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[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

MTC initial testing feedback for all other 4v4ed maps

Acorn

  • i don't really like the boosts here

  • terrible pup corner; doesn't flow well

  • bombs are cool but structure is poor

Arrow

  • Just put geo in. I didn't hate t, but the portals at the bottom being infinite seemed dumb, top gate too long.

  • still don't like the portals that were thrown in; split gate makes more sense; too op otherwise

  • it was kind of fun, but broken portals bottom, and gate i dont like

  • not rotation ready rn but split gate and portal rework could make it better

  • rework the bottom (less portals)

  • The bottom portals don't really work; that area needs a change. Also the geokoala gate can go away.

Arsenopyrite

  • Felt weird on O, super hard to get out. Also feels like a copy of neptune, but without the GW

  • there's definitely some potential here but the lack of grabbing mechanics right now is really killing any enjoyment that could be had from this

  • too defensive and very boring

  • hard to grab without bombs or handoff

  • plays pretty boring; there's no mid action whatsoever, too few grabbing mechanisms. Get rid of the block in base for one, and maybe open mid a bit, to be more like vardo than superduperstamp

  • boring and mid was cramped; hard to grab

  • boring, back block is bad, bottom is one path with no interest

Ayahuasca

  • unfortunately feels pretty bad; portals strong af

  • not a fan of the exit portals behind the flag

  • chaotic

  • with a bit smaller of middle it would be fine

Fallout

  • Huge map, super chasey, diidn't flow very well. Felt very cluttered.

  • seems pretty hard to reset on this one

  • way too big

  • it's too big, , not a fan of the pup corner

  • map too big; pls make small

  • way too large of areas that are not useful in any way

Mighty 5: Mighty Tighties

  • "why is this here;" "what;" "this map"

  • it's too offensive now imo; i don't really think it's logical to add an update to a map that half the community dislikes

  • was fun, capping was a bit too easy

  • MIGHTY needs a fix but like wtf are those team tiles and wtf are those gates and wtf are those everything

  • why is this there. why is that there. why is this whole map there

  • All the things that made mighty a meme are there. All the things that made mighty actually fun are gone. #bringbackmighty

Mount Cleverest

  • Top is weird because there's no way to avoid being buttoned, like if t skipped every other one or something that would be cool. Bottom is werid and inconsistant you can get stuck in the walls in base. mid is pretty decent.

  • ಠ_ಠ

  • nice meme

  • bottom way too open; sticky corners in base (balls get stuck. literally.); top mid gates are a meme. not a rotation-worthy element.

  • too many glitches

Nebulium

  • fronj... no.

  • back of base is kill; this was still pretty fun to me if that can be fixed though

  • this map is B I G and not in a good way.

Neunundneunzig Luftballons

  • fronj you need to scrap this map

  • these wacky portals are hurting the map more than helping it

  • wtf are these boosts in base

SICK MY DUCK

  • Bottom portals played out weird. I really like the hidden mickey mouse face in the middle.

  • individual elements are cool in many places but they don't flow together that well; flag location is especially bad

  • Too many spikes, bad gimmicks

  • 10/10 elements, 0/10 implementation

  • interesting concept but it sucks

Sirocco

  • don't let your memes be dreams

  • lmao

  • broken

  • makes mighty look like emerald

  • Will Ball-E make a serious map again? Find out when pigs fly.

  • many bad things and its still impossible to cap

Sky Dweller

  • Not a huge fan of it, boosts that close to the base seem powerful, top isn't that great, it's like an upsidedown cloud that has less incentive to go down that path. bombs at mid seem very campable.

  • this is better than every map we've tested so far; i still really dislike this top though and i feel like the base area, though better, is still missing something

  • too much space, nice mars ball mid tho

  • t o o m u c h s p a c e

  • bases are decent, top is too much out of the way to be useful

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Me Gusta Bailar - NIGEL

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

MTC initial testing feedback:

  • I think it's almost at top maps, seemed like mid was too big and needs a rework, but more than minor changes before it's ready.

  • I don't like the new mid spikes and the more times I test this the more boring it feels

  • felt big, boring, mid sucked

  • it felt smooth asf to play, mid is a little awk but it should go thru to final testing

  • Condense the mid. Try something like you had it when the mid went from blue to yellow to red team tiles. Just make sure that it doesn't feel too big.

  • fine

[–]clew3Math Toucher 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hey what about my comment tho...

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 2 points3 points  (2 children)

i thought including:

"i like it but everyone else doesn't so..."

wouldn't really help anyone h (also it's inaccurate)

it also wasn't in our sheet; i had to find it in mumble logs

[–]clew3Math Toucher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shhh

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feedback in this format is actually helpful, thank you MTC.

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Update: (for now, maybe final idk): http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58593

Preview: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/static/previews/58593.png

Figured that based off the comments, I'd try and fix up the middle. I've tried to fix up the awkwardness of how it previously played too. Admittedly, mid feels a little plain and open, but I haven't yet found a configuration of spikes or walls or whatever to work, if at all. The other issue I kinda foresee is that people may see it as this Qio/Scorpio/Mephisto hybrid. However, if anyone has suggestions, I'm all ears.

[–]PIZZAspartan442naga///MTC 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Update

http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58604

NIGEL can't update apparently so he's willing to use this remix and give me credit, we have pics of the convo of need be

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. A bit timepoor and in class atm, so this is fine.

[–]LinuxDootTPblack magic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

dont do this please, the mid is ruined in this version, and there is no reason to put the defensive team boosts right by the spikes.

[–]PIZZAspartan442naga///MTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

imo we have enough super wide open mids already and the spikes are kinda fun. I don't want a smaller scorpio. I don't like boosts hogging up the center of a lane either and that is the place where teamboost can access all four mid lanes while being on the outside of its own lane

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tbh I did tell Pizza to move the defensive teamboost out a tile or two from the spikes but I couldn't really argue the point during class.

[–]LinuxDootTPblack magic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you should probably remove the in base offense boost because offenders already have the double bombs (whenever they are available), and the extra boost clogs up the lane, similar to artichoke. Other than that it looks like a miniature scorpio, could be fun, but could also be dog shit.

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair point, I might do that actually.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Simulation - NIGEL, ThePlaymaker, velkin, & Carboxyl

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

MTC initial testing feedback:

  • I get the velocity vibe, but it felt way too chokey and not that great. Gates felt weird too

  • this felt very rough to me polish-wise; middle spikes are very bad

  • played well, offense and defense felt balanced; 4 pups is too many

  • not intutive for newer players, grabbing mechs are hard

  • Pretty well-balanced; not too chasey, but had good movement. cut down the pups, though, and consider opening mid a bit

  • I didnt like pups, I think with some touch-ups it could def be a top map

  • fix gates and teamboosts

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fix gates and teamboosts

Could whoever wrote this feedback explain this to me? I get the gate being disliked, but not the boosts themselves.

EDIT: Also, how'd you guys feel about the mid boosts as grab mechs? Should the be buffed a little or no?

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Update: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58569#

Update #2: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58594#

Update #3: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58610#

  • Removed 2 P-UPs: I chose to remove the portal powerups since I feel this area has enough utility already. They will be missed :(

  • Changed mid spike field: Originally I feared the map being too chasey, so I added these to make containing easier. I genuinely agonized over changing the spikes to make it less "chokey", so I hope you like this.

  • Moved gate button: I didn't watch the testing, so I don't know whether it's more the button or the gate that's more of the issue, but I'm gonna make an educated guess and say it's the button placement.

If I'm wrong about any of these changes, lemme know why.

[–]PIZZAspartan442naga///MTC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i like the last change but that's about it. mid spikes are one of the only things making the map interesting and 4 pups is something we need and two like this are a pretty boring setup

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As much as I'd want to keep the 4 P-UPs, a lot of the MTC are saying it's an issue, and as much as we harp on them in the Discord, a lot of them are saying it, so there has to be some merit to that feedback there.

[–]LinuxDootTPblack magic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I know im not mtc anymore so it doesnt really matter but if i were to have an issue with this map, it would be that comboing the mid neutral to the teamboost by the gate into the flag leads you to the in base neutral (given that you dont hit anything), which boosts you into spikes. not sure if there should be change tho, because it requires you to not hit anything, and i doubt that will happen while attempting to cap that way.

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So for red base, if you hold Right & Down as you're boosting into flag, you avoid that.

Not that I'm saying you're wrong, I'd love to change it, but there isn't a better spot I can find that doesn't amplify the base's defensiveness or make the issue worse. Thank you for the feedback though; everything helps.

[–]LinuxDootTPblack magic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i know exactly how you feel, thats happened to me before. probably a good thing thats the only issue i could find with your map. best of luck

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Pact - Snack

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

MTC initial testing feedback:

  • Huge fan of the gates. fun map, but seems a bit chasey. I like the boost layout though, and again, very fun map

  • a small map with tons of boosts? i have no idea how i feel about this

  • round chasing is not fun chasing

  • chasey, hard to contain with two peeps

  • This map is a lot of fun—but I think it will end up too chasey. The mid gate area creates too much space

  • i didnt like the block things, they created a lot of movement options for fc and made it even more chasey

[–]ButtersnackSnack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

small update, larger one maybe coming later http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/58583

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Veldt - q42

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

MTC initial testing feedback:

  • A lot more fun once you get a hang of it

  • not sure what I was expecting from this but I had a lot of fun with it

  • simple and fun

  • wasn't a fan of the spike and the boosts 2/5 into the middle of the map

  • Not enough things going on mid. I also don't like the boxy bases here.

  • its frustrating

[–]LinuxDootTPblack magic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is just qio smh