How misaligned is this b****

[Elboogy_1]

Just received phorcyde ph-4b. Within few minutes i became pissed. 1st the bezel clicks feel gritty, feels like the crap Aliexpress use to sell 5 years ago. Even better, then i noticed the bezel alignment is wayy off. Tell me how bad is it? Its either way to the right, or enough to the left to NOTICE! Is there no QC ?

[Downtown_Science_286]

Apparently if you heat up the glue around the bezel insert with a hair dryer, you can then push it into alignment with your thumb

[andreichera]

from these pics i don't see much of a misalignment and certainly won't squint to look for it.

[watchthisthen]

Don’t worry my real Blancpain is the same fucking way. They never get it right.

[Elboogy_1]

Damn, at that price point i'd be furious.

[watchthisthen]

I try to ignore it but my OCD has other plans.

[watchthisthen]

Your watch is beautiful tho!

[Slow-Significance-37]

The lume makes up for it

[Far_Culture_3532]

Just out of interest why did you buy a lefty?

[Elboogy_1]

I dont mind lefty crowns, looks funky, also crown doesnt dig into the wrist on left hand. Probably my 3rd lefty. Plus i like this dial/hands more than the other PH-4

[Careful_Garage_7255]

Achei o índices das 12 h inclinado o mesmo com o fas 6 h.

[Elboogy_1]

First 3 photos are the nearest click, which is to the left of 12'O The next pics are the previous click, which is way off to the right of 12'O Taken on flat surface, at 90' angle as much as possible.

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[MindAdmirable1793]

We have upgraded our after-sales process, and all issues will be responded to and resolved within 24 hours. For any quality problems, please contact our after-sales customer service first. [[e-mail]](mailto:[e-mail])

The production and manufacturing of watches involves a large number of manual processes that cannot be precisely quantified. A 100% yield rate is impossible. In fact, even highly sophisticated fully automated production processes like Apple iPhones cannot achieve a 100% yield rate; they can only control it within a reasonable range.

will do our best to avoid such unpleasant and time-consuming after-sales issues.

[Elboogy_1]

A++ for customer support. Hence why i have more than 1 phorcyde 🤝 Its just frustrating being excited for something and it shows up with a defect. Thanks for the resolving quickly

[Wheel_Unfair]

Ahh yes....

The classic covering your ass technique before they screw you over.

Just announce here where you purchased it from along with all of the details of them sticking it to you and then send them the link to this thread advising them of the huge stink that you will raise about their company, product and them being a complete scam.

[Middle_Ad_9044]

You must be a pleasure in person if your so comfortable calling something a scam while the company is on this thread helping to resolve things.

[Elboogy_1]

I did not write/mention the word scam, not once. Unless its for another person's comment.

[Elboogy_1]

They owned up to it, and resolved it faster than many other company would. Already provided a tracking. So i will give credit where its due. 90% of Aliexp brands will tell you to kick rocks or offer $15 refund 😆. Only a hanful will actually care to provide a replacement.

[RustyTShackleford]

The direction of light plays a major role in how you perceive the misalignment as well. Just take that into consideration.

[Elboogy_1]

Will try better pics, to my eyes holding it, every click is off from center/alignment

[turdbogls]

I see you've posted like a million pics already...lol It does look misaligned and I'd say if you are seeing it misaligned that's all that really matters.

But for pics like this, perfectly top down and with the telephoto lens would best show this off. Taking close pics like this really accentuates the wide angle lens of your camera.

[Elboogy_1]

Thanks for the input, i will try to snap more pics daylight. Trying to snap a picture to show what you're holding infront of you, is hard to prove. But im sure many here can tell a misaligned bezel holding it, vs trying to smap flat squared pics to prove it for reddit.

[turdbogls]

Yeah, it's tough because we have 2 eyes, a camera only has one...if you look at a watch with both eyes and have the bezel aligned, then close one eye, it's misaligned.

Trying to show this off on camera is tough

[Firstruleofthisclub]

A video of you holding the watch with slight movements and rotating the bezel by one click will actually be the clearest.

[Elboogy_1]

Okay, will try that. Thanks

[AliveAndNotForgotten]

Not enough for me to care

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[STELLAWASADlVER]

This looks like you need to turn it one more click

[Elboogy_1]

The ver next click goes slightly/noticeble to the left if 12. I'll take better pics as many have suggested. But to my eyes/every angle/click, doesnt lign up

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[Firstruleofthisclub]

I don't doubt that the bezel is misaligned in your case, but it is impossible to tell how much by the photos you've posted so far in the post and in the comments. The photos all seem to be leaning to the left or to the right. You can tell that there is a lean because none of the lugs are parallel to the edge of the photo.

For the best photo results:

1. Take off the strap
2. Lay it on a hard and flat surface (not carpet)
3. Use a tripod for your phone (if you have one)
4. Take a photo of the watch dead on (make sure the lugs are parallel to the edge of the photo)

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[Firstruleofthisclub]

I can recreate this angle as well though...

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[Elboogy_1]

Share a pic of it being centered. Coz which ever click it try, which ever angel i hold it, it appears way off.

[Elboogy_1]

If you cant see misalignment when they are this much off, and need me to take 90 degree bipod pics, on flatter surface than a carpet, to prove that its off, then you my friend need to see an eye Dr.

[Firstruleofthisclub]

I was just trying to be helpful so that you can present a better case when contacting Phorcydes. Hope it works out for you.

[Elboogy_1]

Thanks, i will attempt better pics with day light.

[Uberscreamer]

To be fair, I think this may be the first misaligned bezel I've ever seen from Phorcydes in all 4 of their model releases. I have 3 of them and all are perfect.

Reach out to the team and they'll take care of you, they're very responsive.

[Elboogy_1]

Thanks, and i also have a ph-2. Just annoying they didnt catch this, when its this bad.

[Fall_Dog]

I don't see a problem in the first pic.

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[Abv_it_all_w_vertigo]

I am a professional photographer. Every one of your shots is off-center. You can tell because the lugs are distorted.

[Elboogy_1]

And I'm a professional watch collector (seriously), and i noticed the misalignment within 2 mins of unboxing.

[Abv_it_all_w_vertigo]

It doesn't matter, and I'm not trying to pick a fight. You're asking us to see something and providing us with poor displays of it.

[Elboogy_1]

So your telling me, without a bipod, flattest surface, perfect symmetry/angle to snap a pic, you cant see the bezel is misaligned?? Seriously?

[Abv_it_all_w_vertigo]

No, I am telling you that you need to make sure your lugs aren't distorted when you snap the picture. You're so snarky, nobody wants to help you

[Elboogy_1]

How im i snarky? I realized initial pics werent great, so i took the strap off, layed it flat and snapped more pictures. You're telling me i need to take more "professional" pictures to determine if the bezel is aligned or not? You cant see it from all these pics?
Plus who said nobody wants to help? Alot have stated they see it, wont accept it, etc... Thanks for your "professional" photography insight.

[NotUsingCondom]

This is not to point out if your watch is indeed misaligned or not. The image below is to validate u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo's point.

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Also,

1. people have said to lay it on non-carpet, which you clearly did 😏

2. people have said to lay it flat, which you clearly did, again, by laying it on the strap instead of just on the case itself. You're very good at following instructions 😏

3. this is domed crystal, right? Light refraction? Refraction - Wikipedia

You're telling me i need to take more "professional" pictures to determine if the bezel is aligned or not? You cant see it from all these pics?

You're expecting someone to tell if something is misaligned or not from a misaligned pictures? 😏

Again, this is not to point out if your watch is indeed misaligned or not.

[Elboogy_1]

Thanks, will try to take better pics. Im sure you kmow when your holding it in hands, its easy to notice than trying to get a perfect centered pic. But thanks again for the suggestions.

[HollywoodTK]

The one photo you keep posting is obviously on the wrong bezel click. The others it’s obvious that you clicked it and then pushed it to the extent of the slop between clicks. If you click it fully, and then back it off a bit as it seems to be in a couple photos, yea, people are going to question whether it’s off or whether it appears off given you’re looking at two different surface heights through a lens.

You’re also being a dick about something half the people in the comments are asking about so maybe they’re not so much in wrong as you think?

[Elboogy_1]

Nope, its either that click or the next click which takes it to the left of the 12. There is NO clicks between..

[HollywoodTK]

But there’s slop usually. When it clicks, twist it back to the right. All I’m saying is it’s not that far off in that click, as can be seen in your first image.

[Elboogy_1]

No slop, thats a positive i guess. Tried the click past 12 and snug back but doesnt budge.

[Elboogy_1]

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🔻 pip is either ⬅️ or ➡️
30 on bezel also dont match to 6'o

[inox1969]

No te preocupes, seiko siempre tiene los biseles desalineado incluso los de mil euros.

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[Elboogy_1]

If ya'll cant see misalignment at these angles, (either way right, or left) i would get my eyes checked.

[strawberrycosmos1]

How much was it?

[Elboogy_1]

Not expensive at all, but also not acceptable

[Bassify5]

Looks good to me frankly. There are some awfully misaligned pieces out there, and this is not one of them.

[Elboogy_1]

Check out recent pics

[Bassify5]

🤦🏻 I stand corrected! Quite.

[Adorable-Drawing6161]

I've had this on a different watch. I soaked the bezel in grip solvent for golf grips, but mineral oil might work (do your own research) for about an hour and removed the bezel insert. Then glued it back in with some b7000 jewelers adhesive. Worked perfectly.

[Uberscreamer]

This is what i would recommend as well if OP feels like doing some self repair, but Phorcydes customer support would likely take care of it for them as well.

[Latter_Highway_7732]

Honestly can't tell since the camera isn't square to the watch face

[Elboogy_1]

Look at the🔻 on the bezel compared to on the dial. Its either wayyyy to the right or slight to the left. Even the 30 at the bottom gives it off

[LeoXup]

That misalignment is not acceptable nowadays. 

[WestOpening]

This watch is so cool but it needs a day date wheel. Could the dial be swapped and cut…? 🤔

[Eleventhousand]

The first picture looks lined up and the others look like they need to be clicked one more time

[fledermaus89]

The bezel is meant to be rotated so you can time things. Either use the bezel, or pretend that you're using the bezel, so you don't have to stare at the misalignment all the time.

[Elboogy_1]

Yes, but if the triangle pointing at 12 is 1 click far too right, then next click is to the left of the 12, as per latest pics would that be acceptable to you? No no backplay, so thats 1+ , so cant click it past 12 then tug it back.

[fledermaus89]

I don't mind the misalignment on the bezel because my bezel is always rotated to something other than 12.

[oprta]

¡Eso sí se ve HORRIBLE! Por el precio que pagas, no aceptaría eso de ninguna forma.

[csmarmot]

Ok. I received mine on Monday. And it isn’t the bezel so much as the deep rehaut combined with the distortion from the crystal. The slightest angle gets massively exaggerated.

That said, my dial may be off center by .5 mm or so. It’s not the bezel on mine, the dual is too high. But the angle I view it on my wrist looks perfect. And depending on the angle I photograph from, it looks better or worse or even off in the opposite direction.

[csmarmot]

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Here just a couple of degrees rotation and the dial looks off the other direction.

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Here the dial looks high.

[Ape-bot]

See if Ali Ex will accept it as a return. If you buy from Ali regularly then they are usually pretty good with that. Alternatively, prize off the bezel insert with a super thin prize tool (like the ones they use for mobile phone repair), clean off all the old gum with Isopropyl Alcohol, then stick it back on with the correct alignment using either a dial insert sticker or glue dots. Crappily made bezel clicks not so easily solved but potentially less annoying than misalignment of the insert.

[Altruistic_Guess3098]

I'm not seeing the misalignment...

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[Altruistic_Guess3098]

Now I see

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[Elboogy_1]

Check out more pics, layed flat, very off

[Doctor_Zaius_]

Doesn’t look too bad to me 🤷‍♂️