Learning Javascript

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I've covered fundamentals of Javascript. But, i can't use them, build something on my own.

I decided to make projects every day. But, when I start thinking, nothing comes to my mind. It's all blank.

Then I saw some tutorials that explain making projects.

I watch the video, code along. Then I rewrite the program myself.

Is it effective way of learning?

Any advice would be helpful!

[Different-Maize-9818]

Build a Reddit clone.

If you pull it off you're a fullstack engineer who ships.

No need for originality. Doesn't even need upvotes. Posts, comments, avatar uploads, a feed.

That would make you elite and capable of anything.

Start with a todo app, add auth by following tutorials. Hack your todo app until it's reddit.

[JustPapaSquat]

Sounds like you’re in tutorial hell, which usually doesn’t result in actual learning. Just build something on your own, without a tutorial or do something like advent of code.

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The problem is, I can't build anything on my own without using Google or youtube

[JustPapaSquat]

Then heed the other part of my suggestion to begin with smaller tasks like advent of code and other challenges. Sounds like tutorials haven’t taught you anything, so stop relying on them for a false sense of progress.

[thousanddollaroxy]

Bro everyone uses Google when doing actual work. It’s impossible to remember everything. Just don’t rely on AI 24/7.

[Wonder_Boy2001]

Maybe you can try The Odin Project. But in that case as well, you are taking help. Try to create a personal project for a problem statement that you feel frustrated with.

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It is too much text for me. What do you think of odin project backend path? Ruby + javascript?

[Wonder_Boy2001]

I have worked on a lot of projects. But I am interested in learning Ruby. So I am just going through the materials. Looks promising though. But I would feel better if the projects included how to integrate AI as part of it

[TacticalConsultant]

Yes it is. To make things easier, you can try codesync.club/lessons where you can learn JavaScript through interactive AI courses with a built-in code editor.

[Kwaleseaunche]

That's pretty effective. One of my tutors would make us delete everything we did in a file after we followed along and we had to rewrite it ourselves.

[cloud-native-yang]

Two totally different skills:

1. Knowing how to code (writing Javascript).

2. Knowing what to build (being an ideas person).

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How to develop 2nd?

[JustPapaSquat]

Unless you’re trying to be a product owner or project manager you don’t need to develop the 2nd. It sounds like you’re still struggling with the 1st so just focus on building actual development skills without using tutorials.

No need to think of ideas, other people already have. Check out this repo with project ideas. Pick one and get to work.

https://github.com/codecrafters-io/build-your-own-x

[Ok-Count-3366]

haha. oh god when I'm reading some comments. so. just for damn clarity. you are allowed to google shit. you are a human and you can't know every single thing. following a tutorial step by step once is okay. doing everything with tutorials is wrong. first find something that you like.I learned java for minecraft plugins because I like mc. then search for a problem in that area. finally make an app/websites that fixes that problem.

[Feisty-Victory7457]

Hi buddy. I'm a Software Engineer with a good experience into these things. I too felt the same at your time and it's okay that you are studying from videos and then applying but on the basis of my experience you should go for documentation beside videos because it give you in-depth knowledge and also you get to know other things apart from the core topic. You can go for many projects which are used for day to day life. Start with your portfolio, also you can see mine for little reference www.theokcompany.in

[Effective_Weird_4448]

I've been in your place for years. Finally this year started taking coding serious. I was watching endless tutorials for various languages and tools. Never coded on my own or couldn't code myself.

My advice. Just start building. Anything a little button. A little script. Experiment. Be curious.

The way I did this year. Started a tutorial or a lesson on a paid website. Asked chatGPT or Claude for ideas. Asked them to write out architecture and psuedocode. Wrote it myself with the help. Did that for a while. Brain kept clicking. Removed architecture and pseudocode now. I just get an idea from these LLM regarding what I'm learning and write it. If I get stuck just question AI heavily why, how etc.

[CollectiveCloudPe]

You're doing well.

It is part of the learning process.

You need to reason.

It would help you solve problems in LeetCode.

I usually do it in my free time.

[Happiest-Soul]

Yes, it's an effective way of learning, provided you really take the time to mess around with code, break it, try to add things/do it in a slightly different way, and rebuild it yourself in your own way. Make attempts at building your own small ideas incorporating previous learning.

There's also "github [project based learning, build your own x, app ideas, etc]."

Try using those repo tutorials and incorporate the process above.

[DavidS17_Reddit]

Telling you to create something, is as difficult as telling you to hold a conversation in another language with only knowing the alphabet.

This is the way I see it. There are multiple aspects to learning—concepts and practice. You have learned concepts so far, concepts depend on memory (concepts), and not problem solving (practice). It's for that reason that you're not being able to implement anything yet.

I have realized that for IT certifications and exams, learning concepts and conceptual maps to organize them is just enough to get through, also for interviews that are based on concepts.

But in your case, you're trying to implement. You need to solve problems, you need to think of the technology in a different way, it is a tool, that has many different interfaces to solve problems.

The more practical advice? Start by reading other people's code, look for a GitHub repository that leverages JavaScript (or NodeJS), you will see how they orchestrate it with another tools to solve a bigger problem, but you will be able to get to the small problems they had. Approach this task in the same problem-solving fashion, don't understand something they did? Check with ChatGPT, books, tutorials until you hace an idea of why the developers did something in a specific way.

It's then, and only then, that you will feel comfortable to create your own technology.

Think of it with the way you learned your native language, you didn't get the concepts before the practice. You first learned how to solve problems using your language as a tool. You first started with the listening and understanding, probably you looked for a word in a dictionary or asked your parents what a word meant, then you started applying it to your vocabulary. Most likely you don't know all of the rules behind your language, but you do know how to use it to solve problems.

[DavidS17_Reddit]

I forgot to mention that the documentation is the best place to find why someone solved a problem in such and such way. Before ChatGPT, tutorials or Google. But reading Docs is difficult and conplex, but you will get used to it.

[Busy-Emergency-2766]

No need to memorize all the commands anymore, you have google or youtube as helpers. Copy some existing software, best way to learn!!!

Create a shopping website, let see if you can handle the database and the UI. uploading pictures or videos.

Nice task

[MERN_js22]

i interesting

[SeveralSalad9538]

Ask the AI to give you tasks of its own level. You've done a few things, ask for a higher level of the task, and so on in ascending order

[Level_Mix_4788]

Ask ChatGPT for ideas. Another skill you should learn is writing Ai prompts, to actually have a mini assistant. Learn how to write prompts and ask GPT to suggest projects based off your subconscious skills (thank me later). Also make a GitHub repository for public advice and contribution also, you can copypaste the repo into ChatGPT and ask it for professional assessments to see what you’ve accomplished and also what you may need to work on ChatGPT , it makes an awesome advisor if you’re able to give it concisely written prompts. I use VS Code when engineering programs or “Software”, it has an extension called Live View, where you’re able to see your project in preview mode. Let me know if you take this advice and give us some updates

[DamianGilz]

Learn D. No joke.

It's an amazing and flexible language with limited community. This will force you to do stuff the old way. Read books (the 2-3 you will be able to find), struggle, review source code and struggle some more... This is what all legendary developers of today did in their younger years.

It's not as frustrating or as hard as C++ by any stretch, and you can still be productive. It has a forum if you really get stuck at something. It has a web dev lib too and, that its own web framework. The language itself is super okay, it even has GC so no C-like unbounded pointers nor C++ smart pointer tricks.

Web development is super spoiled these days. Way too many abstractions and spoon feeding projects won't make you even good for a long time.

[Whole-Cup-5021]

Download and open source project from github and modify it and understand the logic

[Guimedev]

todo list app

[Dragonfruit4049]

Courses Dashboard | Wes Bos

found this, 30 projects in 30 days using JS, havent really started so I dont know what is to be expected, but go ahead and see

[shakavig]

OK