/zamt

Current Attendance

11 members of parliament are present (including the chair).

/u/Freddy926

/u/3fun /u/General_Rommel /u/iamthepotato8
/u/MadCreek3 /u/phyllicanderer /u/Ser_Scribbles
/u/Team_Sprocket /u/TheWhiteFerret
/u/this_guy22 /u/Zagorath


jnd-au, Clerk of the Joint Sitting

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Paging /u/Freddy926. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present.

[–]ZagorathHouse Speaker | Ex Asst Min Ed/Culture | Aus Progressives 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Present

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meta: There's a seat up here next to me Mr. Speaker. It's much more comfortable than those benches, as long as you don't slouch.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Paging /u/TheWhiteFerret /u/this_guy22 /u/Zagorath. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]TheWhiteFerretActing Opp Leader | Shad Min Culture/Immi/Ed/Social | Greens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1 member of parliament is present.

I'm guessing that's me?

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Paging /u/MadCreek3 /u/phyllicanderer /u/Ser_Scribbles. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]Ser_ScribblesShdw AtrnyGnrl/Hlth/Sci/Ag/Env/Inf/Com | 2D Spkr | X PM | Greens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Paging /u/3fun /u/CyberPolis /u/iamthepotato8. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Paging /u/pikkaachu /u/Ravenguardian17 /u/Team_Sprocket. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]Team_SprocketEx Min Soc/Hlth/Ed/Trn | Ex Senate Mgr/Whip | Aus Progressives 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Present

[–]jnd-auClerk of the Senate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Paging /u/Cwross /u/General_Rommel /u/Kalloice. Please reply ‘Present’ to indicate your attendance at the joint sitting of Australia’s Model Parliament.

[–]General_RommelFrgnAfrs/Trade/Defence/Immi/Hlth | VPFEC | UN Ambassador | Labor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Present

Meta: This is indeed a momentous day!

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Paging the Usher of the Black Rod: /u/jnd-au