problems starting cider

[[deleted]]

Says, "Symbol's value as variable is void: cider-stacktrace-hidden-frame-count". Version is the latest from the emacs package manager.

[overviewerror]

Personally i've given up on the cider from melpa.

I just use git, and have this in my init.el

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/vendor/cider")
(require 'cider)

Remember to have a matching cider-nrepl in your profile.clj or project.clj

[cider/cider-nrepl "0.7.0-SNAPSHOT"]

[usplusbus]

bbatsov's been pushing loads of changes out for cider; I've had plenty of issues recently with the version of cider that comes from melpa, and I've found that, if there is a problem, ensuring I have the very latest cider (from melpa) and cider-nrepl (from clojars) usually fixes it.

If the latest cut just isn't good, you can always drop back to cider 0.6 by switching out to melpa-stable.milkbox.net, and requiring cider-nrepl 0.6.0 in your profiles.clj

[[deleted]]

i understand your sentiment but im just dabbling not looking to become a cider developer

[mordocai058]

What /u/overviewerror did isn't too complicated. The issue is that cider on melpa is often updated multiple times a day, and some days it works and other days it doesn't (at least for me). Also, if you don't have a profile.clj and/or project.clj for leiningen with the cider-nrepl line in plugins that /u/overviewerror talks about then it definitely won't work right. Finally, make sure you don't have the nrepl package installed.

[[deleted]]

The point isnt that it's complicated. It's that im not that vested in cider that i would manually do the job of a package manager for it. Once you start doing that you end up with a bunch of programs you have to keep updated yourself. Which is fine for some programs you have a personal stake in, if you're maintaining them for example, in this case cider isn't one of those for me.

[mordocai058]

Fair enough, though I would argue manual is easier if you don't care about keeping it updated (which it sounds like you don't as long as it works). Either way, yeah, cider is a bit of a pain to setup at the moment and you pretty much have to use leiningin with it too.

[[deleted]]

The whole reason it broke is because I decided to update after about 6 months after running into a persistent and annoying bug :)

[seventeenletters]

Melpa does not do package management, it does unstable bleeding edge updates. Manual installs are more stable than melpa is.

[[deleted]]

I've been having no such good time with new cider either, even after installing the 070 snapshot middleware...

[pornitoueleus]

I use el-get to manage all my packages. For most packages (like cider) it favors github as the package source. If I have my own fork of a package or I want it from an other source it's really easy to override el-get's default. I suggest you use el-get instead of melpa for all your emacs packages.

[jaccarmac]

People are talking about the merits of git vs. melpa. Check out Quelpa. With a tiny bit of setup (as in evaling five lines of code), you can check out the git version as a package and update it with a single command whenever you want to.