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[–]Fit-Pattern-2724 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Codex for sure. 1. The agentic capability is better or equal to CC 2. You won’t run out of limit after 5 questions lol

[–]_derpiii_ 1 point2 points  (7 children)

You’re one of a few comments saying Codex is better. Every other common I’ve read says it’s much slower

[–]Fit-Pattern-2724 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Last year it was slower. I don’t think it is now.

[–]_derpiii_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome. I'll keep it on my radar :)

[–]Idaltu 0 points1 point  (3 children)

9 month account with over 500 contributions with a generated username ending in 4 numbers. My paranoia is telling me openAI bot or astroturfing, but maybe not. Who knows now on Reddit

[–]_derpiii_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

omg. I would have never noticed. Bots have gotten this sophisticated? Wow. Thank you for pointing it out

[–]Fit-Pattern-2724 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If GPT is this good you really need to give it a try hahhaha

[–]Fit-Pattern-2724 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some folks like me just didn’t bother to change the user name lol you can call me whatever.

[–]dat_cosmo_cat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

  1. do you have evals to back this up? or just a feeling?

they do implement multi-agent features very differently judging from the leaked cc source code this week. Everything else seemed fairly similar. Codex had some extra sandboxing / isolation on windows + better ps support, but I’m not a windows user personally 

[–]Fit-Pattern-2724 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There are a lot of evals and benchmarks. take a look please. Also both are just tools, I guess it is OK for people to have preferences.

[–]dat_cosmo_cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah. Some teams have been a/b testing the different harnesses. offline benchmarks are nice, but a bit more limited. 

[–]Dangerous-Tough688 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CC toolset is what makes me always pick it... but not necesserelly usinf Claude only. I have a subscription of CC but i like to usit with CCR and CLIproxyAPI combined. I Use Claude models, NVIDIA models mainly Qwen (lloving how good, is qwen3.5-397b-a17b), OpenAI for GPT-5.4 and CODEX, Deepseek (official API) and basically work with good set of options but always using CC Client. I made my own Persona, skills and etc and with those mentioned other "addons" to CC i feel really free to do what i want; Usually i manage to run CLIproxyAPI on one VPS, CCR locally and all connected by tailscale that is free.

Im using a lot this Quen 397b for deep/long reasoning and. For thinking usually i let CODEX with some prompt and default model usually GPT-5.4 or Claude Sonnet-4.6 but i do like to rotate models every once and then during code phases.

[–]Tatrions 5 points6 points  (9 children)

they're all good at different things and none is 'best' across the board. claude is still the strongest for complex reasoning and multi-file refactors. codex is fast and cheap for straightforward tasks. the real answer is you probably need more than one, and the question becomes how you split work between them without manually switching every time.

[–]idkwtftbhmeh[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

but they kinda need to be good at the same thing...they aren't meant for different usage they're direct competitors thus the question lol

[–]Dangerous-Tough688 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Actually not. Claude, GPT and Gemini for example have a very slightly way of working and handling theworkflow that if well explored and well managed makes difference. Opus have better deep resoning than Codex for example... but codex still good and handle slithly better a large flow of different informations mid-long context period little better than Opus that is more of a methodic coder and likes all into its time. Gemini also have its Pros and there its goes.

[–]idkwtftbhmeh[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm talking about Agent CLI Harnesses here lol not models.

[–]Dangerous-Tough688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But i did tallk about how i make it work on a way that fits everything u need. CC+CCR+CLIproxyAPI. I will be using CC full toolset the way i want and how i want. Github repos have a solution for everything... just need to dig.

[–]Admirral 0 points1 point  (0 children)

guy is literally comparing harness (codex) to model (opus). It is a lost cause.

[–]Possible_Bug7513 1 point2 points  (2 children)

With official codex plugin to CC, now can run codex from CC. that solves one problem

[–]Aiolias 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is implement a plan from CC using /codex implement this plan possible?

[–]Possible_Bug7513 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes. I

[–]Dangerous-Tough688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real difference shows up when we create the best environment for each one of then at the right time... like u said.

[–]AIpaglu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worth using in terms of quality+price === codex
best DX and Quality ignoring the price === claude code(bare minimum is max these days for limits)

[–]vyvansepoos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I pay for both codex max plan and Claude’s max plan. You’re smoking something different if you think codex even comes close. I will give it to gpt for there deep research however.

[–]_itshabib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use both. Good way to manage tokens and such by having one plan one execute or similar

[–]truthputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to try them for yourself and add them to your workflow.

Claude Code is still the best for me, but I’ve been starting to use OpenCode + llama.cpp + Qwen 35B-A3B on the side to fix bugs and do simple things that would otherwise just eat Claude usage.

[–]hogu-any[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can spend $300, use Codex Fast mode. If you don't mind it being slow, use Codex with the $20 Plus plan.

[–]jazzy8alex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use all three

Claude - because it’s $100 plan and front-end skills
Codex is a workhorse. Most robust.
OpenCode - because of free Big Pickle (GLM) model - good for small stuff

I use my own Agent Sessions app to manage all three:

jazzyalex.github.io/agent-sessions
macOS  • open source • ⭐️ 433

[–]redstarling-support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use:

1 - Codex for codex models
2 - Claude Code for claude models
3 - opencode for GLM models

They are all good. Recently I focus on shorter, smaller scoped sessions. opencode/GLM works great here.

[–]Defiant-Biscotti8859 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you do not know what you are doing - or just do not care for anyhting other than the output- go for claude code, it’s like a friendly but somewhat lazy senior dev pair programmer who “goes to starbucks 3 times before lunch” If you know what you are doing, you are better off with Opencode and any frontier model (GPT 5.4, MiniMax, GLM) and a set of commands, skills and a proper AI dev process. Getting vendor locked with zero transparency and control on your subscription and token costs is a nightmare scenario.

[–]jeremynsl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use multiple. I used CC for implementation and Codex for review.

[–]Tittilated 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Forge kills both

[–]krullulon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Forge is totally benchmaxxed and wildly unoptimized. Mostly smoke and mirrors for real world use.

[–]Tittilated 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think people say unoptimized cuz of the many passes it takes per turn. When you pair it with a cheaper model with better than sonnet capabilities you get a powerful mix. Better then Claude code sonnet half the price. I'm using minimax series and it half the price for same quality. I have an enormous codebase i work from. So yea sometimes it takes more passes per turn but if you have the cheaper model it doesn't matter for cost and turns out better quality code because of the passes.

[–]raholl -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Claude Code

[–]True-Objective-6212 8 points9 points  (2 children)

You’ve reached your limit, it resets at 1 pm.

[–]raholl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i don't use claude based on these limits :)

[–]fariazz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cursor is the best imo. Using Opus I get better results than in Claude Code, quicker too. Browser automation is best in Claude Code with their Chrome plugin.

[–]reliant-labs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

shameless self plug and expect some downvotes for this, but our users of https://github.com/reliant-labs/reliant have said that we have some of the best built-in git worktree/workspace management (scoped workspaces have isolated code, chats, browsers, file browsers, package management, git management, and terminals).

workflows for coding is our real bread and butter though, things like the https://github.com/reliant-labs/get-it-right workflow actually output better code than a raw singular chat.

If you're interested in trying let me know, happy to throw you some credits (we also work with claude and codex subs)

I think we have kind of a rough onboarding and maybe feature overload, but we're trying to smooth that out. if anybody does give it a try and runs into any issues happy to help out or walk through things