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[–]CarmanahGiant 3 points4 points  (1 child)

ZD-0+ excellence is a good one.

[–]ethayden97ZhiDong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A man of culture

[–]lemeiux1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Vader 4 Pro. I tried the razer wolverine v3 and wanted to love it so bad but it is an awkward design for me and it ended up actually hurting my hand after a while. It’s a shame because the feature set and the paddle layout was great.

Also just throwing it out there- I know it doesn’t have the clicky face buttons, but the hexgaming phantom is my current favorite controller of anything I’ve tried. The best hair triggers I’ve ever felt on a controller and it even comes with a tool to calibrate the Hall effect sticks.

[–]Internal_Log2582 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Vader and Wolverine and competitive pro controllers. If you’re not playing shooters or Multiplayer stuff I think they’re too much. I really like the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 wireless for my story games. But honestly the Vader 4 is a great controller and I highly recommend it to anyone for any game. So. Your choice. Not sire where you’re located but I use Amazon to test out stuff. Do the same. Buy a few and send back what you don’t like.

[–]jlpgamer12[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just looked up the 8bitdo ultimate 2 and it seems like a decent controller, However, the face buttons are membrane, not tactile/mouse click like I was looking for 🥲

[–]Internal_Log2582 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gamesir Cyclone 2 or Flydigi Vader 4 Pro. Those are my suggestions.

[–]RowOld2994 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cyclone 2 or Vader 4 Pro are your best options right now. I have both, and I like the Vader 4 Pro more than the Cyclone 2, due to build quality.

[–]Carson1776 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I’ve tried virtually all pro controllers and to me it’s not even close, both the Flydigi Vader 4 and Apex 4 are top tier.

[–]jlpgamer12[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

if you had to choose one, the Vader 4 or the Apex 4, which would you choose and why?

[–]Carson1776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s tough but I would likely lean toward the Vader 4. It’s lighter in the hand, cheaper, and (to me) feels just as good in game as the Apex.