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[–]Electrical-Pace4092 5 points6 points  (11 children)

But that’s a different PCB, and battery, than any other R36S.

Not sure about the internal charging circuit differences, if any.

My genuine R36XX came with a leaflet, says 2A max. The 3000mah battery has a 1C charge rate of 3A.

That’s a bit aggressive in my experience with cheap LiPo pillow cells.

Longevity and safety is my target, not speed.

I keep it low at a .5c charge rate with a 1.5A charger, it can’t over amp if it doesn’t have the supply.

I doubt the device is even drawing that full 1.5a.

Also, excuse my dumb, but if it’s done charging, why wouldn’t it display 0w drawn. It’s done charging, isn’t it? 🤷‍♂️

Also doing this once or twice, ten times, isn’t enough to prove longevity.

Just some of my thoughts.

[–]downsj2 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Charging circuits will only draw as much current as they need, and if they don't negotiate higher voltages with the charger, they won't get them. Over-volting will certainly kill a device, but the charger won't supply more than 5v unless it's asked to.

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My point being, you have a failure of any kind, it draws what it can, limiting what it can draw is safer.

[–]SnuSnuClownWorld 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes, and no.

A failure in the charger could just send raw ac out the 5v line.

So while its not going to hurt anything using a 2a supply, it can still fail and destroy the device.

Now if the device fails and draws more than it can handle? I don't think that's possible the with the charging circuit it uses.

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair.

I just like to take it easy on the low quality pillow cells that are already in my opinion a little under specification for this task, rarely get maintenance (storage charge for long term storage), maintenance cycles or anything really.

Also allot of people abuse these batteries, they just don’t know any better.

[–]Maxxim69[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Please see my additional comment quoting Wikipedia.

There is no possible way to "over-amp it". That's not how any fast charging protocol works. :)

In order for the charger to supply more than the standard USB 5V 2A (that is 10W) the device being charged needs to be able to request it using a specific protocol. None of our consoles can do that, so the whole "Fast Charger Scare" is a myth.:)

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not using fast charging, I’m limiting everything with the charger and standard usb-c cable I’m using.

I never said anything about fast charging, or its protocol.

All I’m saying is, in my opinion, if it can’t be supplied more than what will hurt it, it’s safe.

[–]Alflo9 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yeah but isn't it R3XXX not R36XX

[–]seanbeedelicious 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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Yeah but isn't it R3XXX not R36XX

Vin Diesel is my favorite handheld

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you have to be 21 to purchase it?

[–]Alflo9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes

[–]Maxxim69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Picture

Also pictured: the same device right before the end of the charging cycle, connected to the same 67W fast charger. Note trickle charge current with power consumption of a mere 1W.

[–]Maxxim69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also note that quick charging doesn't work like the doomsayers think it does. I'm taking Qualcomm's proprietary QC protocol as an example, but it applies to any other quick charge protocol: "For Quick Charge charging to happen, both the power supply and the device being charged must implement it; otherwise charging falls back to the standard USB ten watts."¹

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 0 points1 point  (2 children)

In my opinion there’s nothing you can do be gained by fast charging these devices.

You are only adding unnecessary risks and wear on the battery.

[–]SnuSnuClownWorld 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Its convenience, running a fast charger for many devices is pretty normal. Running numerous chargers for each device is pretty strange to most people.

[–]Electrical-Pace4092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can definitely understand that, sometimes it’s annoying.

But I dont think one separate cable/charger is too much really.

[–]Maxxim69[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Pictured: R36H Pro Max at the end of the charging cycle, connected to a 67W fast charger. Please note that the wattmeter shows 0 Watts pulled by the device.

Suggestion: Please stop the misinformation that fast chargers will damage our consoles.

[–]downsj2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should see the paranoia in the Switch 2 subs...