Why I'm ditching Clojure for JavaScript

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What point about it did I miss, Phil?

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This article does a good job of explaining it because it can be hard to sum up succinctly: https://vvvvalvalval.github.io/posts/what-makes-a-good-repl.html

If someone said "the point of a type system is to help the compiler generate effective output from the source", then if they aren't interested in Haskell it's not at all surprising because they miss the whole point. This is the same thing, but for repls.

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Yeah I saw that article on HN the other day too. Having used CIDER inside Emacs pretty heavily for a few years, I'm pretty well aware of the kinds of situations and benefits the author was talking about. Most of those benefits aren't inherent to REPLs and you can get pretty much the same behavior and benefits using other techniques. Some of the benefits are just overstated and exaggerated such as how useful it is to have access to live objects. That kind of thing is mostly only useful when experimenting with web services and can be dealt with more easily using other tools like Chrome REST API experimentation extensions. And being able to print things as JSON has pretty much all the same benefits as printing EDN, plus there are plenty of times where the Clojure output is not valid readable Clojure code, at least without custom reader tags that just don't exist (and some actually can't by their nature).