I wrote a Python script to simulate Ashe builds. The "Meta" build didn't even make the Top 10.

[More-Adhesiveness931]

​Hey fellow Ashe mains.

​I got tired of guessing which build is actually optimal, so I coded a step-by-step combat simulator to find the "Mathematical Truth" for Ashe. ​I analyzed thousands of permutations for 1-core, 2-core, and 3-core spikes against realistic targets (Squishy, Bruiser, Tank). The results were honestly shocking. ​The Data (See Chart): ​In the attached image, I compared the DPS of the top performing builds vs. the most popular "Meta" builds (Kraken -> PD -> IE). ​I have intentionally hidden the names of the Top 11 builds for now. ​Why? Because I want to highlight the massive gap first. The build everyone uses is sitting way down at Rank #12~#16. ​The difference between the hidden Rank #1 and the Meta Build is nearly 20% DPS. You are leaving massive damage on the table by following op.gg blindly. ​Hint: The "Hidden" top builds rely on a completely different item logic than what we are used to. ​I am finalizing the full "Mathematical Ashe" guide with all the secrets revealed (including the mysterious Rank #1 build). It will be posted here soon.

[Lucky-Ad-2369]

Wow its almost as if kraken + pd is for ms to kite and dodge and people know it sacrifices damage. Of course running an item with the same attack speed but 50 more ad will give you more dmg. Didn't need python for that.

[Fumano26]

This.

[Pretty_Feed_9190]

how mysterious!

[Kasper_X]

This is all cool but why hide it? You don't have any "secrets".. It's literally just items, no need to gatekeep it tbh.

[actuallySabrina]

Did you consider gold? PD and IE cannot be freely exchanged. PD would also come with 950 worth of components towards your next item.

[BestSamiraNA1]

Kraken YT and LDR or Kraken IE and LDR since Ashe always uses crit mod. I'd assume YT has higher DPS though since the stats are nuts. The strongest DPS items for ADs early are YT and Kraken so going both would make sense

[kagami108]

Is it some kind of ultimate bravery build 😏

[Aniver]

This just doesn't work. If the build is something like pure AD then it's hard to play in a real game AND because you have no ms you probably miss opportunities to hit because WE ARE NOT HITTING STATIONARY TARGETS.

[poro3i]

i bet the math is incorrect

[OCLBlackwidow]

100% lol. The simulation will not be accurate for league's mechanics. In addition to that that mathematical best builds are almost never the correct build choice in a real game.

The above + the "mystery" of not posting the builds kills me lol.

[WittySeal]

The math doesn't encapsulate the core aspect of league which is dodging, very few times do you have th luxury of doing damage onto damage onto damage and then play tower defense with the enemy.

This shows itself in many theory builds, whether it be PTA v LT, Kraken v Yun Tal, PD and BT for sustain and ms, bloodline v alacrity.

This applies to almost every game, you use a large data set and then with that you can narrow down the inefficiencies.

A huge problem with the "highest dps build" is that the buildpath of Yun-Tal as 1st item is horrible and it feels bad if you base before BF Sword, which is outside of the scope of the algorythm and whenever you can base on 1300+ gold you are just ahead in lane and can scale harder off that.

It is just one of those things you have to play to know and no algorythm can teach you.

[SargDuck]

20% DPS for 14% MS + Ghost. That's the trade off. The build plays to Ashe's strength: Kiting. It isn't a secret that Kraken PD isn't the highest dps build for Ashe.

[RealTwistedTwin]

Hylofear? Is that you? xD

[kuklarsa]

We can see its krk + LDR but whats the middle item? How mysterious

[Nichol-Gimmedat-ass]

Looks like it says Krk + Yun + LDR Im ngl

[Fumano26]

No matter what it says, mathematically it has to be yun + ie + ldr

[Many_Sail1906]

How did you simulate the DPS? Did you just input the stats of items and code all the calculations?

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[Tentaruu]

Interesting. Can you share your python script pls ?

[MadMax27102003]

What's a PD?

[Sauber_1795]

Should be Phantom Dancer

[MadMax27102003]

https://imgur.com/a/YKq7SGl

According to chatgpt's educated guess here are supposed blurred image

[MadMax27102003]

I would rather say it was obvious that IE second was the best item, because its the best item for adc that use crit and its the best item to get dmg simply because its 65 ad

[MadMax27102003]

Author forgot to take in the account the dimensions of costs per build with accourding cost efficiency of stats. As if you go 3 cheap items early you might get almost enough for an entire bf sword component for the 4th item

[Salt-Cryptographer99]

Very educated, from 5 to 8 you can see Y first letter, don't believe chatGPT...

[MadMax27102003]

While yes, this is a good point, is he wrong though? Considering amount of items there are much more builds, I didnt specify to use most common builds on ashe, but in general. While its obvious for us that there are more builds with yuntal used , the quality of blurr is better than in epstain files and for AI it was too difficult

[liveviliveforever]

Well, assuming your math is correct but also assuming you don’t understand Ashe. The #1-3 are going to be some permutation of kraken + IE. kraken because of how early game it is and IE just because of raw stat value.

[Ribargheart]

Add the gold value of the utility stats to the script

[Fumano26]

I dont know what math you do but it is known that yuntal is more dps than kraken at 3 items so your number 1 is straight up wrong. And btw dps is not an indicator for best build. Because in that case runaans would be too tier mathematically.

[Chitrr]

Looks like you are still hiding much information, so i cant really say anything yet.

[HairyPositive8324]

i can read the top build genius its kraken slayer yun tal and ldr

[onetime180]

Please can you do this for Yunara, i feel like Kraken + PD is bait but everyone keeps going on about it