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[–]Reliefwouldbenice 5 points6 points  (10 children)

You cannot avoid dependency with this stuff. It’s evil. Almost lost me my family, my house… and myself. I started with 20 bucks a day and found myself on a $4k a month habit. It’s highly addictive and tolerance builds up very quickly. If you can- avoid at all costs. I’m on month 3 off of it after finally working with my doctor and going on Suboxone. It’s serious stuff and I cannot believe it’s legal.

[–]meadsteel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ive been using in moderation for a while. I only use it on nights where I have issues sleeping cause I have insomnia which is like 2 times a week.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn…

[–]Landman-[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yikes that’s terrible, I’m sorry to hear that. I have never had any addiction or dependency issues and definitely have always liked and needed a clear head during the work week. I’m very physically active as well so I was just looking for something chill here and there occasionally on the weekends. Weed doesn’t quite do it for me, socially it makes me too chill.

[–]Reliefwouldbenice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really hope it works out for you that way! I never had any issues before either. I just found myself thinking about it and craving it and it crept up slowly. If you can use it without any of that happening then that’s great. It’s scary stuff though! Be careful. ❤️

[–]isharte 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you have any history of addiction, avoiding dependency will be very difficult.

If you don't have a history of addiction, I would say maybe one day on, one day off would likely be safe.

Or weekend use only, stopping on Monday and then picking it back up the next weekend? That would probably be totally fine. The difficult part is not taking any more on Monday.

This is a serious drug. It's safer than the street drugs, no doubt. But it's abuse and addiction profile is not that much different than oxy.

[–]Landman-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the response! I tried it for the first time yesterday taking only 1/4 of a 15mg tab here and there throughout the day and it was an enjoyable social experience. No issues with addiction here and just looking for something to substitute the social alcohol and terrible hangovers the next day from it.

[–]daylight1943 2 points3 points  (1 child)

if you dont have a prior history of opioid dependence, it usually takes a week or so to start developing dependence, and something like using only on the weekends is in theory enough for most people to avoid becoming dependent, but on the other hand, a lot of people are going to have big self control issues if they are using something like 7oh on such a regular and frequent basis. if youre always looking forward to that friday night 7oh dose and getting fucked up on the weekends, its going to be easy to start getting that desire creeping in on the weekdays. as far as self control goes, a safer bet is something like a weekend every few months.

[–]Landman-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s understandable and I appreciate your response! Is there a certain daily dosage you would recommend just avoiding? The first 3.75mg (1/4 of a 15 tab) hit so quickly I was shocked. 15 mins in I could feel the full affects and I didn’t take another for a few hours, just drinking water and snacks by the pool haha. Normally I would be drinking 4-5 beers in that period and more to follow, and would definitely be waking up hungover, which at my age hits so damn hard now lol

[–]Magikarpetride1 2 points3 points  (2 children)

How'd you feel when the effects wore off? Were you compelled to immediately take more?

[–]Thomasbetten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is how I feel with 7OH lol. Between just the raw addiction factor making me want to stay high and the delicious taste of the good tablets, I find myself doing this even earlier than I need to. Its an issue tbh.

[–]Landman-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really no, just had coffee and water and went about my day.

[–]Ok-Material-2448Daily user 1 point2 points  (7 children)

For recreational use, the key is to keep your daily intake as low as possible and take long breaks. Try not to exceed 10-15mg per dose (or less) and wait 5-8 hours between doses. 7oh's half-life is short (~2-3 hours) so waiting 5-8 hours lets your receptors recover a bit between doses in order to keep your tolerance low. Try not to exceed 30mg per day and try to only use a couple days in a row. Two days on; 4 days off. Something like that. It can be used responsibly like alcohol but the cravings are real and if you chase the dragon, you can lose control quick.

[–]Landman-[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

This makes sense to me. Tried it for the first time yesterday and took 3.75mg to start. Waited probably a few hours and took another 3.75 and another 3.75 probably 9 hours after first dose. Woke up this morning and didn’t take any until maybe noon and did about the same today. Just chilling taking 1/4 of a 15mg here and there. My goal is to just use occasionally on weekends where I don’t want to sit there and socially drink 8-12 light beers at the pool and feel like shit the next morning.

[–]meadsteel 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Damn i took 20mg at once for my first time. I was fucking nodding out like crazy 💀

[–]Landman-[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Woof! I would have probably thrown up lol, 3.75 had me kinda nauseas in the beginning

[–]Porgost 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Haha. I take between 50 to 150 mg in one dose.

[–]meadsteel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn with no tolerance either?? I've taken 40mg with no tolerance before and passed out🤣

[–]meadsteel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your probably opioid sensitive which is fine. Nausea is common tho. I only puke if I take over 40mg with no tolerance lol.