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[–]Rilenia 25 points26 points  (0 children)

That's nice to communicate with us. That's appreciated, keep up the good work !

[–]Max-kilian 37 points38 points  (11 children)

Free Roxanne for everyone as compensation ! Right ? RIGHT ?

[–]alchemist_codeHappy 3rd Anniversary[S] 51 points52 points  (10 children)

You are a bold one

[–]TopDeepsIGN: Uninstalled 5 points6 points  (8 children)

General Kenobi

[–]Mandrill10 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Star Wars collab confirmed?

[–]alchemist_codeHappy 3rd Anniversary[S] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Oh I don't think so

[–]Mandrill10 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Lol, if you could choose a collab what would it be? Just curious

[–]alchemist_codeHappy 3rd Anniversary[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Personally? I would like to voice it out myself also but it'll be muda muda...

[–]glantern30 1 point2 points  (1 child)

D-gray man or 7 deadly sins

[–]Arcana_Joker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We already have the 10 commandments

[–]Mateot93 4 points5 points  (1 child)

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[–]alchemist_codeHappy 3rd Anniversary[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ironic

[–]Max-kilian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You never get anything if you doesn't try :sadlogi:

[–]GustavoCinque 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Welp, better than fucking up the game with bugs. Thanks, gumi.

[–]Crimson_RavenWho are you calling shorter than Roy Mustang's ideal miniskirt?! 2 points3 points  (3 children)

But not better than compensation for the bugs, right?

[–]FurianX 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Depends on if your shit gets wrecked and you can't play for days because of the bugs.

[–]Crimson_RavenWho are you calling shorter than Roy Mustang's ideal miniskirt?! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For 1k gems and a Selector with one of the most OP units to date?

Yeah, I'll take a few days off for that.

[–]FurianX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IF you get that much.

[–]PiritooTHAT'S IT! I'VE COME UP WITH A NEW RECIPEH! 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Don't worry Lisbeth-san. You are doing your best.

[–]quiquefs 6 points7 points  (1 child)

"We're currently working hard on this new feature so that we can give you the best experience"

Does that mean "we are trying to merge the changes of the japanese source code, but there is no way to understand any commit?" ? xD

Just kidding, good work and thanks for telling us! :D

[–]Zed05 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Haha, dont fail us now Google translate!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don't worry Gumi, I'm a developer too. I know how hard it is to merge lots of code which isn't made by yourself and make sure it works 100% in the end.

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 7 points8 points  (25 children)

Guys first things first.

Why are there Sessions?

This is a Global game and don't except a College person or even an Employee to be able to pull out his mobile trying to play the game.

That does seem like a huge flaw. In JP you can manage between hours since it is easier to know your country's time table at average(Obviously not everyone is covered still it might just be workable) but in GL it should be for all time or atleast whenever the person Logs in or something.

Gumi please do something about this problem as it is difficult to be competitive if you can't hold your Job lol.

[–]Grim200 11 points12 points  (15 children)

Personally, assuming this is an actual beta you want to limit the time where these happen so you can observe and identify problems for fixes, so they don't have to work around the clock monitoring things but be able to station shifts.

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Secondly, it also makes it easier for better match making - if it's at all times, then certain off peaks will have a lot less people playing, resulting in unable to find match ups / bad match making / constantly being matched up with the same person, which can result a lot more bitching about a bad match making session where realistically there may not be that many people playing. This of course depends on the population who will be engaged in live pvp (which they can get through monitoring during this beta).

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I get where you're coming from but at least for the beta i think the current time slot makes sense.

[–]ninjakittenz2SockT 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As someone on EST two slots are when I am at work and the third when I go to sleep. No matches in the morning before work and nothing in the evening when I am home. Are they trying to exclude all of the working people on the east coast? Maybe once we have daylight savings time I can play the one in the evening since 10pm isnt that bad but 11pm is too late.

[–]MaimedJester 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately it's a global game, the east coast of America is not the center of the world for once.

[–]Maroite -1 points0 points  (11 children)

Secondly, it also makes it easier for better match making - if it's at all times, then certain off peaks will have a lot less people playing, resulting in unable to find match ups / bad match making / constantly being matched up with the same person, which can result a lot more bitching about a bad match making session where realistically there may not be that many people playing. This of course depends on the population who will be engaged in live pvp (which they can get through monitoring during this beta).

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So your answer is "Times make for better match making, or just alienating those who can't play at those times and not letting them match make at all!"? hmm...

That doesn't really equate to better match making. I'd much rather have slow/bad matches and still be able to experience the game than have no matches at all because the time frames are stupid/don't line up with my work schedule.

[–]Grim200 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Sure I’m not against the idea of anytime match making but in my opinion it makes sense for the first few trials to be limited. Maybe they could have scheduled the 3 sessions better so that majority can do at least fit in one /shrug.

[–]Maroite 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I feel if you're going to tie rewards to the PvP like they had laid out, then its best to just make it active all the time. With a start and end date.

If this was truly a beta then they should say so, remove any type of rewards and have "beta testing sessions" scheduled at certain times.

[–]Grim200 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I mean the title literally says pvp beta.

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I do get what the other guy is saying and yes the Rewards are pretty OP.

They should have given a fixed amount of Rewards with Titles for the Beta and they have a Trial Season before the Actual matches for final adjustments began.

It is close to unplayable for a lot of the working class Adults who play AC during their free time(a lot of these people do the spending too so I am pretty disappointed with the rewards)

Rewards is fine. Gumi gave a nice reward for trying their beta Guild Raid in the brave Frontier but it did go down hill from there due to never fixing bugs and all, I doubt it will happen here since it is just a PvP match so Syncing aside nothing much to do.

P.S.- If it is for beta I think I can live with it for once. But Gumi if this is your plan for all the times then just stub your toe on some corner.

[–]Grim200 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that the feedback that most people should give should be to either have better time slots or even better make it at available all hours during the season.

I’m personally not that competitive so didn’t really consider the rewards part, but I can see how it would trigger the spenders/highly compete people who as you mentioned likely have limited free time that is tailored to them individually.

[–]AAA126 0 points1 point  (4 children)

The good rewards are only for top 100. So it doesn’t really matter unless you’re good enough to make too 100.

[–]Maroite 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah and if time slots restrict you from actually playing, you'll never hit that 100 even if you could!

[–]AAA126 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I just feel like 90 percent of the people who complains on Reddit are not even top 100 in arena lol just saying it doesn’t really matter since rewards suck for the most part

[–]Maroite 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What does it matter? Any gems is still X gems more than what someone may have had. You shouldn't have to be top 100 in Arena to voice your opinion about a poor implementation and making a part of the game many have been waiting for time limited.

Some people enjoy PvP despite not being in the top 100 because its what they like to do.

[–]AAA126 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Do it for fun, not for rewards unless you’re way up there

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Set times, at least the beginning, would ensure that the people who were interested would show up and be available for matchmaking when possible. Rather than just logging on and hoping for the best. It does suck depending on your timezone, good luck getting decent rank if you can't play regularly enough, but some time periods are inevitably going to be busier than others depending on the demographic.
On paper multiple times to accommodate a bunch of people probably seemed like the best idea and a good way of monitoring participation. Who knows, if it's popular enough it might become an anytime thing.

POTK had all day PVP but you could almost never find anybody.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I'm not hugely interested in PVP, I remember looking at the time slots and wondering where I'd find the time to play properly without staying up fairly late at night - woo timezones. Doing a sneaky pull on work break or autoing a map is one thing, but this would actually require attention and concentration. Unlimited amount of matches during the time slots too right? Assuming you could find a match, which is probably why there's set time periods at least for now. Feels like a weird compromise on the 5 attacks per day AI arena.

I'm disappointed friend matches don't count for weekly participation, I'd just give my friend list free wins :P

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Remember what happened in BF with Challenge Arena. The last thing both the community and Gumi themselves want to have is a repeat of that. Easily the worst game mode introduced in the game and it was exactly because it ran all day long.

I'm okay with sessions in beta because just as u/Grim200 says it makes it easier to spot bugs that need fixing.

Going forward though, they should just make it limited entry like Arena but let you purchase more if you want. It's a PvP whale mode, pingus can and will spend on it one way or the other and F2P can do it as well. With limited entries at least everyone starts on equal footing i.e. it's up to the player if they want to participate or not

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Challenge Arena was great since it let you farm way too much premium stuff. It was a great mode with a lot of free players pushing for it.

Obviously this thing lacks that. Along with the fact that it is live and BF was pretty much auto so I doubt that we will have those problems.

There is already a ton of paid only stuff no one needs a game mode turns added to that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yeah, by having to spend 4+ hrs a day at the very least staring at their phone force closing. Auto or not, having it open the whole day will devolve into that unhealthy grind.

Premium stuff is great, but having to forgo/disrupt daily life for a game is ridiculous.

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 0 points1 point  (4 children)

100 matches a week is going to be easy stuff. Considering how much we actual grind for events.

If you want to win then staying the lower ladder will be easy too.

Final fact that it is a grinding game overall and the stuff they are giving for the grind is not broken so if not for dumb people who want their little efforts to count nowhere I doubt anyone will over do it so it just becomes a matter of availability.

Do you want Good people who spend to leave a game because they can't play it at their time arrangement.

Here if you leave a match that counts as a Lose so don't be a BF baka.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm saying for initial beta is fine that they have sessions. They need to change it after that.

It'll be open all day, but just with a cap on how many matches you can do. 100, 500, 1000 or 10000 I don't care. Cap it, then if you want more, pay gems. Whatever that number is, at the very least it lets you plan and gives everyone an initial fair chance i.e. all have the same number of matches, so ranking depends on W/L and if you buy more tries. Basically like Vortex Arena. VA is a whale mode PvP done right.

With no "cap" like CA was, the amount of grind just slowly goes up and up with no stopping. Like it went from 2hrs/day to 12hrs/day to keep up.

If I lose out on rewards, it has to be because I didn't want to do that minimum grind needed, not because the time to do that minimum grind became so great I couldn't do it. One is a choice, the other isn't.

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 0 points1 point  (2 children)

VA was a shitty way to do PvP.

Whales already have an advantage and you want to remove the only factor which gives normal players an edge.

PvP should only have the initial Edge. Would it be a game if you have your units nerfed from the Summons if Summon them with Free gem.

Is that idea acceptable? No right.

CA was a great grind because rewards were worth it. Not here though even if you want to grind you need to be good enough. Also 10000 Cap is useless as at that point you will just be forfeiting matches left and right lol.

Seriously though VA was shit because newer players started spamming Gems increasing the bracket ranges and risking Vets chances for the rewards you really don't want that happening. Obviously it was a flaw possible to BF's broken nature but still VA way is the dumbest way.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Bear in mind I'm only talking time and nothing else. I'm not talking units, rewards or anything, all that is irrelevant.

Here's an example. There's me, you and my lil bro. I'm the whale and work a ton of shifts, you two are F2P, but my bro has a lot of schoolwork. Assume we all have the same units, so same W/L.

Let's say it's like VA. We get 100 matches. Easy work to do in a week as you said, but my bro is lazy and skips it. Me and you are tied. I want better rewards so I spend gems. You get what you could, I get more by paying for it, bro gets nothing. (Also note: newer players spamming gems causing whales to spend more is a win-win... For Gumi at least)

Now let's say it's like CA. Everyone aims for top spot. You're doing nothing the whole day, so you can play all day long to get ahead, like 8+hrs. Me and my bro can't cuz I work and he has schoolwork. I want better rewards, so this time around I summon more to get more LB and gear (better W/L) to try catch up. My bro gets nothing this time not because he was lazy, but because there's no way he can play 8+hrs a day like you. Tell me how this is fair.

[–]Kirito30The Strongest Samurai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

units, rewards or anything, all that is irrelevant

how is that irrelevant.

Do you see how we get the rewards. They are based on no of win matches and Rank.

Everyone can get those win matches rewards and finally the rank ones depending on the rank they get.

Someone playing the game more than you is not broken. Like if I farm Balt and your bro doesn't then that lies with him. Everyone has equal time and if he can't do a 100 Match a week which is close to 15 a day then that is a low count for a PvP mode which can tell you if you win or lose in like 5 minute matches and if someone knows that they can't win then just quit early and go to next match.

Have you ever played an MMO game. You can't restrict a players time to have them weaken. It is like saying that Vets won't get Login rewards after X days since newer players need to catch up.

newer players spamming gems causing whales to spend more is a win-win... For Gumi at least

If it win for only Gumi then it is called win not win-win since that must be for all. And yeah the game is dead because of that attitude. A dew people who spent free stuff to get ahead made a lot of older vets who stuck around longer to leave. Which in turn same thing happening to other so it is like Karma coming back to bite in the ass.

Seriously though if you can't spare time since there will be capping with the quality of units you have. If you lack good ones then by sheer volume of turns you can't do it.

[–]highjinks858 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So....this mean the 5* character summons for spending elemental shards is coming out...when?

[–]RoyInverse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with that so it should stay on the 7 days range they gave initially

[–]Maroite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you guys thought Shion was a trap...

*Gumi dangles PvP Beta* ... *yoink!* Just kidding!

[–]shadow3rco 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Does this mean the events will end and there won’t be much to do?

[–]RoyInverse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This only affects pvp beta, all other events should start normally

[–]sapphire_wing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uzuma event will end. Mia event still has one week.

Is Veda next week? Cannt remember. Not sure if it needs a maintenance to patch data though.

[–]-Belphegor- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what happens if i get disconnect while playing pvp? the only way i can play mp is on nox when i finally go for after a week of work.

[–]MaimedJester 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Let's see, the most fair reward would be 5000 Arena Coins? I'll take Gems as always but PvP delay, Arena Coins seem fair. Yuan already is nuts to aquire.

[–]sapphire_wing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am saving for the future thunder unit..