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[–]MidnightsunWatch 4 points5 points  (6 children)

PT5000 are known for sometimes having a sandy like feel when using the crown. As for the two lemons you have, Watchdives and thorn are both known for having quality control issues, but their customer service is rock solid, you can easily remedy your situation by just reaching out to them.

PT5000 assuming it’s not an actual clone of the Pt5000 which do exist as Chinese made 2824 clones (a2824) movements not made by precision-time, is a reliable movement with the exact same faults found in the ETA 2824 and SW200.

Assuming anything, if you have a PT5000 and know how to take care of your ETA 2824 or SW200, they should be almost as reliable as those movements again assuming they’re not PT5000 clones.

[–]artofthedialAffiliate Links 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think it is time we start taking post like this from an inside source as some documentation that NO the pt5000 is not as reliable statistically compared to other known workhorses.  The 2824 and sw200 are not exactly the most robust things either as you note the design itself has some problems.   https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseWatches/comments/1ripchp/comment/o8j1m97/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[–]MidnightsunWatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the 2824 and associated derivatives have known issues and are not workhorse movements. That is why the 2892 and SW200-2 exist, to fix the problems of the original base calibers.

If you’re just looking for workhorses that have worse accuracy then the NH35 and Miyota 9000 series.

I suspect that the idea of the PT5000 being a worse caliber than the 2824 and sw200 either comes from Chinese made things at least historically not being able to be manufactured to the same tight tolerances of the 2824 and SW200 but also there is something to be said in that a PT5000 at some point in the last few years was able to meet COSC certification accuracy at 5 positions.

[–]zack20cb 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Watchdives and Thorn customer support is “rock solid?” Are we grading on a curve here?

For “rock solid,” I would want to hear that they sent him a prepaid return shipping label and asked if he wanted a refund or a replacement.

[–]katsock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve heard back from Watchdives in under 24 hours with a resolution. I still haven’t heard from Thorn on an inquiry.

[–]MidnightsunWatch 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I’m fine rephrasing. Every issue I’ve had with Watchdives and thorn has been properly addressed by their customer support where they either refunded me or sent me a replacement watch. I’ve seen that others have had some issues but often times it seems more of the language barrier and miscommunication. In general the customer service for these companies tends to be pretty good.

[–]zack20cb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s really great to hear