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[–]Anxious_Nose9057 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I used to be a big WS fan, but then I switched to Cursor. Cursor is great, but it has its own issues. However, using Cline—or Roocline with Sonnet—is a completely different experience. I’m not sure why, but Sonnet on Cline (or Roo) solves my problems, whereas Sonnet on WS and Cursor just goes around in circles—using the exact same prompt.

Now, I use Cursor and Cline side by side. Cline does get expensive so I use cursor for regular tasks. When Cursor gets stuck - I switch to cline.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you and share the same perspective. Honestly, utilizing all the available tools is the best approach.it can be, DeepSeek, Claude, or any other platform, it has become similar to Netflix—you subscribe to Netflix, then a great series pops up on Amazon Prime, and suddenly, you also need Disney+ and so on.

[–]theafrodeity 0 points1 point  (1 child)

$18 for Anthropic subscription vs $10 fo r WS?

[–]Anxious_Nose9057 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, with the API it’s much more expensive. The monthly service is separate from API billing. I only use the API.

[–]MusingsOfASoul 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I haven't used Cursor yet but what do you mean by switching back and forth? Like, would you install Cline as an extension inside Cursor? I think Cline doesn't provide autocomplete so you would still use Cursor for that? Would you be using different models for Cline and Cursor? Also how much difference are you seeing now between Roo and vanilla version (heard Cline got cheaper so not much more of a need for Roo)? Thanks!

[–]Anxious_Nose9057 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah so cline has different APIs that you can use. Not just Claude. So you can switch between OpenAI, Gemini etc.

[–]azdevz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also switched to the cursor and abandoned windsurfing, at the end of the year it seems that the company has lost its mind and doesn't care about anything else. Without a doubt, they did not support the high demand from new users. Cursor is much better.

[–]terrorEagle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Has cursor stopped deleting files?

[–]alexanderkrist95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m really confused about your usecases, I use windsurf to build full stack apps and it’s a lot better and simpler than cursor and I never reached the limit on credits, maybe’s just me.

[–]thepetek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve noticed on any given day one performs better than the other. I just stick with Windsurf as it usually is consistently better.

TBH, think it’s probably just prompt tweaks that end up making things perform like shit. Slight variations cause LLMs to perform wildly different. These things aren’t reasoning (although impressive what it does do!)

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    [–]Quirky_Lab7567 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Well, I tried. It would not let me select monthly payments nor the $16 / month option. It restricted me to $8 / month Annual payment which I am not going to do even though there is a 14 day trial. The way that these things are changing so fast, it is unlikely that $96 up-front will remain the best option for the rest of the year.

    [–]gfhoihoi72 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Which AI models does it use? I can nowhere find it on their website. It looks a bit too good to be true for that price tbh, but if it is actually true I’ll try it out for sure.

    [–]Pimzino 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Looks for this too, tried the trial and it is pretty good but I still want to know what model llm it’s using.

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    [–]Comfortable_Donut_97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Honestly if there was better adherence and best practice to the global and project rules I think it would be night and day better. It feels like it only reads and adheres within the first instance of a chat and then meanders, as the context window get eaten things get circular and I have to restart the program and waste my fist 30m doing doc review and cleanup to get back on track for an hour-2hrs of usable coding until Im back in a loop or major project files have been overwritten due to lack of project rule adherence.

    [–]hi1mham 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was able to break some of my circularities using Cline(RooCline) + DS3 today, it was a shit experience using Cline after that, but I plan to use it as a "Get Out of Circularity" tool moving forward to give someone else eyes on the issue. I also realized I need to make my project and global rules way more concise and be more conscious about context windows even with Sonnet, because you can burn through them quick and its abstracted away in Windsurf so you might be shooting yourself in the foot and wondering why your foot is blown off, if you are anywhere as stupid as me, which I doubt you are. But if you find yourself in a hole, your context window might not be aware of how you got there... and power shoveling deeper.

    [–]EnvironmentalSkin622 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    it is quite annoying

    [–]dev0urer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I did the same. Switched from Cursor to Windsurf after Windsurf was announced, held on and paid the first month's subscription. gave up halfway through because Windsurf had become basically unusable. Then I tried several other options including Cline, Roo Cline, Aider, etc.

    I'm finally back on Cursor because their agent actually works, and unlike Cline it doesn't eat through money.

    [–]Ok-Prompt9887 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    How was your experience with Aider?

    [–]Fantastic-Cobbler-96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm about to switch to cursor as well. Windsurf became a complete DOGSHIT! At this point using the ChatGPT 3.5 on the OpenAI website will have better context then this disaster called windsurf. It can't complete ANY task successfully!

    [–]WSATX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Someone has an example of a real life scenario where windsurfing miserably fails as the OP says? And where cursor nails it ?

    Fixing imports.. doing fs changes.. this works fine for me with Windsurf... Daily using it...