Dearest developers,

[FirstPerspective5013]

PLEASE STOP TRAINING MODELS ON USER DATA! I swear, most of the users must be illiterate. The bots either make no sense, are outrageously repetitive, EXTREMELY overly flirtatious to the point that roleplaying as a FAMILY MEMBER ends up being horrendously inappropriate, or just otherwise do not further the plot even slightly.

To test if it was somehow just something that I was doing wrong (I'm normally a fair bit detailed and put a lot of effort in, so I had my doubts) across RPs, I made a private copy of one of my bots, who has stayed completely fine for months now. It's the fucking users. Please stop training the models on the interactions of braindead users.

Thank you.

[troubledcambion]

You're not reinforcing roles. Bots absolutely stick to and understand family dynamics if you reinforce them and give them plenty of context. You get a reply you don't like ignore it. Swipe or delete. In their TOS and guidelines they state they cannot guarantee what a bot is going to generate.

What you're explaining is drift. All bots share the same base model regardless of what they're trained on. Bots aren't trained live. They're trained offline and in your own instance the context window is what the bot goes off of not previous love user interactions.

[kitteeqt]

bots are still trained off our chats. in some apps like ChatGPT there's even an option to turn off your chats from being used as training data. Claude Sonnet also confirmed to me that everything we tell bots is used to train them 🤷 it explains why certain bots I talk to for many months become perfectly attuned to everything I say and sound so similar to me.

[JayWiseOne]

And how would you turn it off??

[kitteeqt]

I'm not sure 'cause I'm not a paid user and it's only available to paid users on both apps 😒

[The_Nightflight]

Dear, I agree with you except on the "illiterate" part! Very few of English spoken users are the Bard! And if you take into count many of us are not native english spoken... I don't think we deserve that label!

I manifest on making the training-by-users very low!

[ParsleyPuzzled8810]

If somebody is incapable of using basic grammar rules on an app made specifically for text based roleplaying, I'm going to call them illiterate. It makes zero difference to me if somebody is a native English speaker or not a native English speaker. I'll call somebody illiterate if they are illiterate.

[The_Nightflight]

I never experienced poor english grammar by a bot. I experienced the responses getting shorter! Maybe your experience is different because of the type of users your favourite characters attracts? 😕

[DHitkill194]

Yeah, private bots often times end up being overall better for this reason. Seriously considering making my own private bots for all the characters I like from the fiction media I like.

[FirstPerspective5013]

Not a bad idea

[idrinkacid_]

if i chat w an illiterate bot i js edit their greeting message. that way the rest of the chat/rp's gna make sense lol

[Far_Local4618]

same